Redskins' offensive depth chart still in flux

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:49 am

Torrain looked great against last years terrible line. Hightower had the luxury (and took extreme advantage of) a revamped and retooled o-line. I'm very curious and excited to see what a hard running TOrrain can do with this new o-line. He's going to punish some defenders on the 2nd level. I'm hoping that he can stay healthy and if he can for a large portion of the season and with splitting carries with Tim... I think we'll have a good offense. I envision defense cheating up to stop the run at all costs and getting gased with quick timely throws like we saw against Pitt. PA to suck the defense in, bootlegs to help a still maturing o-line and to give Moss, Armstrong, Davis time to get down field, FB/RB/COoley in the flats as a check down.

sidebar: sadly PA is broken in Madden =/ lol

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:41 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Torrain looked great against last years terrible line. Hightower had the luxury (and took extreme advantage of) a revamped and retooled o-line. I'm very curious and excited to see what a hard running TOrrain can do with this new o-line. He's going to punish some defenders on the 2nd level.

Excellent point! I heard Doc Walker saying that Torain clearly showed how much it hurt for him to miss the Steeler game. I think that he is still one of Shanny's guys. I am going to drop the thinking that he might might be traded to allow one of the younger guys to step up. I still believe that there is no way he gets cut out right. Like you, I look forward to him punishing defenders like he did that Philly safety in the first Philly game last year.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:05 pm

Redskins roster--the probables

Rich Tandler:

Yesterday, we looked at the players who are locks to make the Redskins’ 53-man roster. Today we look at the 12 players who are very likely to make the final cut but who could get knocked off of the final roster by some realistic if unlikely scenarios. Here is a look at those players and why they may be leaning slightly towards the roster bubble.

If you add these 12 players to the 33 locks, it appears that 45 roster spots are virtually secured. With the roster at 88, including the two players on the PUP list and not counting RB James Davis, who is expected to be released after leaving camp without permission on Monday, that means that means that you have 43 players competing for eight jobs.

Tomorrow we’ll start making the first projection at a 53-man roster.

RB Roy Helu—Either Helu or fellow rookie Evan Royster will get the third running back job. Helu has looked better in practice but Royster had a pretty good game against the Steelers. Helu still is the favorite but not yet a lock.

FB’s Keiland Williams, Darrel Young—It seems likely that the Redskins will go with both of these players on the roster. However, if they get into a numbers crunch and decide to keep just one fullback, one or the other could go.

http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandle ... ables.html

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:07 pm

The Redskins' roster locks

Rich Tandler:

In the time between now and Sept. 3, many players on the Redskins roster will be fighting for roster spots. They are renting apartments, hoping that they can be one of the final 53.

Some players have no such issues. They are locks to make the roster due to factors such as skill, salary, draft position, and other factors. By my count there are 33 such players on the Redskins. That means that, in essence, the remaining 56 players (as of Tuesday morning) are competing for 20 roster spots.

Offense

QB’s Rex Grossman and John Beck—The two are 1-A and 1-B at quarterback, not necessarily in that order.

WR’s Anthony Armstrong, Jabar Gaffney, Leonard Hankerson, and Santana Moss—Gaffney and Moss will be the starters, Armstrong will be the first off the bench and Hankerson will be given at least this season to develop. The organization was aware of his issues dropping the ball in Miami when he was drafted in the third round and he will get time to work those issues out.

TE’s Chris Cooley, Logan Paulsen, Fred Davis—There is depth at this position and they will all stay put.

RB’s Tim Hightower and Ryan Torain—Torain may end up in injured reserve but he will not be released. Hightower has been one of the stars of training camp so far.

OL Jammal Brown, Kory Lichtensteiger, Chris Chester, Will Montgomery, Trent Williams, Sean Locklear, Artis Hicks—The five starters are set and Locklear gives them the quality backup tackle they were missing last year and Hicks’ versatility ensures that he will stick around.

http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandle ... locks.html

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:59 am

I agree with Tandler that Torain will not be released.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:07 am

I notice that Tandler lest Selvish Capers off the list. He looked horrible at guard last Friday. I don't think he even makes the PS this year.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:47 am

no worries

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:54 am

SkinsJock wrote:maybe we need a defensive thread as well?

Oops! Looks like I failed to remember the word "offensive". Let me see what I can do.

Done! Thanks SkinsJock.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:56 am

Ryan O’Halloran
Redskins Insider
CSNwashington.com

OFFENSE Projections:

QB (3): John Beck, Rex Grossman and Kellen Clemens.
Analysis: No surprises here, and the only thing left is the order they’ll be put on the depth chart. How they’re listed now is how they’ll probably start the season. If Beck does start Week 1, what a wild trip – he wasn’t even on the team when camp started last year, didn’t take a regular-season snap and, boom, now he could get a chance to be The Guy.

RB (4): Tim Hightower, Ryan Torain, Darrel Young and Roy Helu.
Analysis: Keeping Torain wouldn’t be my decision, but it will probably be Mike Shanahan’s decision – Torain been injury-hampered for years and some say took a little bit longer than necessary to return from a hamstring problem last year. But Shanahan sees something in Torain … when healthy. Young has unseated Mike Sellers at fullback, but in a close call, I’ll say the Redskins use Sellers as a combo tight end/fullback, meaning Kelland Williams is on the outside. Helu gets the edge over fellow draft pick Evan Royster.

TE (4): Chris Cooley, Fred Davis, Logan Paulsen and Mike Sellers.
Analysis: For everybody who has Sellers being jettisoned, consider a couple of factors (and, of course, I could be totally wrong). 1. Cooley’s health. Even if he is ready for the opener, his playing time may be limited, and the Redskins may want to keep him off the field in goal-line situations with three tight ends. 2. Sellers on special teams. He is still with some of the top groups. 3. The respect factor. When Casey Rabach and Phillip Daniels were released, Shanahan said it was out of admiration for their efforts, and Sellers deserves in the same category. 4. Back to fullback. Sellers will play fullback in the second half Thursday night.

WR (6): Santana Moss, Jabar Gaffney, Anthony Armstrong, Terrence Austin, Donte’ Stallworth and Leonard Hankerson. Injured reserve – Brandon Banks.
Analysis: When I asked Moss if this was the deepest receiver group he’s seen in camp since joining the Redskins in 2005, he said it was – and he’s right. Niles Paul will be a good player, and the Redskins should hope like heck that he clears waivers if they cut him. The same goes for Banks, whose balky knee has put his status in doubt (I’d IR him and give him time to recover fully). Hankerson hasn’t been one of the team’s top six receivers, but as a third-round pick, some team would claim him because of his size and big hands. I didn’t have Austin on my initial roster before camp because of the numbers game, but he has flashed enough on offense and special teams to merit a roster spot.

OL (9): Trent Williams, Kory Lichtensteiger, Will Montgomery, Chris Chester, Jammal Brown, Sean Locklear, Artis Hicks, Erik Cook and Maurice Hurt.
Analysis: No real surprises here. The starting five has remained the same since Brown and Chester were allowed to start practicing three weeks ago. Among the reserves, Locklear is a no-brainer because he has 78 NFL starts and can play either tackle spot. The same goes for Hicks at guard, and if disaster strikes, he has experience at tackle. Cook (plays center) and Hurt (developmental draft pick) round out the group.

http://www.csnwashington.com/08/24/11/O ... eedID=5559