MB GM Mock Draft has arrived... WAS OTC

[skins2357]

Sumner in the 5th, and rotate him with Bryant while he learns the ropes and I think that solidifies the NT position.

If we HAVE to pick 10th and cant trade down, I would look at Quinn, J. Jones, Aldon Smith in that order. Hopefully we can trade down and pick up another 2nd rounder. We just have too many holes to hold onto that 10th pick if trading down is a possiblilty IMO

[TCIYM]

Sumner in the 5th, and rotate him with Bryant while he learns the ropes and I think that solidifies the NT position.

If we HAVE to pick 10th and cant trade down, I would look at Quinn, J. Jones, Aldon Smith in that order. Hopefully we can trade down and pick up another 2nd rounder. We just have too many holes to hold onto that 10th pick if trading down is a possiblilty IMO

From Wes Bunting @ National Football Post:

Blaine Sumner is a 6-1, 335 pound nose tackle prospect from Colorado School of the Mines. He's a three-year starter who accounted for over 30 tackles as a senior, 6.5 tackles for loss and a half sack. However, Sumner is a making a lot of noise this pro day season because of impressive numbers off the field.

The girthy nose tackle pumped out 52-reps on the bench at the Air Force pro day, breaking the all time Combine record of 49 which was just recently set by Oregon State's Stephen Paea.

Sumner is gifted powerlifter as well who has marks of 900+ pounds on the squat, 600+ pounds on the bench, dead lifts over 800 pounds and hang cleans 400+ pounds. All mind blowing numbers.

However, I got my first look at the guy on the football field yesterday and here are my thoughts…

Possesses some natural bend to his game when asked to coil up into this stance. Displays an above-average first step off the ball for his size, can gain leverage on contact and has a powerful lower half when working the bull rush. Can downright dominate at the point of attack when need be and overwhelm blockers into the backfield. Demonstrates better ball awareness than I expected and does possess some closing range in pursuit.

However, is a stiff, linear athlete. Doesn't offer much as a pass rusher. Is raw technically, too often leads with his head, doesn't maximize his length and lacks ideal hand placement initially into contact Allows himself to get upright too easily, especially in the face of a double, but is just so physically powerful he can get away with it at the small-school level.

Overall, the intriguing strength numbers have helped, gaining Sumner some additional attention during the post season. He's a naturally strong kid who when he keeps his base down can consistently overwhelm and work his way into the backfield. However, he's stiff, a limited as a pass rusher and simply plays too high when asked to anchor.

Me personally, I wouldn't give him a draftable grade. I see him more as a size free agent who I wouldn't mind having in camp. However, with the lack of ideal talent at the nose tackle position this year and the potential of being unable to sign free agents after the draft, I do think Sumner at least gave himself a shot at a draft pick late come April.

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[skins2357]

Great info on him, I had never seen that.

Heres my take: The kid is rediculously strong as has the size you need to play NT. His knocks were he leads with his head/Shoulders too much and does not generate a pass rush. But isnt that something he should be able to learn through work on technique? The pass rush does not concern me, bc thats not really his job as a NT. The fact is that he would be stronger and bigger then just about everyone he goes against every week. If we could teach him some technique and prevent him from getting pushed around (which he seems to be strong enough to prevent), this dude could be a steal, which is what u look for in late rounds.

You also highlight the fact that this guy would not give him a draftable grade, but right after that it says "However, with the lack of ideal talent at the nose tackle position this year and the potential of being unable to sign free agents after the draft, I do think Sumner at least gave himself a shot at a draft pick late come April. "

I personally want that to be us. What can I say, he's my mancrush

[Red_One43]

Great info on him, I had never seen that.

Heres my take: The kid is rediculously strong as has the size you need to play NT. His knocks were he leads with his head/Shoulders too much and does not generate a pass rush. But isnt that something he should be able to learn through work on technique? The pass rush does not concern me, bc thats not really his job as a NT. The fact is that he would be stronger and bigger then just about everyone he goes against every week. If we could teach him some technique and prevent him from getting pushed around (which he seems to be strong enough to prevent), this dude could be a steal, which is what u look for in late rounds.

