Grossman Starting Sunday vs Dallas

[1niksder]

And the point? We can't even get value out of a 2 ... so what can we get for a 6th? What have we done with 6th rounders?

I keep going back to the fact that McNabb is the 2nd most sacked QB in the league .. and this team for most of the season had NO RUNNING GAME at all .... and a defense that was giving up a mile of yardage ... and they want to put the blame on McNabb?

Guess what ... the Texans are doing just fine without the Genius Boy running their offense ... in fact, they are more balanced between run and pass ... and a fraction of a point better per game.

So we have the coach's son, without a real proven track record, and McNabb that has a solid track record ... and after 13 games, they've seen enough of McNabb? The evaluation is over?

Shanny is saying McNabb may still be the QB next year but he won't know until he sees what he has with the other guys and what the draft looks like. I think it would be dumb not to take this approach

[Redskins_Fanatic]

Shanny is saying McNabb may still be the QB next year but he won't know until he sees what he has with the other guys and what the draft looks like. I think it would be dumb not to take this approach

I totally agree. I don't care who a player is, what their reputation is, etc... NOBODY on this team should be guaranteed of ANYTHING next year at this point. Nobody on ANY 5-11 team should expect that they're guaranteed of ANYTHING going forward at the end of the season. Not a coach, not a player, NOBODY.

[TCIYM]

Shanny is saying McNabb may still be the QB next year but he won't know until he sees what he has with the other guys and what the draft looks like. I think it would be dumb not to take this approach

I agree. The interview made it sound a lot different than the media is making it sound.

[frankcal20]

Pretty much what I took from the interview is that the team is basically hanging up the rest of the season and going to basically evaluate talent from here on out. Granth Paulsen just said that this is not just going to be a QB thing. They are going to be playing a lot of guys who wouldn't normally get game time if we were still in the playoff hunt. Used Perry Riley as an example.

[1niksder]

Shanahan on ESPN980 

"Rex has earned an opportunity to start. I'm looking forward to him playing." 

"I want to get a good feel for what these guys can do." Says McNabb "has done a bunch of good things."

"The reason why I am doing it is because we are not in the playoff hunt."

"same gameplan" and says he told McNabb "I like what you have done after the first half of the season"

"The one thing your always working with a QB is his steps. I've never seen a physical speciment in the NFL like Donovan."

"What we usually do is we take a look at positions that have competition. You have to earn the right."

[frankcal20]

ey on 106.7:

* Everyone needs to chill out. No one is going anywhere.
* We're out of the playoffs so we might as well see what we've got on this team.
* ey says he wants to play but if Logan or any other TE catches 6-7 catches Sunday is great.
* Haven't scored much points, haven't done much offensively but might as well see what Rex can do in 3 weeks. Good opportunity and it's not the end of the world.
* ey feels very good about what they have in place going forward.
* ey's confident in Rex this Sunday. A lot of other things need to happen for the Skins to be successful regardless of who's back there.
* Rex is NOT a better scrambler than DMac.
* He gets our frustration and care's a ton for us. They are frustrated as players.
* When you sign a QB in offseason you want it to work but a lot was out of dmac's control.

[spudstr04]

Cooley on 106.7:

* Everyone needs to chill out. No one is going anywhere.
* We're out of the playoffs so we might as well see what we've got on this team.
* ey says he wants to play but if Logan or any other TE catches 6-7 catches Sunday is great.
* Haven't scored much points, haven't done much offensively but might as well see what Rex can do in 3 weeks. Good opportunity and it's not the end of the world.
* ey feels very good about what they have in place going forward.
* ey's confident in Rex this Sunday. A lot of other things need to happen for the Skins to be successful regardless of who's back there.
* Rex is NOT a better scrambler than DMac.
* He gets our frustration and care's a ton for us. They are frustrated as players.
* When you sign a QB in offseason you want it to work but a lot was out of dmac's control.

Love ey and love this perspective, if one of the team leaders in saying this, then the locker room will be fine.

