The plans are being developed

[chiefhog44]

With an uncertain labor situation last year and the amount of RFA's that had to stay with their respective teams last year, teams (including the Skins) really had to take the year off from rebuilding. Many executives acknowledged this. That's the reason this years free agent market will be so large.

With that said, as long as there is a new deal in place, this offseason will be huge. This offseason, IMO, will allow teams that have had years of misery to climb to the top and stay on top for some time, and those that have been at the top to slide back down to the cellar.

First off, I am extremely happy to have Bruce and Shanny here to navigate through this transition in the NFL.

But further, right this minute, as each of you read this, those two are working extremely hard from midnight to midnight, drafting the Redskins battle plans. Plans that will either push us to the front or set us back another ten years. I for one can't wait until they unveil those plans, because I trust in their direction. Can you think of a more daunting task then putting together something like that for this team and it's needs? Maybe putting the plans together for General Washington to cross the Mississippi, but not by much.

[Deadskins]

With an uncertain labor situation last year and the amount of RFA's that had to stay with their respective teams last year, teams (including the Skins) really had to take the year off from rebuilding. Many executives acknowledged this. That's the reason this years free agent market will be so large.

With that said, as long as there is a new deal in place, this offseason will be huge. This offseason, IMO, will allow teams that have had years of misery to climb to the top and stay on top for some time, and those that have been at the top to slide back down to the cellar.

First off, I am extremely happy to have Bruce and Shanny here to navigate through this transition in the NFL.

But further, right this minute, as each of you read this, those two are working extremely hard from midnight to midnight, drafting the Redskins battle plans. Plans that will either push us to the front or set us back another ten years. I for one can't wait until they unveil those plans, because I trust in their direction. Can you think of a more daunting task then putting together something like that for this team and it's needs? Maybe putting the plans together for General Washington to cross the Mississippi, but not by much.

Midnight to midnight?
Cross the Mississippi?

[SkinsJock]

no worries - I got the point and I agree, with a caveat


Hopefully the CBA happens sooner rather than later - I'm old fashioned - I want the draft after the free agency signings

I have faith in Bruce and Mike also but they had better do a lot better with this next year than they did with the last - if the FA market is as good as people think and these guys do not end up with a very young squad with a lot of upside by the end of the 2011 season, there will be changes

This FO did OK this season & we're better postioned with them BUT we cannot have more big mistakes in judgement like we have seen here, primarily, IMO, from Mike

[DarthMonk]

if the FA market is as good as people think and these guys do not end up with a very young squad with a lot of upside by the end of the 2011 season, there will be changes

I'd rather trade away all our picks since a #10 is fairly worthless and go 0-16 with a bunch of vets than get very young and have upside. It's the PRINCIPLE of the thing.



Just kidding.



DarthMonk

[skinsfan#33]

no worries - I got the point and I agree, with a caveat


Hopefully the CBA happens sooner rather than later - I'm old fashioned - I want the draft after the free agency signings

Not me! I think it makes more sense to draft before you have started filling holes. I don't care what anyone says, the holes left over after most of the FA are gone impacts how teams drafts, so someone might be tempted to reach on a pick to fill a hole because they know most chances of filling that hole with a quality player are gone after the draft.

So with all FA available after the draft you can just draft the best player and then use free agency to fill the holes that are left.

I think it makes much more sense to have FA after the draft!

I also would move the draft to early March. This would give teams less time to over think the draft. It is utterly ridiculous how much the drat boards change after college football ends. How can someone rise and fall and they haven't played another down.

Make the draft the first week in March and free agency start April first (A fitting date).

[KazooSkinsFan]

I think it makes much more sense to have FA after the draft!

Thank you, I've always thought this. In the draft, you don't really get to pick position, you have to take who falls to you. In FA you target the specific players you want and needs you have. It makes way more sense to me to do the draft first and then have FA so you can target your needs before the market is picked over.

[chiefhog44]

With an uncertain labor situation last year and the amount of RFA's that had to stay with their respective teams last year, teams (including the Skins) really had to take the year off from rebuilding. Many executives acknowledged this. That's the reason this years free agent market will be so large.

With that said, as long as there is a new deal in place, this offseason will be huge. This offseason, IMO, will allow teams that have had years of misery to climb to the top and stay on top for some time, and those that have been at the top to slide back down to the cellar.

First off, I am extremely happy to have Bruce and Shanny here to navigate through this transition in the NFL.

But further, right this minute, as each of you read this, those two are working extremely hard from midnight to midnight, drafting the Redskins battle plans. Plans that will either push us to the front or set us back another ten years. I for one can't wait until they unveil those plans, because I trust in their direction. Can you think of a more daunting task then putting together something like that for this team and it's needs? Maybe putting the plans together for General Washington to cross the Mississippi, but not by much.

