I think I know what QB Shanny is after.

[chiefhog44]

Wait, I thought Arizona had Jake first and then Denver had him after? No?

They did. He had a QB rating in 2002 of like 56 and was cast off. Shannahan picked him up and made him into a pro bowl player

[Red_One43]

I don't know that anyone wanting ey moved could be considered a Redskins fan.

Wow! This is coming from a person who is pretty consistent on posting negative stuff about the Redskins.

[CanesSkins26]

I don't think locker or mallet will be available by the time we pick. I wouldn't mind waiting on qb until the second round. Maybe a guy like Andy Dalton and picking up a stud OL in the first or maybe a julio Jones. I just think the top 4 qbs will be gone by the time we pick

There is very little chance we're going OL in the first round because we don't need an LT and anywhere else it's a stretch pick. The only way is if a very good RT is available, but that's in the long shot category. People like tossing out the go OL in the first round w/o analyzing what they are saying. A receiver is definitely possible though. I'm hoping we get a good 3-4 DL or LB. But drafting for position is a mistake we're not likely to make as Shanny is smart enough to avoid that trap, so it really depends who's there.

i'm not suggesting we take another LT with our pick. we're not going to have a top ten pick. picking a great G or C with a pick in the teens is not all that obsurd. Iupati and pouncey were both picked in the teens. it's doesn't neccessarily have to be a RT. stefen wisniewski or rodney hudson could both be worth a mid round pick. to assume people don't analyze what they say because they make suggestions you don't agree with is a bit off base. my whole point was that our first round pick doesn't have to be taken on a qb. there will be good qbs available in the second round

Have you looked at this year's draft class? OL is extremely weak this year. It's highly probable that no offensive lineman, including a LT, will go in the top 10. That is EXTREMELY rare. Drafting an OL, unless we trade down, at our position in the draft would be monumentally stupid when this draft is heavy at positions of need, especially qb and wr.

[chiefhog44]

Let's look at this.
Carolina - Picked Clausen last year
Denver - Has Orton AND Tebow
Buffalo - Luck doesn't drop any further from here.
Cincinnati - Palmer started playing very well once those bozo's we're out doubt they pick anyone up here.
Arizona - Would they trade down for McNabb??? Very interesting.
Cleveland - Mccoy
San Fran - Still have to think Smith is in there now that Singletary is out
Tenn - Owner wants Young
Dallas - Homo
Washington - Looking at a full deck of QB's at this position minue Luck. Could we trade up with Arizona for Mcnabb and #11, then up to 3 with Buffalo? Anybody know what the point's needed to trade from 5 to 3?

[Red_One43]

Let's look at this.
Carolina - Picked Clausen last year
Denver - Has Orton AND Tebow
Buffalo - Luck doesn't drop any further from here.
Cincinnati - Palmer started playing very well once those bozo's we're out doubt they pick anyone up here.
Arizona - Would they trade down for McNabb??? Very interesting.
Cleveland - Mccoy
San Fran - Still have to think Smith is in there now that Singletary is out
Tenn - Owner wants Young
Dallas - Homo
Washington - Looking at a full deck of QB's at this position minue Luck. Could we trade up with Arizona for Mcnabb and #11, then up to 3 with Buffalo? Anybody know what the point's needed to trade from 5 to 3?

If the Cards think that Skelton is the QB of their future then it is plausible that the Cards could trade down in a trade that would include McNabb with McNabb holding the reins for Skelton, but I have no idea hwo they felt about Skelton's evaluation; however from what you posted it seems very likely that the QB Shanny wants might be available.

[chiefhog44]

Let's look at this.
Carolina - Picked Clausen last year
Denver - Has Orton AND Tebow
Buffalo - Luck doesn't drop any further from here.
Cincinnati - Palmer started playing very well once those bozo's we're out doubt they pick anyone up here.
Arizona - Would they trade down for McNabb??? Very interesting.
Cleveland - Mccoy
San Fran - Still have to think Smith is in there now that Singletary is out
Tenn - Owner wants Young
Dallas - Homo
Washington - Looking at a full deck of QB's at this position minue Luck. Could we trade up with Arizona for Mcnabb and #11, then up to 3 with Buffalo? Anybody know what the point's needed to trade from 5 to 3?

If the Cards think that Skelton is the QB of their future then it is plausible that the Cards could trade down in a trade that would include McNabb with McNabb holding the reins for Skelton, but I have no idea hwo they felt about Skelton's evaluation; however from what you posted it seems very likely that the QB Shanny wants might be available.

