Rogers talking his way out of DC

[The Hogster]

Not at the table Carlos.

[VetSkinsFan]

Please, name me the QBs who have been successful with a new scheme every year?

I don't disagree, but I don't see how that contradicts what I've written.

In the first place, Campbell really only faced two major scheme shifts as a Redskin. He had most of the year to adjust for Saunders's scheme before stepping in — not to mention a year before that as 3rd QB as a transition period to the NFL in general — and then another year to execute it. Zorn brought a second shift, but again Campbell had two years to adjust. I'm not saying he should have been perfect, but I don't see how a new scheme justifies his performance being as mediocre as it was.

And even if the new schemes are to blame for inconsistent performances, the points I've made about Campbell failing in key moments still stands, I think. (And CT and Kazoo point out, rightly I think, that schemes don't have much to do with inaccuracy and pocket presence.) What I'm saying is that even if coaching, schemes, or something else is primarily to blame, if Campbell was to be our starting quarterback, he needed to show more flair and talent than he did, especially in the crucial moments of games.

I've said (as have others) time and time again that Campbell lacks that killer instinct that other successful quarterbacks possess. That, to me, is a big indicator that Campbell was never likely to succeed here in DC.

Do I think that JC is elite? No, but don't put all that on him.

Yes, but what this leaves out is that there is a large range of options in between "awful" and "elite." JC wasn't elite, and he wasn't awful. There were mitigating circumstances, as you point out. But even with those qualifications in mind, it is beyond me how anyone could assess his play in Washington as something other than "mediocre at best."

I guess the beatings he took behind that atrocity called an offensive line had nothing to do with it either.

But I'll let JC be the fall guy. After all, I mean, a position coach coming in and promoted to head coach and relies on plays like the swinging gate, and gets his playcalling duties stripped from him mid-year... I'll put that load on JC as well. Who was I kidding

[KazooSkinsFan]

I guess the beatings he took behind that atrocity called an offensive line had nothing to do with it either

Wow, great comeback...to an argument no one's made....

But I'll let JC be the fall guy. After all, I mean, a position coach coming in and promoted to head coach and relies on plays like the swinging gate, and gets his playcalling duties stripped from him mid-year... I'll put that load on JC as well. Who was I kidding

Again...

None of this has to do with once players are open he's slow to react and can't deliver the ball. Any rebuttals to the points we did make or you want to just keep arguing points we didn't?