[frankcal20]

I think a lot of them realize that there's going to be a big change next year. Say what you want but a lot of those guys have worked their butt off only to lose - once again.

[grampi]

What's the difference at this point? The season is a bust (again), and we aren't winning with McDrabb, so really, what have we got to lose by starting Grossman? What's the worst that can happen, we lose?

[RayNAustin]

And the point? We can't even get value out of a 2 ... so what can we get for a 6th? What have we done with 6th rounders?

I keep going back to the fact that McNabb is the 2nd most sacked QB in the league .. and this team for most of the season had NO RUNNING GAME at all .... and a defense that was giving up a mile of yardage ... and they want to put the blame on McNabb?

Guess what ... the Texans are doing just fine without the Genius Boy running their offense ... in fact, they are more balanced between run and pass ... and a fraction of a point better per game.

So we have the coach's son, without a real proven track record, and McNabb that has a solid track record ... and after 13 games, they've seen enough of McNabb? The evaluation is over?

Shanny is saying McNabb may still be the QB next year but he won't know until he sees what he has with the other guys and what the draft looks like. I think it would be dumb not to take this approach

I listened to the interview on the Thompson show.

In less politically expedient terms ... Shanahan said " I don't know ... maybe Grossman sucks and Beck sucks too ... in that case, we might keep McNabb if he's our only option."

That's basically what he said, and that is not an endorsement, nor would I expect McNabb to be willing to be the Redskin's last resort for the prom. It's not like there won't be 2-3 teams that would love to have him.

[1niksder]

It's not like there won't be 2-3 teams that would love to have him.

If they want him they'll have to pay for him

[frankcal20]

I think they would based off of the list of free agent QB's that are out there. Now I don't think we'll recoup what we gave up by any means but we've got to get younger quick and add some talent on this team. They won't say it but I will - We're REBUILDING!!!

[ATX_Skins]

What's the difference at this point? The season is a bust (again), and we aren't winning with McDrabb, so really, what have we got to lose by starting Grossman? What's the worst that can happen, we lose?

Yeah, I mean who cares about losing to Dallas or finishing dead last in the division... Screw it, just forfeit right?

Evaluating talent is another term for padding your draft pick, I don't like it one bit.

[Countertrey]

None of this makes any sense to me. This is either the creative, outside-the-box, work of a football genius...

or the foolish tinkering of a rank amateur who's mind is on it's way to Capistrano...

I'm scared. I need a blanket.

[ATX_Skins]

Cooley on 106.7:

* Everyone needs to chill out. No one is going anywhere.
* We're out of the playoffs so we might as well see what we've got on this team.
* ey says he wants to play but if Logan or any other TE catches 6-7 catches Sunday is great.
* Haven't scored much points, haven't done much offensively but might as well see what Rex can do in 3 weeks. Good opportunity and it's not the end of the world.
* ey feels very good about what they have in place going forward.
* ey's confident in Rex this Sunday. A lot of other things need to happen for the Skins to be successful regardless of who's back there.
* Rex is NOT a better scrambler than DMac.
* He gets our frustration and care's a ton for us. They are frustrated as players.
* When you sign a QB in offseason you want it to work but a lot was out of dmac's control.

I see ey is taking divisional games seriously...

[RayNAustin]

I think they would based off of the list of free agent QB's that are out there. Now I don't think we'll recoup what we gave up by any means but we've got to get younger quick and add some talent on this team. They won't say it but I will - We're REBUILDING!!!

I agree ... and that's what scares me the most.

Larry Johnson, Willie Parker, Roydell Williams, Joey Galloway .... explain that in the "rebuilding process" ?

You keep Williams, and cut Devon Thomas (who at least played ST), You cut Brandon Banks and LUCKY to get him back ..... "Rebuilding" ?

We already had Grossman signed before trading for McNabb ... 2 picks for him? And that is "Rebuilding"?

You have no viable nose tackle to run a 34, plus two DE's that aren't viable OLB for a 34 but you do it anyway? And poke Fat Albert in the eye every chance you get?

This isn't rebuilding ... this is uncontrolled demolition similar to what Denver allowed McDaniels to do for 1 1/2 years before firing him.

