yupchagee wrote:DarthMonk wrote:How does this sound for a starting 3?
1 Sidney Rice (FA from Vikings)
2 Hankerson
Slot Moss
Then we bring in AA and BB for the 4 and 5 WR sets.
Now if we can find a QB and block for him .. maybe run a little.
DarthMonk
Why bench AA? He had a breakout season & didn't even begin the year as starter.
Red_One43 wrote:Now, I want to look at Aldrick Robinson.
Here is a height and weight comparison of him and Moss and Austin since the biggest knock on him is his size and that he is a "lanky' 5'10" with very little strength to out muscle DBs for the ball.
I chose Moss for comparison because almost all the scouting reports on Robinson say that he is to be successful in the NFL, it will have to be at the slot. Folks are thinking that Moss will be our Slot receiver next year. I chose Austin because, he is clearly on the bubble this year and Robinson is close to his size.
Aldrick Robinson - 5' 10" 184
Santana Moss - 5'10" - 205
Terrance Austin - 5'11" - 175
http://www.redskins.com/team/roster.html
Robinson - 4.43 Combine 40 yrd dash
Austin - 4.52 Combine
Paul - 4.51 Combine
Santana Moss - 4.31 Combine (Just threw that in for kicks and grins)
Reports on Robinson: The only consistent knock on him is he is small and "frail," "lanky" and lacks a physical game. Everyone seems to agree that he is limited to the slot for the pros and that is why his draft stock slid.
http://www.fanaticalfootballfiend.com/3 ... ports.html
Can he return kicks?
He only returned 5 kick offs for his college career and no punt returns.
A statement by Wes Bunting can give an indication that he could be an outstadning kick returner. Wes Bunting can be found in the link above.
"Displays some wiggle and lateral quickness with the ball in his hands. Gets up to speed quickly, can make a man miss and create after the catch. He's a tough kid who isn't afraid to work the middle of the field as well."
Robinson's prospects on making the roster:
Robinson receiver coach at SMU, Jeff Reinebold:
"Last year, a scout told me that Emmanuel (Sanders) was the most advanced wide receiver he scouted, and this year, I had the same thing said to me about Al," Reinebold said. "One reason June has had so many players in the league is that he teaches the difference between knowledge and understanding, and the fact that you have to have both. Al has both. I'm biased, of course, but when look at some of the guys who were drafted ahead of him, he is so much more advanced as a receiver, the way he runs his routes, the way he uses his hands, the way he sets up defenders. He has gone from being just a fast kid to being a pretty polished receiver."
http://smumustangs.cstv.com/sports/m-fo ... aaa.html#_
I didn't list Robinson as one of my six, but I had him making the practice squad like Austin did last year. After my research. I am saying he makes the team (that means I have to give up on Malcolm Kelly, at least for now). I believe that he will prove to be a good kick returner, but it remains to be seen if he has the vision of Banks as a returns.
My Six right now are
Armstrong
Moss
Hankerson
Paul
Robinson
Banks
Here are college receiving stats for comparison:
Note* Maurice Price and Taurus Johnson have never causght an NFL regualr season pass. Also, Taurus Played for the South Florida Bulls - his destiny.
Aldrick Robinson
http://espn.go.com/college-football/pla ... k-robinson
Taurus Johnson
http://espn.go.com/college-football/pla ... us-johnson
Maurice Price
http://espn.go.com/college-football/pla ... rice-price
Terrence Austin
http://espn.go.com/college-football/pla ... nce-austin
Brandon Banks
http://espn.go.com/college-football/pla ... ndon-banks
Niles Paul
http://espn.go.com/college-football/pla ... niles-paul
First, Robinson outfoxed safety Chris Horton to haul in a long touchdown, slowing down as the ball hung in the air in order to make the safety think he was breaking off the route.
Shortly thereafter. the 5-foot-9, 180-pounder displayed excellent hands as he held onto a pass from John Beck while covered tightly by cornerback Kevin Barnes.
"I was impressed," Beck said. "He made some really good catches."
yupchagee wrote:DarthMonk wrote:Red_One43 wrote:.. My Six right now are
Armstrong
Moss
Hankerson
Paul
Robinson
Banks
How does this sound for a starting 3?
1 Sidney Rice (FA from Vikings)
2 Hankerson
Slot Moss
Then we bring in AA and BB for the 4 and 5 WR sets.
Now if we can find a QB and block for him .. maybe run a little.
DarthMonk
Why bench AA? He had a breakout season & didn't even begin the year as starter.
