the Hogs.net All-Time Team: Quarterback

[Steve Spurrier III]

**NOTE* I really messed up the poll. I'm really sorry. Please pretend I'm not a moron*

Since the offseason is moving very slowly at this point (nothing is likely to happen until training camp), I thought it would be fun if we voted on and created theHogs.net All-Time Team.

Here is how it will work. Every week I will post a new position, and everyone will have a week to vote and discuss who they think is the best all-time at that position.

For the nominees, I will use the NFL’s 75th Anniversary team which can be found here:

http://www.nfl.com/history/legends/75th-anniversary

The list was compiled by a panel of experts in 1994. I may add a few names based on events that have happened since 1994. You can always vote for “other” but if you want your write-in vote to count, you need to specify who you want to vote for.

For the purpose of this team, make your decisions regardless of era. If Sammy Baugh was teleported into present time, he probably wouldn’t fare as well on the field as he did in the 1940’s, but that is an unrealistic scenario. If Baugh had grown up in present time, he likely would have been exposed to the technologies and training that make football players the animals they are today, and therefore would have been a completley different quarterback. So with that in mind, don’t worry about the era the players played in, just vote on how good they were when they stepped on the field.

This week, we will vote on quarterbacks. The nominees:

Sammy Baugh
Washington Redskins (1937-1952)

Baugh revolutionized the game of football with his ability to throw downfield. When he finally retired in 1952, he owned every passing record of any significance. Not just a one-dimensional player, he was true ironman, playing cornerback as well as punting. In 1943 Baugh led the league in passing, interceptions and punting. To this day he still owns the highest career punting average at 45.1, and the single-season mark thanks to his 51.4 from 1940. Led the Redskins to two NFL titles in 1937 and again in 1942. When he finally hung up the cleats, he was undoubtedly one of the greatest players every to play the game.

Brett Favre
Atlanta Falcons (1991), Green Bay Packers (1992-present)

A 6-time Pro Bowl quarterback, he won the MVP trophy three consecutive seasons from 1995-1996. The three trophies are an NFL record. Led the Packers to a victory in Super Bowl XXXI. Including the playoffs, he has started 190 consecutive games, a record for a quarterback and a testament to his incredible durability. Ranks in the NFL's top ten in four major passing categories: third in touchdowns (314), fifth in attempts (5,993), fifth in completions (3,652), sixth in yards (42,285). An interesting tidbit, his first NFL completion was to himself, after he caught his deflected pass for a seven-yard loss.

Otto Graham
Cleveland Browns (1946-1955)
A five-time All-Pro, and a two-time MVP, Graham led the Cleveland Browns to an incredible 7 titles in just 10 years. After winning four AAFC Championships in consecutive years (1946-1949), he proved that the Browns were for real by winning the NFL Championship three more times (1950, 1954, 1955). He was a contemporary of Baugh, as “Automatic Otto” never missed a game as a pro, and finished with an incredible regular season win-loss record of 105-17-4. He was born to be a record setter. On the day of his birth he set an Illinois state record by weighing in at 14 pounds and 12 ounces.

Dan Marino
Miami Dolphins (1983-1999)

When Dan Marino retired in 1999, he had broken practically every record there was to be broken. He holds the NFL record for career attempts, career completions, career passing yards, career passing touchdowns, single season passing yards, most 400 yard passing games in a career and season, most 300 yard passing games in a career, most 3,000 yards seasons and most consecutive 3,000 yard seasons are just a few of the notable records “Dan the Man” still holds. Unfortunately, his career was marred by the fact that he was never able to win a Super Bowl.

Joe Montana
San Francisco 49ers (1979-1992), Kansas City Chiefs (1993-1994)

If “The Comeback King” was nothing else, he was a winner. After leading Notre Dame to a national title in 1977, he led the previously terrible 49ers to four Super Bowl wins in a nine-year span, winning a record three Super Bowl MVP trophies. A two-time NFL MVP in 1989 and 1990, he led the NFL in passing five times and is second in all-time quarterback rating. His cool under pressure and ability to make good decisions personified the 49ers patented West Coast offense and would set the offensive trend in the NFL for the next decade.

