2011 NFL Draft Night Thread

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:32 pm

Red_One43 wrote:I was thinking corner with starting potential.

Perhaps you should have stated that BEFORE they made the pick... :wink:

lowtharofthehill · Post by **lowtharofthehill** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:32 pm

not a fan of recent pick. Least favorite move in draft by skins so far.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:32 pm

frankcal20 wrote:Not a great review IMO
Gomes has the physicality and mentality to be a reserve defensive back who lines up near the box in nickel and dime packages while also providing special teams coverage value. Comfortable playing in zone down near the line, breaks well on the ball and is quick and aggressive in run support. Not capable of roaming the deep half or shadowing receivers, tight ends or backs in man coverage at the next level. Not comfortable tackling out in space. Durable and has the build to hold up in the NFL. Gomes has some limitations, but still warrant a late round selection or free agent consideration.

brad7686 · Post by **brad7686** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:33 pm

The late round drafting hasn't improved i see. I understand its a down year for linemen but they must really plan on attacking them in FA, and if they plan on also addressing WR and CB, then somethings gonna give. Probly be WR again. Which we need every year alot more than people realize.

FanofallthatisGibbs · Post by **FanofallthatisGibbs** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:34 pm

Here's what I don't understand, if they love the guy - great! But really, you have another pick in 9 picks. Do you really think another team is targeting this guy? Pick your best value pick and use the next pick on the ST/backup guy. hmmmmm...

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:35 pm

Countertrey wrote:
Red_One43 wrote:I was thinking corner with starting potential.

Perhaps you should have stated that BEFORE they made the pick...

Now, there I go again, not being specific.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:35 pm

Gomes said #Redskins told him he will be worked in coverage units at the slot, corner and some strong safety.

Gomes: "I feel comfortable down in the box, close to the action. My strengths are being able to cover in the slot."

Well that makes me feel better that they plan on using him as a nickel corner. Probably Otagwe's backup.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:36 pm

Insider

Gomes said #Redskins told him he will be worked in coverage units at the slot, corner and some strong safety.

brad7686 · Post by **brad7686** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:36 pm

FanofallthatisGibbs wrote:Here's what I don't understand, if they love the guy - great! But really, you have another pick in 9 picks. Do you really think another team is targeting this guy? Pick your best value pick and use the next pick on the ST/backup guy. hmmmmm...

Exactly. Cody Glenn, Dallas Sartz, Dejon Gomes, it never ends.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:36 pm

Gomes said at Nebraska he played in three of the four special teams units as well.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:37 pm

frankcal20 wrote:
Gomes said #Redskins told him he will be worked in coverage units at the slot, corner and some strong safety.

Gomes: "I feel comfortable down in the box, close to the action. My strengths are being able to cover in the slot."

Well that makes me feel better that they plan on using him as a nickel corner. Probably Otagwe's backup.

It still doesn't make sense. Chances are we could've gotten this kid in the 7th or as an UFA. We have gotten terrible value our last two picks.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:37 pm

Ryan O'Halloran
Gomes said #Redskins told him he'll work at nickel and dime slot corner and free safety.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:38 pm

brad7686 wrote:
FanofallthatisGibbs wrote:Here's what I don't understand, if they love the guy - great! But really, you have another pick in 9 picks. Do you really think another team is targeting this guy? Pick your best value pick and use the next pick on the ST/backup guy. hmmmmm...

Exactly. Cody Glenn, Dallas Sartz, Dejon Gomes, it never ends.

Yup

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:38 pm

brad7686 wrote:
FanofallthatisGibbs wrote:Here's what I don't understand, if they love the guy - great! But really, you have another pick in 9 picks. Do you really think another team is targeting this guy? Pick your best value pick and use the next pick on the ST/backup guy. hmmmmm...

Exactly. Cody Glenn, Dallas Sartz, Dejon Gomes, it never ends.

