cleg wrote:They cannot cut Haynesworth if he is going to sign with the Eagles. It would be a nightmare.
For the Eagles...
Also, they wouldn't have to worry about him not playing the whole season since he wouldn't be an every down player. He also wouldn't be gassed all the time
We had him as a role player and he was still gassed
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cleg wrote:They cannot cut Haynesworth if he is going to sign with the Eagles. It would be a nightmare.
For the Eagles...
Also, they wouldn't have to worry about him not playing the whole season since he wouldn't be an every down player. He also wouldn't be gassed all the time
We had him as a role player and he was still gassed
That's the thing with this slob - it's not that he can't play a whole season it's that he will not give it his best effort every time even if he's only used for 5 or 6 plays a game - this guy is not worth it and will hurt a defense more than he helps
that is the basic problem with this guy - some fans think (and I used to) that just his mere presence on the field is going to help - NOT - wake up people, he's not a "player" any more - he's a lying fat slob
I could care less where he goes as long as he's NOT HERE
this guy cannot be expected to be the defensive player that he think's he is and ANYONE that thinks he might help is really showing their ignorance
can you imagine how many plays this fat slob will miss out on if there is an 18 game season
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Red_One43 wrote:McNabb? your dream might come true. Keep an eye on Brad Childress as he interviews with teams for OC. If he lands with a team in need of a veteran QB - we have one that knows his O.
Yeah you might be right about that one. Teams may know that we're going to end up releasing McNabb eventually, but his $10m isn't due until September. We can sit on him until then. If anybody wants him in training camp, they'll have to make a deal. (Although the whole lockout/CBA thing might screw that up too.)
Its not a good idea to trade him to Philly. Unless they offer more then we can refuse it is not a good idea at all.
Haynesworth played two years in Washington but he also had a great career before he landed in D.C. How do you think he landed the largest contract for a defensive player in history?He had the credentials already.
Lets not mix emotion with rational thought. Trade him out of the division. We trade him to philly and he starts playing at pro bowl level again? That makes the Eagles even more dangerous then they already are.
Our team cannot afford to make our rivals stronger. Just think about it for a while and I am sure most of you will agree we cannot let him go to our rivals. Unless we get a first rounder or two second round picks.
HEROHAMO wrote:Lets not mix emotion with rational thought. Trade him out of the division
Actually, I think you're the one doing that
HEROHAMO wrote:We trade him to philly and he starts playing at pro bowl level again?
What rational fear is that me first Al is going to start caring? Your whole argument is based on his early career. His whole trend is towards self centered ego. He went so incredibly far to not give a rip when he could have done so freaking little and gotten by
Hail to the Redskins!
Groucho: Man does not control his own fate. The women in his life do that for him
Twain: A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way
HEROHAMO wrote:Lets not mix emotion with rational thought. Trade him out of the division
Actually, I think you're the one doing that
HEROHAMO wrote:We trade him to philly and he starts playing at pro bowl level again?
What rational fear is that me first Al is going to start caring? Your whole argument is based on his early career. His whole trend is towards self centered ego. He went so incredibly far to not give a rip when he could have done so freaking little and gotten by
We all know his attitude stinks. With our teams situation and Mikes coaching style it just did not work out here in D.C.
In Philly with Andy Reid it is a whole different story. Andy Reid has taken on players with attitude before like T.O. He managed to take the team all the way to the Super Bowl even with a troublesome relationship between Mcnabb and T.O.
For the simple possibility of Haynesworth becoming good again we should not ship him to Philly. Unless the compensation is to good to turn down.
Our team once again had a terrible season and finished tied for last place in the division. Trading him to the winner of the division would be foolish.
I have no tangible evidence but he would be a beast in Philly and it would be a disaster for the Redskins. It would make it even more difficult to live here during football season then it already is.
I also really hope he is traded to the Eagles, the Cowboys or the Giants - I will love rubbing it in when this fat, useless, tub of lard, cannot get it done
THIS FAT SLOB is NOT a defensive force anymore
please feel free to remind me if he manages to make a difference for ANY NFL franchise on defense
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
We all know his attitude stinks. With our teams situation and Mikes coaching style it just did not work out here in D.C.
It didn't work out with Blache's style either, but you are right. Mike and Greg Blache's ways are not the way to handle Albert.
In Philly with Andy Reid it is a whole different story. Andy Reid has taken on players with attitude before like T.O. He managed to take the team all the way to the Super Bowl even with a troublesome relationship between Mcnabb and T.O.
