Skins Vs. Colts -- Preseason Game Thread

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:51 pm

Countertrey wrote:Perhaps you could share with those of us stuck with the Colts feed?

Even the back ups are getting after it. Draughn running hard. Several of the defenders meeting at the QB.

He can see the enthusiasm in the players.

Burgundy&Wha? · Post by **Burgundy&Wha?** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:51 pm

Countertrey wrote:Perhaps you could share with those of us stuck with the Colts feed?

He's talking about SHanahan bringing in guys who break down the doors to the meetings rooms, the film rooms. Good work ethics. Ditching Haynesworths or McNabbs. Setting a new level of expectations. Bringing in young, hungry players rather than this being a place where players come to cash in at the end of their careers.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:52 pm

Victory Formation! Turn out the lights!

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:54 pm

Burgundy&Wha? wrote:
Countertrey wrote:Perhaps you could share with those of us stuck with the Colts feed?

He's talking about SHanahan bringing in guys who break down the doors to the meetings rooms, the film rooms. Good work ethics. Ditching Haynesworths or McNabbs. Setting a new level of expectations. Bringing in young, hungry players rather than this being a place where players come to cash in at the end of their careers.

I LIKE

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:54 pm

Thanks, guys... It is clearly a different culture.

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:55 pm

GOT EM!!

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:55 pm

Beck says it felt good, but it would have been nice to get into the end zone a few more times and then he mouthed - that last bit was for you, DCD. Just joshing DCD, but the fact that Beck mentioned about not getting into the End Zone says that the Skins are aware of what you saw and will be working on it - maybe that is why they haven't cut Kelly yet - he is in the plans to fix that - Get healthy Kelly.

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:57 pm

Hey Vet, we always told the bandwagoneers to have patience didn't we buddy? :celebrate:

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:59 pm

Red_One43 wrote:Beck says it felt good, but it would have been nice to get into the end zone a few more times and then he mouthed - that last bit was for you, DCD. Just joshing DCD, but the fact that Beck mentioned about not getting into the End Zone says that the Skins are aware of what you saw and will be working on it - maybe that is why they haven't cut Kelly yet - he is in the plans to fix that - Get healthy Kelly.

Good...but sadly, I don't think Kelly has anything to do with this point. He'll be cut, imo.....

Burgundy&Wha? · Post by **Burgundy&Wha?** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:59 pm

I don't see where Kelly fits. We'll likely keep six WR's. Certainly Moss, Gafney, & Stallworth. And then?

Niles Paul looks good.
Hankerson has promise.
Terrence Austin?
Brandon Banks?

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:01 pm

Burgundy&Wha? wrote:I don't see where Kelly fits. We'll likely keep six WR's. Certainly Moss, Gafney, & Stallworth. And then?

Niles Paul looks good.
Hankerson has promise.
Terrence Austin?
Brandon Banks?

Keep everybody. :lol:

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:02 pm

langleyparkjoe wrote:
Burgundy&Wha? wrote:I don't see where Kelly fits. We'll likely keep six WR's. Certainly Moss, Gafney, & Stallworth. And then?

Niles Paul looks good.
Hankerson has promise.
Terrence Austin?
Brandon Banks?

Keep everybody.

.. and cut kelly

Burgundy&Wha? · Post by **Burgundy&Wha?** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:03 pm

John Beck 101 QB Rating.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:06 pm

langleyparkjoe wrote:
Burgundy&Wha? wrote:I don't see where Kelly fits. We'll likely keep six WR's. Certainly Moss, Gafney, & Stallworth. And then?

Niles Paul looks good.
Hankerson has promise.
Terrence Austin?
Brandon Banks?

Keep everybody.

+1

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:08 pm

tribeofjudah wrote:
Red_One43 wrote:Beck says it felt good, but it would have been nice to get into the end zone a few more times and then he mouthed - that last bit was for you, DCD. Just joshing DCD, but the fact that Beck mentioned about not getting into the End Zone says that the Skins are aware of what you saw and will be working on it - maybe that is why they haven't cut Kelly yet - he is in the plans to fix that - Get healthy Kelly.

Good...but sadly, I don't think Kelly has anything to do with this point. He'll be cut, imo.....

Looks like it, but next week is the "Dress Rehearsal" preseason game - What if Kelly makes some Red Zone TD grabs - It ain't over until the Turk Sings "Knock, Knock Knocking on the Door."

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:16 pm

OK Red - let's say we keep Kelly - who do you cut?

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:31 pm

SkinsJock wrote:OK Red - let's say we keep Kelly - who do you cut?

Rigt now - nobody.

You guys have to remember, Shanny knows what he is doing. He is holding on to Kelly for a reason. Next week is the perfect game to see that reason. Let's wait and watch the game.