DarthMonk wrote:yupchagee wrote:DarthMonk wrote:Red_One43 wrote:.. My Six right now are
Armstrong
Moss
Hankerson
Paul
Robinson
Banks
How does this sound for a starting 3?
1 Sidney Rice (FA from Vikings)
2 Hankerson
Slot Moss
Then we bring in AA and BB for the 4 and 5 WR sets.
Now if we can find a QB and block for him .. maybe run a little.
DarthMonk
Why bench AA? He had a breakout season & didn't even begin the year as starter.
Not really thinking in terms of "benching" him at all. Just want guys we have picked, etc. to pan out. Rice is the kind of guy we need but I'd rather he be "home grown." Would be great if Kelly broke out. Red One had a solid take on him.
DarthMonk
HEROHAMO wrote:Kelly Hopes His Injuries Are In the Past
By Brian Tinsman
Posted Jun 17, 2011
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Once a highly touted Redskins prospect, wide receiver Malcolm Kelly went into 2010 hoping for a breakout season. Derailed early by nagging hamstring injuries, Kelly was placed on injured reserve at the end of training camp.
Despite the disappointment, Kelly never stepped out on his teammates. Throughout the season, he stuck with the same routine that he would if he were playing.
“I was here for every single play in every single meeting and team meeting,” Kelly said after the 2010 season ended on Jan. 4. “That’s hard, coming to meetings every day, when you know you’re not going to be able to go out there and play.
“To some people, that’s pointless. But at the same time, it’s showing coaches that I want to be here, I want to be in the playbook, keep my mind on the playbook.”
After shutting Kelly down for the season, head coach Mike Shanahan let it be known that he was giving the receiver a chance to stay and make an impact in 2011, rather than cutting him outright.
“I think Malcolm has a lot of qualities you look for in a football player,” Shanahan said. “If I see the right type of work ethic and him doing the little things – the little things the right way – he's got a much better opportunity to be with us next year.”
This approach was not lost on Kelly. He compared his situation to that of fellow wide receiver Devin Thomas, who was cut by Shanahan in October.
Said Kelly: “I think Coach Shanahan let everybody know from the time he got here – everybody has a vibe that we aren’t the guys that he brought [here]. That means we have to show him that we want to be here and that we can play football.”
Being on the sidelines offered Kelly a different perspective than being on the field. In some respects, it offered him a better view of Kyle Shanahan’s offense, which takes time to grasp.
“It’s a wide-open scheme, it’s a wide-open offense,” Kelly said. “It’s a lot more complicated than people think. I think that after a year or two, I’ll be good with it.”
Kelly was selected in the second round (51st overall) of the 2008 NFL Draft. At 6-4, 226 pounds, he possesses impressive size and physical tools necessary to be a dominant receiver.
“I think I’ll still be given an opportunity,” he said on Jan. 4. “I think if [Shanahan] didn’t want to give me an opportunity, he would have let me go during training camp. That’s how I look at it. By him keeping me around, it gives me a chance though.”
In his brief career, Kelly has 28 receptions for 365 yards, for a 13.0 yards-per-catch average. In 2009, he appeared in all 16 games, starting 10, and had a career-long reception of 84 yards against the Chargers in Week 17.
“I think that I can bring a different set of elements to the offense,” Kelly said. “We’ll just have to see how everything goes.”
I hope Kelly finally steps it up as well. Also hope the injury bug leaves him alone.
Kelly said he is now completely healthy. He displayed good explosion this week. The defense wasn’t as tight as it would be during a normal training camp practice, but Kelly turned in a few impressive catches. Now, if he can do that when coach Mike Shanahan and his assistants are watching, that will be the key, he said.
Malcolm Kelly: Malcolm Kelly may not make the Redskins
Malcolm Kelly - WR - WAS - May. 27 - 1:31 pm et
Comcast Sports Washington's Rich Tandler doesn't believe Malcolm Kelly will make the Redskins' 2011 roster.
