Grossman v. Beck

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:52 pm

Sure, Grossman wasn't all that....but this team looks horrible under Beck. Grossman might throw a pick or two here and there but at least this team won under Grossman.

This team looks horrible under Beck.

I WANT GROSSMAN BACK!!!!

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:04 pm

Neither

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:11 pm

Beck is scared, he's a chump. I dont like that. If I had to pick, I'd go with Grossman.

Beck is supposed to be great at the boot, it hasn't materialized.

skinpride1 · Post by **skinpride1** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:22 pm

They both suck. End of Story.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:26 pm

The offense isn't clicking. You guys are not factoring in all the issues we have right now on the team. I'm sorry but the QB position is not the only problem. The line isn't keeping the QB clean. There's little to no running game. The WRs can't stop dropping the ball. This is a perfect example of a team in transformation. We're a rebuilding team. Don't crucify a place holder b/c he's not the problem. The issue is the previous regime who screwed this team on ever chance they could. Unfortunately
, they thought they were making it better.

ATX_Skins · Post by **ATX_Skins** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:27 pm

Grossman although hot and cold at least has the ability to win

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:39 pm

frankcal20 wrote:The offense isn't clicking. You guys are not factoring in all the issues we have right now on the team. I'm sorry but the QB position is not the only problem. The line isn't keeping the QB clean. There's little to no running game. The WRs can't stop dropping the ball. This is a perfect example of a team in transformation. We're a rebuilding team. Don't crucify a place holder b/c he's not the problem. The issue is the previous regime who screwed this team on ever chance they could. Unfortunately
, they thought they were making it better.

Sadly this thread won't end with ur post.

skinpride1 · Post by **skinpride1** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:40 pm

frankcal20 wrote:The offense isn't clicking. You guys are not factoring in all the issues we have right now on the team. I'm sorry but the QB position is not the only problem. The line isn't keeping the QB clean. There's little to no running game. The WRs can't stop dropping the ball. This is a perfect example of a team in transformation. We're a rebuilding team. Don't crucify a place holder b/c he's not the problem. The issue is the previous regime who screwed this team on ever chance they could. Unfortunately
, they thought they were making it better.

Who's in charge of making sure they don't drop passes and fumble.

Let me guess the previous regime.

All goes back to how hard this team is really being coached. Just saying it makes me wonder.

RedskinjXd · Post by **RedskinjXd** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:41 pm

skins say they will stay with beck for next week. funny... cause when grossmans status was in doubt.... it was "lets look at the game film first". hmmm. guess no game film needed for beck.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:42 pm

It's life. Drops happen. I'm sorry if you expect perfection but it's not going to happen and what you try to do is hope that one guy doesn't have it on one day. The problem is we've had several guys who didn't have it. I'm not saying it's luck but the one thing you can say is this team is being coached up. That's very clear but this team is very young.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:45 pm

skinpride1 wrote:Who's in charge of making sure they don't drop passes and fumble.

Let me guess the previous regime.

All goes back to how hard this team is really being coached. Just saying it makes me wonder.

LOLOLOL

skinpride1 · Post by **skinpride1** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:50 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
skinpride1 wrote:Who's in charge of making sure they don't drop passes and fumble.

Let me guess the previous regime.

All goes back to how hard this team is really being coached. Just saying it makes me wonder.

LOLOLOL

Don't laugh ....Forgot what Gibbs would do if players started having trouble fumbling and holding on to the ball.

You Laugh like it's a joke but coaching sometimes comes down to the basics.

So do you remember what Gibbs done for that issue and he done it in GibbsII run also???

I don't think it's funny.

Shows a poorly coached team.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:57 pm

YOu also have to understand that it's a totally different NFL. You can only coach a team in full pads twice a SEASON. That never happened in Gibbs 1.0 or 2.0. I'm sorry but this is ran like a pussified (cat-like) lingerie football league. They may even work harder. I'm sorry but can't hold the coach to that.

skinpride1 · Post by **skinpride1** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:07 pm

frankcal20 wrote:YOu also have to understand that it's a totally different NFL. You can only coach a team in full pads twice a SEASON. That never happened in Gibbs 1.0 or 2.0. I'm sorry but this is ran like a pussified (cat-like) lingerie football league. They may even work harder. I'm sorry but can't hold the coach to that.

Ok but that theory is flawed because every team in the NFL would be playing like monkey DO-DO.

Can't hold the coach to that come on seriously???

HarleyHog · Post by **HarleyHog** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:16 pm

The CBA was too long coming, depriving everyone of much needed time working together. The rules limiting practices have been killing us. Our limited depth has been exacerbated by the lack of opportunities for our backups to take reps. Since they mostly are not studs, they can't make up for other shortcomings, like lack of reps and game experience. I think we should stick with Beck, simply because Rex looked bad even winning. Beck still has upside, we've seen a glimmer here and there, while Rex seemed determined to hold onto his historical pattern. Neither is looking like a solution going down the road, but is at least like to give the Beckster a chance to finally win one. Miami might be his best shot.

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:17 pm

At this point it really doesn't matter, IMO. It's like debating which car has a better chance to win a NASCAR race, my '97 Civic or your '97 Corolla. I mean . . . sure, one of us is technically right and the other wrong, but . . .

skinpride1 · Post by **skinpride1** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:20 pm

skinpride1 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
skinpride1 wrote:Who's in charge of making sure they don't drop passes and fumble.

Let me guess the previous regime.

All goes back to how hard this team is really being coached. Just saying it makes me wonder.

LOLOLOL

Don't laugh ....Forgot what Gibbs would do if players started having trouble fumbling and holding on to the ball.

You Laugh like it's a joke but coaching sometimes comes down to the basics.

So do you remember what Gibbs done for that issue and he done it in GibbsII run also???