You also highlight the fact that this guy would not give him a draftable grade, but right after that it says "However, with the lack of ideal talent at the nose tackle position this year and the potential of being unable to sign free agents after the draft, I do think Sumner at least gave himself a shot at a draft pick late come April. "

I personally want that to be us. What can I say, he's my mancrush

I was wondering what the draft experts were saying about him. On the pass rush thing, I haven't heard much about Phil Taylor being a pass rusher. I heard him described as more of a space eater type which I understand is what we want, so Blaine fits what we want. I am with you on him. The question is, is he coachable. I bet he is and I agree with you that he might be a steal. I say no way he doesn't get drafted and with our 3 - 7th round picks and needing a NT, how would we pass on taking a low risk chance on Blaine.

[skins2357]

I cant answer the coachable thing, but I can tell you I read he is graduating with 2 degrees. Kids got brains too!

[Countertrey]

And, he has a really nasty game attitude... dude gets stoked. I don't get Bunting's concern re: pass rush... the purpose of a nose tackle is to soak up blockers... keep them off the second level defenders and allow them to pursue and react without interference. A Nose Tackle who is a pass rusher is a real bonus.

I would agree that it's critical for a NT to maintain a low center of gravity, to stay low, and become unmovable... but that's a coachable skill... especially for one as motivated and intelligent as this kid appears to be.

[HEROHAMO]

I am pretty sure Mike is not drafting Cam Newton in the first round just a hunch. I think in the second round Mike will be targeting Jake Locker.

So in the first round its OLB, NT, offensive line or maybe even Ingram.
Ingram to most might be a reach at no. 10. Honestly would that be a bad move to draft Ingram at no. 10? I dont think so.


For me if Von Miller, Peterson, Dareus drop to no. 10 then we should draft one of these guys. I have my reservations with Robert Quinn. Being suspended and out for most of the Senior season leaves alot of question marks for me. So if it came down to Quinn and Ingram I would go with Ingram. Yes tough descision but I think it would be a smart one. I just think Quinn has that Athlete guy who is likely to get in trouble and not be on the football field when the Skins need him. No denying Quinns talent. Just saying you have to think of everything before you draft someone.

[SkinsJock]

I don't know much, that's for sure, but I do know that Peterson, Von Miller and Dareus are not available at #10 - they are not going to be there

If any of those guys are available we'll be swamped with offers for the pick

[yupchagee]

I don't know much, that's for sure, but I do know that Peterson, Von Miller and Dareus are not available at #10 - they are not going to be there

If any of those guys are available we'll be swamped with offers for the pick

Miller might drop because he is part of the lawsuit.

[CanesSkins26]

I don't know much, that's for sure, but I do know that Peterson, Von Miller and Dareus are not available at #10 - they are not going to be there

If any of those guys are available we'll be swamped with offers for the pick

Miller might drop because he is part of the lawsuit.

Doubtful. Apparently the Broncos are considering taking him second overall.

[Countertrey]

Miller WILL NOT drop because of the lawsuit... that would just be stupid... and NFL GM's are generally not stupid (VC and Matt Millen aside)

[CanesSkins26]

Miller WILL NOT drop because of the lawsuit... that would just be stupid... and NFL GM's are generally not stupid (VC and Matt Millen aside)

Exactly. No team is going to spite itself by passing on Miller just because he is one of the named parties in the suit. If it was Miller named, it would've been some other yet-to-be drafted player.

[yupchagee]

Miller WILL NOT drop because of the lawsuit... that would just be stupid... and NFL GM's are generally not stupid (VC and Matt Millen aside)

Many owners ARE stupid when it comes to football decisions, & may act out of spite. It has happened to more than 1 player rep.

[Countertrey]

Whatever... this is a pro-bowl quality talent, who is behaving in a principled way... I'm sure that most of the top 20 picking teams will thumb their nose at him... not.