"Doesn't seem to be a Shanny-type player, think he's out," writes Tandler. We'd also point to Kelly's inability to separate and stay healthy, in addition to the Redskins' three rookie draft picks used on wide receivers. It's pretty clear they're ready to move on. The 51st overall choice in the 2008 draft, Kelly has just 28 career catches without a touchdown. May. 27 - 1:31 pm et
Source: Rich Tandler on Twitter
Red_One43 wrote:.. My Six right now are
Armstrong
Moss
Hankerson
Paul
Robinson
Banks
SkinsJock wrote:Red_One43 wrote:.. My Six right now are
Armstrong
Moss
Hankerson
Paul
Robinson
Banks
Okay - after further consideration - I'll add that maybe Kelly still has a chance here
I agree that he's not done well, but just maybe, he really gets it this time around
KazooSkinsFan wrote:SkinsJock wrote:Red_One43 wrote:.. My Six right now are
Armstrong
Moss
Hankerson
Paul
Robinson
Banks
Okay - after further consideration - I'll add that maybe Kelly still has a chance here
I agree that he's not done well, but just maybe, he really gets it this time around
Kelly has a chance, but that he's not been able to stay healthy is certainly going to be a consideration and work against him.
TeeterSalad wrote: if they do not I think they will grab another FA receiver, maybe V-Jax, or Sidney Rice.
langleyparkjoe wrote:TeeterSalad wrote: if they do not I think they will grab another FA receiver, maybe V-Jax, or Sidney Rice.
I don't think they'll let go of either of them bro. Mcnugget will probably end up in Minn so they'll def. keep Rice and VJAX is the best WR Chargers have.. the others were all fill-ins for real.
TeeterSalad wrote:I'm ready to take a shot at this...
Moss
Armstrong
Hankerson
Paul
Banks
Kelly
Of course this is if they re-sign Santana, if they do not I think they will grab another FA receiver, maybe V-Jax, or Sidney Rice.
1niksder wrote:Armstrong, Anthony
Austin, Terrence
Banks, Brandon
Johnson, Taurus
Kelly, Malcolm
Moss, Santana
Price, Maurice
Williams, Roydell
Hankerson, Leonard
Paul, Niles
Robinson, Aldrick
AAA will definitely be back and Hankerson may start his rookie season, from there the Redskins are a mystery at WR.
Some in the media say they will go out and sign a wide out in free agency, well if they do that they've filled 3 slots. I wouldn't mind and hope they resign Tana, but that still leaves at least 3 slots to be filled. The draft provided a look to the future, with Hankerson and Paul lining up outside and Robinson should be a good slot receiver. That's the future what about 2011?
Paul was a pretty good return guy in college but also plays on the cover units... What does that say about Banks who's still not 100% after running into the blade of a knife and doesn't/can't play on cover units.
Banks may have a better shot at keeping a roster spot than Williams and Kelly or may battle Austin for the last slot.
Will they keep 6 or will they keep 7.
I think they'll bring in a free agent and bring back Moss, I think all three rookies make the team (Robinson to the PS, unless rosters are expanded due to the lockout) and Williams and Kelly won't.
That leaves Banks, Austin, Johnson, and Price to fight it out for the last one maybe two spots. I could see Austin and Banks both gone.
Here's my best guess
Free Agent signing
Moss, Santana
Armstrong, Anthony
Hankerson, Leonard
Price, Maurice
Paul, Niles
Johnson, Taurus (if they keep 7)
Robinson, Aldrick (PS)
What's your's
1niksder wrote:1niksder wrote:Armstrong, Anthony
Austin, Terrence
Banks, Brandon
Johnson, Taurus
Kelly, Malcolm
Moss, Santana
Price, Maurice
Williams, Roydell
Hankerson, Leonard
Paul, Niles
Robinson, Aldrick
AAA will definitely be back and Hankerson may start his rookie season, from there the Redskins are a mystery at WR.
Some in the media say they will go out and sign a wide out in free agency, well if they do that they've filled 3 slots. I wouldn't mind and hope they resign Tana, but that still leaves at least 3 slots to be filled. The draft provided a look to the future, with Hankerson and Paul lining up outside and Robinson should be a good slot receiver. That's the future what about 2011?
Paul was a pretty good return guy in college but also plays on the cover units... What does that say about Banks who's still not 100% after running into the blade of a knife and doesn't/can't play on cover units.
Banks may have a better shot at keeping a roster spot than Williams and Kelly or may battle Austin for the last slot.
Will they keep 6 or will they keep 7.
I think they'll bring in a free agent and bring back Moss, I think all three rookies make the team (Robinson to the PS, unless rosters are expanded due to the lockout) and Williams and Kelly won't.
That leaves Banks, Austin, Johnson, and Price to fight it out for the last one maybe two spots. I could see Austin and Banks both gone.