Midnight to midnight?
Cross the Mississippi?

didn't he cross the Mississippi to take over the German's? Lighten up dude, I'm kidding. Points been made that these next four months are EXTREMELY important, and I can't wait.

[SkinsJock]

If it was better for football, I wonder why it's the other way around - but then, for us Aussies, everything is better upside down

I'll still prefer having the free agency before the draft - I also prefer my salad after the meal

[Snout]

Let's stop kidding ourselves that Allen and Shanahan have a plan. They are flying by the seat of their McPants. I do not "trust" them at all. They will make their share of mistakes, just as they already have. Maybe they will turn things around, maybe not. I don't think it's a question of trust -- I think it's a question of hope. I am optimistic, but I have been an optimist for the last 20 years.

[KazooSkinsFan]

Let's stop kidding ourselves that Allen and Shanahan have a plan. They are flying by the seat of their McPants. I do not "trust" them at all. They will make their share of mistakes, just as they already have. Maybe they will turn things around, maybe not. I don't think it's a question of trust -- I think it's a question of hope

Yes, they're stupid, Snyder is stupid, our players are stupid, our fans are stupid. We destroyed our relationship with AH who just loves the game of football, ruined McNabb's career. Our stadium sucks, the parking lot sucks, the seating sucks, the food sucks. Actually the food's not bad, strike that part. We couldn't beat a college team. Shannahan should retire. Snyder is too stupid to find a new coach so we should just shut down.

I am optimistic, but I have been an optimist for the last 20 years.

[SkinsJock]

Let's stop kidding ourselves that Allen and Shanahan have a plan. They are flying by the seat of their McPants. I do not "trust" them at all. They will make their share of mistakes, just as they already have. Maybe they will turn things around, maybe not. I don't think it's a question of trust -- I think it's a question of hope. I am optimistic, but I have been an optimist for the last 20 years.

why bother - about the franchise or even considering the possibilities here

do you think we would be better off if we'd kept on the path that Snyder has had this franchise heading toward?

we have seen Shanahan make a lot of mistakes and yet the franchise won 50% more games than it won before he got here and yet you don't "trust" them?

then you make the comment "I am optimistic ..... " SAY WHAT

[Kilmer72]

Ahh guys...I am only guessing but I think optimist wasn't the best word to use. I think hopeful would have been better but he did mention hope so...I sort of agree to a point but you guys know this already. I love my team I never quit but...They did make a bunch of mistakes and so far Allen does a lot of talking and never gets a question truly answered either.

I think we will be a better team next year but, I also am not going to think it will happen as soon as in 2 or 3 years. Way to many things to fix for that to happen.

It is going to be a long ride. Do not get to frustrated. By the time we are ready we will need to replace all the older guys that are still playing well.

Takes time. I will get frustrated myself if Shan gets fired after next year. It could happen. He did handle things well in some instances but in others he didn't, and it all depends on Snyder. Anyone that thinks Snyder isn't involved has really got to put themselves in his shoes. I would be if I was owner, but I also would let football people make the choices. If they fail then it is time to step in as owner and try to fix things. If he doesn't then he really is doomed as a failure.

[Redskin in Canada]

If these guys make 3 correct and 2 wrong FA decisions out of 5, we will still be better off than we were with Dumb and Dumber.

[SkinsJock]

As far as the Redskins franchise is concerned, Snyder has already failed

the ONLY involvement from Snyder so far has been that he's JUST the owner - but, we are far better off with these guys than with him taking over again

HOWEVER - we're going to see some more progress or we will see another change


hopefully these guys continue the progress - there's a lot of work to be done but every journey begins with 1 step and we are heading in the right direction under Allen & Shanahan

[Kilmer72]

As far as the Redskins franchise is concerned, Snyder has already failed

the ONLY involvement from Snyder so far has been that he's JUST the owner - but, we are far better off with these guys than with him taking over again

HOWEVER - we're going to see some more progress or we will see another change


hopefully these guys continue the progress - there's a lot of work to be done but every journey begins with 1 step and we are heading in the right direction under Allen & Shanahan

Exactly my point. The way I wanted it to be understood would have been... If Snyder gets involved at all, it has to be because these guys are doing a worse job than even he could. So, going by that, he isn't really out of it. He will step in if he truly wants everything to work. I just hope it doesn't come down to him.

[COLONEL KLINK]

I could not agree with your analysis of the current situation any more.....if these plans do not work out I will personally sign the orders to have them all sent to the Eastern Front!! And furthermore....oh never mind....

[chiefhog44]

welcome Colonel