T.O.'s attitude was great during the run to the Super Bowl. It was the next season that T.O. had the problems because he demanded more money because of his Super Bowl performance. The riff between him and McNabb started because T.O. Said McNabb threw up in the huddle and didn't have the stamina to finish the last drive.
For the simple possibility of Haynesworth becoming good again we should not ship him to Philly. Unless the compensation is to good to turn down.
Haynesworth will not get good again. He is a horrible technique DT and always was. He got big numbers in Tennessee because he was allowed to free-lance and do what he what he does best use his power and athleticism to disrupt offenses. Where I agree with you is he definitely can hurt the Skins because we use smaller O linemen and Haynesworth can easily handle any small lineman. Also, Jim Washburn knows how to motivate Albert; however, anyone who has coached Hayneworth knows his weaknesses and knows how to exploit him like Jim Schwartz did when we played the Lions in 2009.
Our team once again had a terrible season and finished tied for last place in the division. Trading him to the winner of the division would be foolish.
It would be even more foolish for Philly to trade for him and pick up his contract to be a role player. Haynesworth is not starting material unless he gets to free-lance. That ain't happening in Philly. How many Super Bowls did Tennessee go to with the free-lancing Albert?
cleg wrote:I have no tangible evidence but he would be a beast in Philly and it would be a disaster for the Redskins. It would make it even more difficult to live here during football season then it already is.
Haynesworth can still cause problems in match ups for a lot of teams, but "disaster?" He ain't THAT good. Remember he started for us in 2009, he didn't exactly spell disaster to the 12 teams that beat us that year. If we ever have to play another team with Haynesworth on the roster, yes, we will have to game plan for him. When the Lions played us in 2009, Jim Schwartz his former DC in Tenessee was licking his chops because he knew how to exploit Haynesworth. Check out the rushing stats for that game in 2009 played in Detroit. Close to 200 yards against us and who did they run right at Hayneworth. How did they do it? Haynesworth plays horrible technique and he tires easily - no possible disaster here except Haynesworth rotting in Shanny Hell on our inactive list each game and getting written up for each infraction against team rules.
cleg wrote:I have no tangible evidence but he would be a beast in Philly and it would be a disaster for the Redskins. It would make it even more difficult to live here during football season then it already is.
If his issue were anger and resentment this would make perfect sense. But since his issue has consistently been apathy it doesn't. What indication can you possibly point to that going to the Eagles is going to motivate him based on anything that's happened here and the complete failure of anything to motivate him?
Hail to the Redskins!
Groucho: Man does not control his own fate. The women in his life do that for him
Twain: A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way
cleg wrote:I have no tangible evidence but he would be a beast in Philly and it would be a disaster for the Redskins. It would make it even more difficult to live here during football season then it already is.
If his issue were anger and resentment this would make perfect sense. But since his issue has consistently been apathy it doesn't. What indication can you possibly point to that going to the Eagles is going to motivate him based on anything that's happened here and the complete failure of anything to motivate him?
Michael Vick.
McNabb
Andy Reid can reach people and get the most of them.
cleg wrote:I have no tangible evidence but he would be a beast in Philly and it would be a disaster for the Redskins. It would make it even more difficult to live here during football season then it already is.
If his issue were anger and resentment this would make perfect sense. But since his issue has consistently been apathy it doesn't. What indication can you possibly point to that going to the Eagles is going to motivate him based on anything that's happened here and the complete failure of anything to motivate him?
Michael Vick. McNabb
Andy Reid can reach people and get the most of them.
I'm not sure I get your McNabb point, but I agree you have a point in Vick. Vick had issues though and needed discipline, but he was very motivated. Al is fat, lazy and doesn't care. He didn't really react to anything that happened here. He has millions in the bank and a full belly. Nothing anyone said about him mattered to him. The national media skewering him didn't matter to him. It's very different then Vick.
Hail to the Redskins!
Groucho: Man does not control his own fate. The women in his life do that for him
Twain: A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way
cleg wrote:I have no tangible evidence but he would be a beast in Philly and it would be a disaster for the Redskins. It would make it even more difficult to live here during football season then it already is.
If his issue were anger and resentment this would make perfect sense. But since his issue has consistently been apathy it doesn't. What indication can you possibly point to that going to the Eagles is going to motivate him based on anything that's happened here and the complete failure of anything to motivate him?
Michael Vick. McNabb
Andy Reid can reach people and get the most of them.
I'm not sure I get your McNabb point, but I agree you have a point in Vick. Vick had issues though and needed discipline, but he was very motivated. Al is fat, lazy and doesn't care. He didn't really react to anything that happened here. He has millions in the bank and a full belly. Nothing anyone said about him mattered to him. The national media skewering him didn't matter to him. It's very different then Vick.