Hell, I think it's plausable now that Seattle won, that we could reach Luck

[frankcal20]

Clausen has proven that he's not that good of a QB. If Carolina has the 1st pick, they're going to trade out or pick Luck.

1st off - the city will 100% revolt if they don't.
#2 - with a new coach, he's going to want a starting calaber QB starting and Clausen isn't it.

[GoSkins]

There are rumors that Arizona is interested in McNabb. With the Redskins picking 10th it does make sense to trade McNabb and move up to Arizona's spot which is #5. So which QB does Shanny want? Well, he has to be smart, accurate and mobile. That means Mallett and Newton are probably out. Can Shanny still move up to 1 and get Luck? That would be the coups of the century. I also think we will trade Haynesworth and hopefully get a 3rd.

[chiefhog44]

There are rumors that Arizona is interested in McNabb. With the Redskins picking 10th it does make sense to trade McNabb and move up to Arizona's spot which is #5. So which QB does Shanny want? Well, he has to be smart, accurate and mobile. That means Mallett and Newton are probably out. Can Shanny still move up to 1 and get Luck? That would be the coups of the century. I also think we will trade Haynesworth and hopefully get a 3rd.

I am ALL for mortgaging the furture for Luck RIGHT NOW. Sell the farm, give Arizona Mcnabb and #10 for their pick at 5. Then give Carolina whatever they want for Luck... Haynesworth, Carter, ey and a couple other draft picks. What are the points needed for trading draft picks to move from 5 to 1? We can get the rest of our needs in a HUGE free agency pool this year. sorry but this guy could be the answer. Ahhh I said could be, but what are we really trading away? A bunch of guys who don't fit our scheme and lower percentage could be's. I'll roll the dice bia$ch

[KazooSkinsFan]

I am ALL for mortgaging the furture for Luck RIGHT NOW. Sell the farm, give Arizona Mcnabb and #10 for their pick at 5. Then give Carolina whatever they want for Luck... Haynesworth, Carter, ey and a couple other draft picks. What are the points needed for trading draft picks to move from 5 to 1? We can get the rest of our needs in a HUGE free agency pool this year. sorry but this guy could be the answer. Ahhh I said could be, but what are we really trading away? A bunch of guys who don't fit our scheme and lower percentage could be's. I'll roll the dice bia$ch

Man, we have so many needs to give away everything we have left to get one guy doesn't seem like a good idea to me. And college QB's are so hard to predict. If he ends up being an Alex Smith or a Heath Schuler we're totally screwed. And if he's Peyton Manning he doesn't have a team.

[TCIYM]

Man, we have so many needs to give away everything we have left to get one guy doesn't seem like a good idea to me. And college QB's are so hard to predict. If he ends up being an Alex Smith or a Heath Schuler we're totally screwed. And if he's Peyton Manning he doesn't have a team.

This.

[TCIYM]

@RossTuckerNFL: I spoke with well-placed NFL source who is higher on Ryan Mallett than Andrew Luck. Said Luck has "very average" NFL arm.

[chiefhog44]

I am ALL for mortgaging the furture for Luck RIGHT NOW. Sell the farm, give Arizona Mcnabb and #10 for their pick at 5. Then give Carolina whatever they want for Luck... Haynesworth, Carter, ey and a couple other draft picks. What are the points needed for trading draft picks to move from 5 to 1? We can get the rest of our needs in a HUGE free agency pool this year. sorry but this guy could be the answer. Ahhh I said could be, but what are we really trading away? A bunch of guys who don't fit our scheme and lower percentage could be's. I'll roll the dice bia$ch

Man, we have so many needs to give away everything we have left to get one guy doesn't seem like a good idea to me. And college QB's are so hard to predict. If he ends up being an Alex Smith or a Heath Schuler we're totally screwed. And if he's Peyton Manning he doesn't have a team.

Neither did Peyton Manning when he came out, and the jury is still out on Alex Smith.

I'm not sure that you could call Norv Turner a good evaluation of QB talent considering he's never drafted a QB in the 3rd or higher rounds as a head coach that has not been a bust, not to mention that Norv Turner sucks my ass.
Heath Shuler
Andrew Walter

A look at Shannahans...
Brian Griese
Jay Cutler

Just a vote of confidence that Shannahan knows QB's

[chiefhog44]

There are rumors that Arizona is interested in McNabb. With the Redskins picking 10th it does make sense to trade McNabb and move up to Arizona's spot which is #5. So which QB does Shanny want? Well, he has to be smart, accurate and mobile. That means Mallett and Newton are probably out. Can Shanny still move up to 1 and get Luck? That would be the coups of the century. I also think we will trade Haynesworth and hopefully get a 3rd.