Different coaches & front office guys.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:39 pm

CanesSkins26 wrote:
brad7686 wrote:
FanofallthatisGibbs wrote:Here's what I don't understand, if they love the guy - great! But really, you have another pick in 9 picks. Do you really think another team is targeting this guy? Pick your best value pick and use the next pick on the ST/backup guy. hmmmmm...

Exactly. Cody Glenn, Dallas Sartz, Dejon Gomes, it never ends.

Yup

By the way regarding Cody Glenn. He's doing a damn good job over in Indy. He's their special teams guru. Get's a ton of tackles.

brad7686 · Post by **brad7686** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:39 pm

yea but they still take guys in the 5th round that would go undrafted. Its not smart when there are guys with starting potential out there.

Cody Glenn doesn't have a position. You don't draft Special teams guys.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:40 pm

1niksder wrote:
Ryan O'Halloran
Gomes said #Redskins told him he'll work at nickel and dime slot corner and free safety.

So, this pick might mean that Barnes is going back to CB (assuming we haven't given up on Moore).

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:40 pm

frankcal20 wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:
brad7686 wrote:
FanofallthatisGibbs wrote:Here's what I don't understand, if they love the guy - great! But really, you have another pick in 9 picks. Do you really think another team is targeting this guy? Pick your best value pick and use the next pick on the ST/backup guy. hmmmmm...

Exactly. Cody Glenn, Dallas Sartz, Dejon Gomes, it never ends.

Yup

By the way regarding Cody Glenn. He's doing a damn good job over in Indy. He's their special teams guru. Get's a ton of tackles.

Good point!

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:42 pm

For what it's worth, Jville just drafted a kid that doesn't even have stats in Rod Issac from Middle Tenn. State. Maybe these coaches know more than us. That's all I'm saying.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:43 pm

Also, lot's of DB's coming off the board now. So this must've been the Skins highest rated DB on the board. Not going to knock them for taking the guy they wanted.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:43 pm

frankcal20 wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:
brad7686 wrote:
FanofallthatisGibbs wrote:Here's what I don't understand, if they love the guy - great! But really, you have another pick in 9 picks. Do you really think another team is targeting this guy? Pick your best value pick and use the next pick on the ST/backup guy. hmmmmm...

Exactly. Cody Glenn, Dallas Sartz, Dejon Gomes, it never ends.

Yup

By the way regarding Cody Glenn. He's doing a damn good job over in Indy. He's their special teams guru. Get's a ton of tackles.

A ton of tackles? 24 in two years.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:44 pm

Red_One43 wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Ryan O'Halloran
Gomes said #Redskins told him he'll work at nickel and dime slot corner and free safety.

So, this pick might mean that Barnes is going back to CB (assuming we haven't given up on Moore).

Barnes back to CB, Gomes looks like a replacement for Horton or Moore

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:45 pm

With the 146th pick in the NFL Draft, the Redskins select DeJon Gomes, a free safety out of Nebraska. I don't know much about Jones, but Tennessee Titans blog Music City Miracles has an interesting take on him:

While Gomes only had two years to prove his worth to NFL scouts while at Nebraska after transferring from Junior College, he wasted little time in becoming a fringe prospect and gained a reputation as a hard-hitter, a ball hawk, and an overall big play machine. He's got the size, strength, and coverage skills to play any position in the defensive backfield and even lined up as a linebacker at Nebraska when the situation called for it, so his versatility is a big plus, but most scouts project him as a strong-safety in the NFL.

So on paper, you've got a good looking player who can line up at multiple positions and has a great physical makeup. What's the downside in picking him? I think that the versatility that defines his game also hurts him. Teams can make him into whatever they want him to be, but at the same time, he's not a perfect fit for any position which hurts his status in the eyes of a lot of teams.

Sounds like a Lorenzo Alexander of the backfield, frankly. At the very least, an intriguing prospect.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:46 pm

Don't be shocked if we don't take Kendric Burney with our next pick. Graded as a 3rd round pick and we're in the late 5th. Good value here.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:46 pm

TJ Yates off the board.

Let's go Jerrell Powe for NT next pick.