RayNAustin wrote:frankcal20 wrote:SkinsJock wrote:There is NO WAY that this franchise goes into next season without a future great QB getting ready to play QB
I doubt that we have a QB named Beck or Grossman on the roster next season
many upgrades still needed but we're not far off except perhaps with O line
There's only one guy who is projected to be "Great" in the draft and that's Luck. If you don't get him, then you're getting a projected starter and middle of the road projected player. Similar to what Jason Campbell was.
If you're sitting at say #5 pick, the top 2 QBs are gone and the next guy is rated a 2nd round pick, you don't grab a guy just to grab a guy. You have to be flexible. Maybe you trade down. Maybe you draft another player at a position of need. There are enough holes on this team that you can easily find a player in the 1st round who will project as an upgrade to what we currently have.
I'm 1st in line to say we need a QB but I'm not going to give up the farm or overpay just to say you got a QB. You have to get it right in the 1st round and do everything in your power to nail that pick.
Frank, that's why you give up the farm to make a deal with the Colts, if they are willing to deal, which they may not be, unless you make it an offer nobody could refuse.
Normally, I'm totally against the philosophy of going "all in" for an individual player, but this is a unique situation. Luck has that type of talent that only comes around once every decade or two, and though it's generally a crap shoot with top pick QBs, he's probably as sure a thing as is possible without a crystal ball ... and particularly with QBs, you anticipate getting 14 or more years out of that player, while other positions, like RB can expect barely half of that career longevity. This makes it worth a huge investment if you think you have a sure thing.
The unique situation is that Luck is one of those rare ones who is expected to be able to go in and start right away, day one, similar to how Newton did this year, and he's better than Newton. While the Colts just signed Peyton to the largest contract of any player playing, and as long as Peyton's health doesn't prevent him from playing for the next 3-4 years, they may be persuaded to give up the pick with the right incentives ... since it will be extremely costly to pay what Luck will command to be a backup to manning for the next 3 or more years, and also give up the goodies they could get in a trade. It's really about Peyton's health and what the Colts can expect from him for the next few seasons ... if he can play, he will be the one playing.
While it's smart to recoil from the idea of "giving up the farm" in most cases, this case is different. A farm does you no good without the big tractor, and Luck is that tractor that the Redskins desperately need, and can solidify that position which has been the most unstable position of need for the Redskins for as far as the eye can see backward.
One has to consider the question ... what if you could go back in time ... what would you give up to sign Peyton Manning for the next 14 years? Would two or three 1st rounders be too much? Hell no ....look what the Redskins have accomplished with their 1st round picks .... Campbell and Rogers were 2 1st rounders .... would you trade Campbell and Rogers and next year's 1st for Luck? If you had a brain the answer is .... in a New York city second.
So that's my point .... you go to Indy and tell them we want that pick, and we're willing to engage a little "Temporary Insanity" to get it. What do you want? Whatever their answer is, you say OKAY. You want 3 one's ? Trade one of our studs (whomever) for someone's 2012 1st rounder ... package that with this year's 1, and our #1 for 2013, and then learn how to effectively utilize the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds for players you need for the next two years.
At the end of the day, it will be worth it .... when the Redskins will enjoy having a Peyton Manning type of player chewing up the Cowboys, Giants and Eagles for the next dozen years.