Cleg, I think the guy you should mention as a possible motivator for Albert is Handler, Jim Washburn who is his old DL coach in Tennessee that was hired by the Eagles. Albeert says, "I owe Coach Wash pretty much everything," Haynesworth told the Tennessean. "If my deal was $100 million or whatever, then Washburn deserves $90 million. I have the talent, but he taught me how to let it loose. As a player, once you can get through the [expletive], get down to the core of what he is saying, the information is more valuable than gold. He's a great coach, a great teacher." Washburn seems to be the only guy who knows how to handle him which is why folks suspect that the Eagles hired him and expect the Eagles to try to sign Albert if he is released (They won't trade for him - that would be insane). Kaz, you are correct. Albert is fat, lazy and doesn't care; however, Washburn explained that he realized that he needed to use the "carrot and stick" approach with Albert. You can bet IF (and that is a big IF) the Eagles plan to sign Albert, the Eagles have a plan (Reid is a key here) on how to use him. Checkout how well Haynesworth played against the Eagles in Philly and against the Bears. No way Albert becomes a starter, he is simply too poor of a technique guy. He can be exploited. No way the Eagles build their D around Albert. The Eagles know you get to the Bowl by playing TEAM football. Ask the Pats, Colts, and Steelers. BTW, the Titans didn't go to the Bowl in Haynesworth's two All-Pro years. Do the Redskins see an impending disaster if Albert somehow ends up in Philly? NO, but he will present match problems especially if Shanny insists on undersized linemen on his O line. I would think Shanny rather not have to deal with that type of problem and he won't have to. If nobody offers up something worthwile for Albert, Albert will remain with the Redskins and he will be written up everytime he sneezes wrong. If Albert is smart he will pay some money back and get out while he is still marketable as a free agent. But we all know he isn't smart.
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cleg wrote:I have no tangible evidence but he would be a beast in Philly and it would be a disaster for the Redskins. It would make it even more difficult to live here during football season then it already is.
If his issue were anger and resentment this would make perfect sense. But since his issue has nconsistently been apathy it doesn't. What indication can you possibly point to that going to the Eagles is going to motivate him based on anything that's happened here and the complete failure of anything to motivate him?
Michael Vick. McNabb
Andy Reid can reach people and get the most of them.
I'm not sure I get your McNabb point, but I agree you have a point in Vick. Vick had issues though and needed discipline, but he was very motivated. Al is fat, lazy and doesn't care. He didn't really react to anything that happened here. He has millions in the bank and a full belly. Nothing anyone said about him mattered to him. The national media skewering him didn't matter to him. It's very different then Vick.
Just that he clearly made McNabb a better QB than he is as evidenced by his experience here.
cleg wrote:I have no tangible evidence but he would be a beast in Philly and it would be a disaster for the Redskins. It would make it even more difficult to live here during football season then it already is.
If his issue were anger and resentment this would make perfect sense. But since his issue has nconsistently been apathy it doesn't. What indication can you possibly point to that going to the Eagles is going to motivate him based on anything that's happened here and the complete failure of anything to motivate him?
Michael Vick. McNabb
Andy Reid can reach people and get the most of them.
I'm not sure I get your McNabb point, but I agree you have a point in Vick. Vick had issues though and needed discipline, but he was very motivated. Al is fat, lazy and doesn't care. He didn't really react to anything that happened here. He has millions in the bank and a full belly. Nothing anyone said about him mattered to him. The national media skewering him didn't matter to him. It's very different then Vick.
Just that he clearly made McNabb a better QB than he is as evidenced by his experience here.
He made A.J. Feely and Koy Detmer look like excellent QB's as well. There was an earlier post in a thread this year that said that Philly QB's might be system QB's. They do very well in Philly and flop everywhere else. I do get your point about what Andy Reid can do to not only motivate players but also game plan to the player's strendths. I guess that is why he has been around a long time. I always thought without Jim Johnson as DC, the Eagles would fall apart, they proved me worng. That says a lot of Andy. The big question is why only one Super Bowl appearance and no victories. Not an "ah ha" question but a scratching my head question.
Reid is a master motivator, seems to honestly care about his players and clearly gets the most of his players. But, after the first 15 scripted plays of the game is a terrible game day coach - that is why there has only been on Super Bowl. He cannot adjust on the fly, relies only on the pass when things get tight and still, after all these years, cannot manage the clock. These are the reasons the fans here in Philly are ready for him to go.
I hope they keep Andy Reid and add Albert Haynesworth
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
- this guy is not worth it and will hurt a defense more than he helps