I don't think it's funny.

Shows a poorly coached team.

No one answered doesn't surpise me any. Cause they don't know.

SprintRightOption · Post by **SprintRightOption** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:24 pm

I agree that both quarterbacks are not good enough.

Did I not call that they would dink and dunk all day long at the start of the game thread?

Beck didn't want to get sacked so he played scared and got rid of the ball as fast as he could. He also had no touch on the ball and threw the one yard pass like the receiver was 30 yards down field and that was part of the missed or dropped passes. Beck has a serious problem with the pressure of being the starter. He can't handle it. Anybody remember Bubby Brister? He played for the Steelers and then was John Elway's back-up in the two Super Bowl Wins. He was a great back-up. He played as well as the starter when he came in when Elway was Injured for a game or two. When Elway Retired Brister was terrible with the same players as a starter. Like baseball, Some pitchers are great at short relief and some are great at being starters. Beck is not a starter.

I would put Grossman back in for a few games and if he plays bad put Beck back in. Nothing to lose at this point.

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:24 pm

skinpride1 wrote:
skinpride1 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
skinpride1 wrote:Who's in charge of making sure they don't drop passes and fumble.

Let me guess the previous regime.

All goes back to how hard this team is really being coached. Just saying it makes me wonder.

LOLOLOL

Don't laugh ....Forgot what Gibbs would do if players started having trouble fumbling and holding on to the ball.

You Laugh like it's a joke but coaching sometimes comes down to the basics.

So do you remember what Gibbs done for that issue and he done it in GibbsII run also???

I don't think it's funny.

Shows a poorly coached team.

No one answered doesn't surpise me any. Cause they don't know.

I didn't answer because what you wrote wasn't clear at all. Just saying a bunch of things and then concluding "must be bad coaching" doesn't really convince me of anything.

HarleyHog · Post by **HarleyHog** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:32 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:
skinpride1 wrote:
skinpride1 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
skinpride1 wrote:Who's in charge of making sure they don't drop passes and fumble.

Let me guess the previous regime.

All goes back to how hard this team is really being coached. Just saying it makes me wonder.

LOLOLOL

Don't laugh ....Forgot what Gibbs would do if players started having trouble fumbling and holding on to the ball.

You Laugh like it's a joke but coaching sometimes comes down to the basics.

So do you remember what Gibbs done for that issue and he done it in GibbsII run also???

I don't think it's funny.

Shows a poorly coached team.

No one answered doesn't surpise me any. Cause they don't know.

I didn't answer because what you wrote wasn't clear at all. Just saying a bunch of things and then concluding "must be bad coaching" doesn't really convince me of anything.

+1

(I think,maybe, he means bench the offending recievers, though that would make it hard to put anyone on the field)

HarleyHog · Post by **HarleyHog** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:33 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:
skinpride1 wrote:
skinpride1 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
skinpride1 wrote:Who's in charge of making sure they don't drop passes and fumble.

Let me guess the previous regime.

All goes back to how hard this team is really being coached. Just saying it makes me wonder.

LOLOLOL

Don't laugh ....Forgot what Gibbs would do if players started having trouble fumbling and holding on to the ball.

You Laugh like it's a joke but coaching sometimes comes down to the basics.

So do you remember what Gibbs done for that issue and he done it in GibbsII run also???

I don't think it's funny.

Shows a poorly coached team.

No one answered doesn't surpise me any. Cause they don't know.

I didn't answer because what you wrote wasn't clear at all. Just saying a bunch of things and then concluding "must be bad coaching" doesn't really convince me of anything.

+1

(I think,maybe, he means bench the offending recievers, though that would make it hard to put anyone on the field)

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:56 pm

We stink. Point blank.

die cowboys die · Post by **die cowboys die** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:04 pm

i never thought i'd say this about anyone but i think Beck is even worse than Br*nell. there were a lot of open guys today, that's the good news. but he just never sees them. we'll be one of those teams that suddenly/magically dramatically improve overnight if the QB we draft turns out to be any good and can find those guys and get the ball there.

i know he didn't have much help with all the drops and stuff. but there were so many plays he had a chance and just didn't even find the open guy. with a good QB, even with the other miscues, we still win that game by 3 touchdowns. i'm serious. the 49ers proved themselves to be astonishingly mediocre to me. not impressive in the slightest. the only reason they had any success is because on both sides of the ball, their new coach has apparently taught them how to subtly hold the back of everyone's jersey without extending the arm, and get away with it on every single play the entire game. and i think they got flagged once. unbelievable.

skinpride1 · Post by **skinpride1** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:27 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:
skinpride1 wrote:
skinpride1 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
skinpride1 wrote:Who's in charge of making sure they don't drop passes and fumble.

Let me guess the previous regime.

All goes back to how hard this team is really being coached. Just saying it makes me wonder.

LOLOLOL

Don't laugh ....Forgot what Gibbs would do if players started having trouble fumbling and holding on to the ball.

You Laugh like it's a joke but coaching sometimes comes down to the basics.

So do you remember what Gibbs done for that issue and he done it in GibbsII run also???

I don't think it's funny.

Shows a poorly coached team.

No one answered doesn't surpise me any. Cause they don't know.

I didn't answer because what you wrote wasn't clear at all. Just saying a bunch of things and then concluding "must be bad coaching" doesn't really convince me of anything.

Sorry but who really cares about convincing you of anything.

The score of the last two games says it all anyway.

The question was pretty straight foward ans simple anyway.

DUH HUH ..................

What did Gibbs do when the players started Fumbling and putting the Ball on the ground????

Come on really??? That was confusing to you. Think i will have another slice of pizza on that one.

:roll:

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:40 pm

Even if Beck were a rookie, he'd still be behind Newton, Ponder, Gabbert as far as productivity goes. Smh