Johnny Unitas
Baltimore Colts (1956-1972), San Diego Chargers (1973)

Considered by many to be the greatest to ever play the game, he was voted the “Greatest Player in the First 50 Years of Football” in 2000 and named the quarterback for the NFL’s All-Time team. In his eighteen-year career, “Johnny U.” went to ten Pro Bowls and won three NFL MVP awards. He led the Colts to two NFL titles in 1958 and 1958 and a Super Bowl win in 1971. He retired with most of the significant career passing records, including career yardage, as he became the first man to break 40,000 yards with his 40,239. Unlike some of the other quarterbacks on this list, he was not a golden prospect. He was cut by the Steelers after the head coach decided Unitas was too dumb to play quarterback.


The poll will end in seven days. Next week: Halfbacks

[REDEEMEDSKIN]

I don't know.....

Is this sanctioned by Boss and the "higher ups" of thehogs.net?

[Steve Spurrier III]

You're right, my apologies.

This is actually, "The Unofficial theHogs.net All-Time Team".

Just vote...

[surferskin]

I had to vote for Montana...he always made it look so easy, he didn't force things and was cool under pressure.

[surferskin]

i'd have to say that john elway belongs on that list as well..i'd probably say he'd be my second choice.

[REDEEMEDSKIN]

Voted Montana, but wondering why isn't on the list? What gives???!!!:wink:

[Smithian]

Sammy Baugh. He introduced the forward pass to the NFL. The guy was the best pure passer ever, but sadly was born to early to be in the age of passing.

[DEHog]

Terry Bradshaw

[Steve Spurrier III]

Bradshaw was the first quarterback to lead a team to four Super Bowl victories. He registered two Super Bowl MVP trophies and one regular season MVP award.

However, his quarterback rating never broke 88.0 in a single season. There is no doubt that he is a Hall of Fame quarterback, but what leads you to believe that he is more qualified than Joe Montana, who had those same 4 Super Bowls to go with his career quarterback rating of 92.3?

To be fair, there are some things to remember when comparing Bradshaw and Montana based on quarterback rating. Montana played in the West Coast offense, which is a quarterback rating-friendly offense. Had Bradshaw had this same luxury, he undoubtedly would have had some seasons where he broke into the 90's. But the differnence between their career rating is too big to just be accounted for in terms of offensive system. In addition, Montana has the significant edge in yards, touchdowns and interceptions.

I really don't think their is a comparison.

Bradshaw: http://www.hickoksports.com/biograph/bradshwt.shtml
Montana: http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/5649 ... ntana.html

[REDEEMEDSKIN]

SAYS:

"Yeah, what are you thinkin'????!!!! BRADSHAW!!????"

[Steve Spurrier III]

After 1 day:

Montana: 4 votes
Unitas: 2 votes
Baugh: 2 votes
Marino: 1 vote
Bradshaw: 1 vote

John Elway and Danny Wuerfell have recieved two second place votes (which don't count for anything, but are interesting nonetheless).

[REDEEMEDSKIN]

John Elway and Danny Wuerfell have recieved two second place votes (which don't count for anything, but are interesting nonetheless).

Wuerffel.... the Ralph Nader of this poll.

He might just make Montana's victory over Unitas THAT much closer. Beware of hanging chads.

ROCK the vote people!!!!

[Steve Spurrier III]

Well, after four days, Montana has stretched his lead to three over Unitas and Baugh.

Keep those votes coming...

[Brandon777]

I picked Joe Montana.

[Amberion]

I voted for Joe

Best I ever saw at making the vital play just when it was most needed

[Deadskins]

I voted for Joe

Best I ever saw...

That says it all. Sammy Baugh is the King. But it's really apples and oranges to compare QBs from such different eras.

[Steve Spurrier III]

But it's really apples and oranges to compare QBs from such different eras.

This is true, but read the intial post. I know that it is very difficult, but we just have to use our imaginations for a little while.

Last day to vote. Montana looks to have it locked up, although if some people in Hog Wash realized this poll was here, Baugh could easily make a run...