So I say ... if this is their version of rebuilding ..... then you'd better hope that December 21, 2012 isn't the end of the world, or you might as well start watching the Nationals strike out.

[frankcal20]

I think that they did try to win now going into the season but after the failure of that, I think they will try to rebuild while being competitive. I don't think Danny will allow them to fully rebuild. If we do, I'll be shocked as hell but I doubt it.

That's my only reasoning behind all the older vet's that were in earlier in the year. I

[JansenFan]

Some people are happy...

[Countertrey]

Shanny needs to read this... Here's a clue for you, sir...

[gushogs]

WHY does this happen on Dallas week????????
This turds haven´t learned anything yet?

[Countertrey]

There's the question, gus...

[1niksder]

I agree ... and that's what scares me the most.

Larry Johnson, Willie Parker, Roydell Williams, Joey Galloway .... explain that in the "rebuilding process" ?

Willie Parker never made the roster and Williams is the only one left. Johnson was only here long enough Torrain to heal. Joey Galloway I still don't know what the thought process was on that one

You keep Williams, and cut Devon Thomas (who at least played ST), You cut Brandon Banks and LUCKY to get him back ..... "Rebuilding" ?

And what has Thomas done as a WR since he has been cut? Banks wasn't going to be picked up by anyone.

We already had Grossman signed before trading for McNabb ... 2 picks for him? And that is "Rebuilding"?

Grossman wasn't brought in to start

You have no viable nose tackle to run a 34, plus two DE's that aren't viable OLB for a 34 but you do it anyway? And poke Fat Albert in the eye every chance you get?

It's the first year of a scheme change and one DE has been moved back to DE. Albert should have did his job.

This isn't rebuilding ... this is uncontrolled demolition similar to what Denver allowed McDaniels to do for 1 1/2 years before firing him.

Shanny didn't have any highly skilled players to trade off and firing Shanny would be Marty all over again

[skinpride1]

Am I the only one out there that doesn't mind Shanny sitting Mcnabb out?

I think it's more to this than everyone thinks.

Mcnabb has been battling injuries all season long and throwing interceptions. I also think Shanny has been pissed at Mcnabb ever since the Lions game and that was a bonehead interception late in the game.

I also think he is tired of Danny boy handing out the big contracts and I still think he did not advise for the Mcnabb extension it was Danny Boy!!!!

I think Shanny is making a point to Mighty Mouse that He and Bruce are running the show and please stop meddling in there affairs.

I noticed that Gibbs was sitting in the box the last game with Danny Boy and I bet you anything he was telling Munchin to have faith in Shanny and let this work out.

Who cares about the locker room being pissed right now. How good have those bums played the last five games????Not real good.

After reading this I don't think Mcnabb will be back next year.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... _headlines


I don't know maybe Shanny knows something about the Q.b. position that we don't maybe he already has plans for our next Q.b. or maybe he just realizes he screwed up signing all these Vets at the start of the season and it's time to just get some youth on this team.

Time to start shaping this organization up!!! and stepping on toes is part of it sometimes.

Clean house and get the Bums out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[skinpride1]

My take on Rex today .... Good game manager Q.b. doesn't have the big arm like Mcnabb but more accurate on the short, med routes. However he also had the turnovers just like Mcnabb.

Rex is a very good back up q.b. but think there should be a better Q.b. out there for the skins to start.

Shanny doesn't look so foolish now for sitting Mcnabb.

I think he really just wants to evaluate the Q.b position and see how another Q.b. looked in the system.

[Bdot]

My take on Rex today .... Good game manager Q.b.

Rex is a good game-manager... if by "manager" you mean managing to throw games away given enough time to do so.. Nice game today, Rexie. Anytime the Cowboys sent an extra man we got to him and swiped our ATM card. Out popped a turnover. Love Rexie. keep him, Coach mike. I mean, ask your son if you're allowed to keep him, Mike. Because we know you're not the head coach - you just sit in your scrawny son's lap like the puppet dummy that you are.