Here's my best guess
Free Agent signing
Moss, Santana
Armstrong, Anthony
Hankerson, Leonard
Price, Maurice
Paul, Niles
Johnson, Taurus (if they keep 7)
Robinson, Aldrick (PS)
What's your's
Let try this again.....
The Redskins now have 14 wide receivers with Santana Moss, Donte Stallworth, Jabar Gaffney, Brandon Stokley, Anthony Armstrong, Leonard Hankerson, Terrence Austin, Taurus Johnson, Brandon Banks, Malcolm Kelly, Niles Paul, Maurice Price, Roydell Williams and Aldrick Robinson.
Who stays, and who goes?
Moss, Armstrong, and Hankerson have spots, that leaves three spots for the other eleven receivers to battle for.
Johnson, Price, and Williams aren't going to last long, Austin, Robinson and Paul could land on the practice squad leaving six Kelly, Stallworth, Banks, Stokley, and Gaffney competing for those three spots.
Austin, Banks, and Paul will also compete for the return duties bring the number of WR slots down to two. Again I'll guess Banks is the odd man out and the loser between Austin and Paul landing on the PS. Gaffney and Kelly will battle for the 5th spot. If they keep seven Stokley and Stallworth will have a shot.
So the WR corps. will look like this:
If they keep 6
Moss
Armstrong
Hankerson
Gaffney
Kelly
Austin
with Robinson and Paul going to the PS
yupchagee wrote:
Kelly probably get injured again.
1niksder wrote:yupchagee wrote:
Kelly probably get injured again.
If he gets a headache he might get cut
1niksder wrote:Armstrong, Anthony
Austin, Terrence
Banks, Brandon
Johnson, Taurus
Kelly, Malcolm
Moss, Santana
Price, Maurice
Williams, Roydell
Hankerson, Leonard
Paul, Niles
Robinson, Aldrick
1niksder wrote:1niksder wrote:Armstrong, Anthony
Austin, Terrence
Banks, Brandon
Johnson, Taurus
Kelly, Malcolm
Moss, Santana
Price, Maurice
Williams, Roydell
Hankerson, Leonard
Paul, Niles
Robinson, Aldrick
AAA will definitely be back and Hankerson may start his rookie season, from there the Redskins are a mystery at WR.
Some in the media say they will go out and sign a wide out in free agency, well if they do that they've filled 3 slots. I wouldn't mind and hope they resign Tana, but that still leaves at least 3 slots to be filled. The draft provided a look to the future, with Hankerson and Paul lining up outside and Robinson should be a good slot receiver. That's the future what about 2011?
Paul was a pretty good return guy in college but also plays on the cover units... What does that say about Banks who's still not 100% after running into the blade of a knife and doesn't/can't play on cover units.
Banks may have a better shot at keeping a roster spot than Williams and Kelly or may battle Austin for the last slot.
Will they keep 6 or will they keep 7.
I think they'll bring in a free agent and bring back Moss, I think all three rookies make the team (Robinson to the PS, unless rosters are expanded due to the lockout) and Williams and Kelly won't.
That leaves Banks, Austin, Johnson, and Price to fight it out for the last one maybe two spots. I could see Austin and Banks both gone.
Here's my best guess
Free Agent signing
Moss, Santana
Armstrong, Anthony
Hankerson, Leonard
Price, Maurice
Paul, Niles
Johnson, Taurus (if they keep 7)
Robinson, Aldrick (PS)
What's your's
Let try this again.....
The Redskins now have 14 wide receivers with Santana Moss, Donte Stallworth, Jabar Gaffney, Brandon Stokley, Anthony Armstrong, Leonard Hankerson, Terrence Austin, Taurus Johnson, Brandon Banks, Malcolm Kelly, Niles Paul, Maurice Price, Roydell Williams and Aldrick Robinson.
Who stays, and who goes?
Moss, Armstrong, and Hankerson have spots, that leaves three spots for the other eleven receivers to battle for.
Johnson, Price, and Williams aren't going to last long, Austin, Robinson and Paul could land on the practice squad leaving six Kelly, Stallworth, Banks, Stokley, and Gaffney competing for those three spots.
Austin, Banks, and Paul will also compete for the return duties bring the number of WR slots down to two. Again I'll guess Banks is the odd man out and the loser between Austin and Paul landing on the PS. Gaffney and Kelly will battle for the 5th spot. If they keep seven Stokley and Stallworth will have a shot.
So the WR corps. will look like this:
If they keep 6
Moss
Armstrong
Hankerson
Gaffney
Kelly
Austin
with Robinson and Paul going to the PS