For predictions - I am sticking with my six on the "Who is back" thread - right now except for one change - Austin for Stallworth. My six doesn't include Kelly. I want to see Kelly make it and be that red zone threat, but the probability of that happening is not good. So I am not going there with a prediction.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:42 pm

That's cool - I just see a lot of good things happening with all the WRs and IMO the clock has run out on Kelly

hope he can help some franchise - he's got a lot to offer - just NOT here

this guy could be V good but I don't see it happening in B&G

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:20 am

die cowboys die wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
die cowboys die wrote:Pathetic. We continue our tradition of being abysmal in the red zone. I couldn't care less how many yards we have. Yards don't equal points. You have to score touchdowns. We should be blowing them out by now. But instead we let opponents hang around even when we're dominating the game, and they end up coming back and we blow it in the end.

If nothing else, you are entertaining, my friend.

Tell me how anything I said wasn't the absolute truth.

I don't have to go any further than your first word. In no way can any part of our performance last night be described as "pathetic," touchdowns or no touchdowns.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:23 am

langleyparkjoe wrote:Hey Vet, we always told the bandwagoneers to have patience didn't we buddy?

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:22 pm

Tell it like it is Rich.

Redskins red zone woes not the 'same old story'

The Redskins scored one touchdown in four possessions in the red zone against the Colts last night. This came on the heels getting one touchdown on five trips inside the Steelers 20 a week ago.

This had many fans on Twitter and elsewhere saying that the Redskins’ inability to score touchdowns from close in was “the same old story,” implying that it was the continuation of a pattern that has been around for a while.

It sounded good, but it’s not true. The Redskins actually have been fairly competent at turning red zone opportunities into touchdowns over the past two years.

In 2010, Mike Shanahan’s first year with the Redskins, the team scored touchdowns on 22 of 43 trips inside the other team’s 20. Their conversion percentage of 51.2 percent was just below the NFL average of 52.7 percent. That ranked a middling 19th in the league.

The year before, under Jim Zorn, the team was even better in the red zone. They ranked in the top 10, as their red zone conversion rate of 56.5 percent was the seventh-best in the NFL.

It is almost certain that the Redskins will not stay stuck at their current conversion rate of 22.2 percent. The two worst red zone teams in the league last year, the Panthers and Rams, managed to punch it into the end zone on over 30 percent of their opportunities.

One other note—a quick glance suggests that there does not appear to be a strong correlation between having an efficient red zone game and winning. The Ravens, Bears, Saints, Jets, and Steelers all made the playoffs despite having a worse red zone conversion rate than the Redskins did last year. Perhaps piling up lots of red zone opportunities and keeping your opponents from moving deep into your territory are more important factors.

http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandle ... story.html

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:27 pm

For those of us who noticed that Trent was not playing well:

Trent Williams is still a work in progress—The Redskins’ left tackle made a powerful block to help spring Tim Hightower on a 58-yard run on the second play from scrimmage. He also displayed horrid form on a two attempted blocks that led to sacks. He does appear to be in better shape this year and he says that he is taking the game more seriously. But his form still occasionally reverts to that of his days at Oklahoma, when he could ignore fundamentals because he could just physically overpower his opponents. If he eliminates those moments, he will be a perennial Pro Bowl performer. If not, he’ll be just OK.

* On the Redskins’ second drive, the offense went empty backfield (four receivers, one tight end), leaving left tackle Trent Williams one-on-one against the Colts’ Dwight Freeney. At the snap, Freeney’s bull rush put Williams on his heels and blew up the play.

Big Trent had a tough half. In addition to that play, he was turn-stiled by third-string end John Chick late in the second quarter. Beck had no chance and was sacked quickly. Williams also had a penalty in the last minute of the half.

http://www.csnwashington.com/08/20/11/T ... eedID=6355

http://www.csnwashington.com/08/19/11/I ... eedID=6355

Kilmer72 · Post by **Kilmer72** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:41 pm

Red_One43 wrote:Grossman cannot take off and run like Beck

This is true and I like what I see from Beck but, from what I heard, the Colts have only won 4 Preseason games in a long time. They do not try. I think Beck has more upside but his lack of experience is going to cost us against really good teams. I hope I am wrong. I guess we will see when they go up against NFC East teams.

I think Rex, despite throwing interceptions has much more experience and will help. Beck has a slower release. Rex isn't as mobile. I think either one could be capable in this scheme.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:59 pm

I could not care less what Beck or Grossman are doing in these pre season games - ALL that matters is how Mike & Kyle see them doing against the Redskins defense in practice

These teams (Steelers & Colts) are not showing anything defensively and Mike & Kyle will make the starting QB choice based on these guys ability to get it done against guys that are trying to make the Redskins roster NOT against pansy defenses like we've seen the last 2 'games'

yupchagee · Post by **yupchagee** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:43 pm

SkinsJock wrote:I could not care less what Beck or Grossman are doing in these pre season games - ALL that matters is how Mike & Kyle see them doing against the Redskins defense in practice

These teams (Steelers & Colts) are not showing anything defensively and Mike & Kyle will make the starting QB choice based on these guys ability to get it done against guys that are trying to make the Redskins roster NOT against pansy defenses like we've seen the last 2 'games'

I this is true, why do we play preseason games?