I am ALL for mortgaging the furture for Luck RIGHT NOW. Sell the farm, give Arizona Mcnabb and #10 for their pick at 5. Then give Carolina whatever they want for Luck... Haynesworth, Carter, ey and a couple other draft picks. What are the points needed for trading draft picks to move from 5 to 1? We can get the rest of our needs in a HUGE free agency pool this year. sorry but this guy could be the answer. Ahhh I said could be, but what are we really trading away? A bunch of guys who don't fit our scheme and lower percentage could be's. I'll roll the dice bia$ch

I just found the answer to the point system question. We're not getting Luck.

[Skinsfan55]

The word was that before he decided to stay for his senior season Shanahan was very impressed with Jake Locker. I still think he's the guy we're looking at next season. Why wouldn't Carolina take Andrew Luck anyway? They have a good line, a decent running game... it's a good situation for a young QB.

[Countertrey]

The word was that before he decided to stay for his senior season Shanahan was very impressed with Jake Locker. I still think he's the guy we're looking at next season. Why wouldn't Carolina take Andrew Luck anyway? They have a good line, a decent running game... it's a good situation for a young QB.

... AND a new head coach... who will want to pick his own quarterback... My bet is they'll take Luck...

[VetSkinsFan]

Clausen has proven that he's not that good of a QB. If Carolina has the 1st pick, they're going to trade out or pick Luck.

1st off - the city will 100% revolt if they don't.
#2 - with a new coach, he's going to want a starting calaber QB starting and Clausen isn't it.

Carloline was incredibly bad this year, and it wasn't all on the play of the QB. I don't think any QB could have succeeded in that place last year.

[GoSkins]

I hope Shanny is leaning to taking a QB in the draft. Who is the big question. I expect Grossman will start and the new QB will be his understudy. Hopefully the new QB will be starting at some point in his rookie season.

[GoSkins]

From watching last night's game and reading today's reports, it looks like Andrew Luck has solidified his position in the upcoming draft as the #1 pick.

[Red_One43]

Mallett is looking pretty good despite all the drops.

[Red_One43]

No way Mallett gets past Arizona in the Draft.

[Redskins_Fanatic]

I have LESS THAN ZERO interest in seeing Ryan Mallet in Burgundy and Gold. Not that I think he'll be there at #10, since I believe Carolina, Arizona, San Francisco, and Buffalo will ALL be looking very hard at QB's and probably at least two or three of them make that their top priority in the draft.

[DarthMonk]

double posted

[DarthMonk]

BUT, since he is ranked at least the 3rd best QB, do you think that he will be around by the time we pick?

Really I was thinking Luck Newton, Locker, then Ryan Mallet.

Would love to get Marcell Dareus but he'll probably be gone.

How about Cameron Jordan fromm California? Ideally we could trade our 1 for a later 1 and something else and get this guy (or someone like him, i.e., a starter at a position of need) if someone wants our 1.

DarthMonk

[Redskins_Fanatic]

BUT, since he is ranked at least the 3rd best QB, do you think that he will be around by the time we pick?

Nope. There is probably not going to be any QB I would want available at the #10 spot, and we have both too many needs and not enough picks to even consider moving up at all.

Would love to get Marcell Dareus but he'll probably be gone.

How about Cameron Jordan fromm California? Ideally we could trade our 1 for a later 1 and something else and get this guy (or someone like him, i.e., a starter at a position of need) if someone wants our 1.

Dareus will be gone before we pick.

I'm not a big fan of Jordan. He seems like an average to above average guy. I've read he's kind of a clown in the locker room (something I despise), and he was suspended for a game in 2008 for DUI (another thing I have no use for). MAYBE I could see taking him in the bottom 5 picks of the first round, or in the second round, but I wouldn't want him any higher than that (if at all).



Unfortunately I don't know if there even IS a decent option for us at the #10 spot.....

There won't be a QB I like there. There are no 3-4 type NT's or DE's worthy of the pick. You don't even CONSIDER interior OL's that high. That takes most of our immediate, top-end needs off the board. Do we reach and fill a hole at LB, CB, or WR there? I kind of hope not. For the first time in history, I'm kind of hoping we TRADE DOWN. Hopefully multiple times, to get down into the bottom portion of the First Round (#25-32), pick up a couple more picks in the second/third rounds. At least that way I can ignore the draft entirely until the Monday after and have absolutely no expectations that anyone we select will turn out to be even a moderately decent player.