The Hogster wrote:No excuses but wasn't he only late for 1 minute? When your defense is ranked a$$ la$t how do you keep doing this??
SO much for putting our best chance to win. Another lie by our head coach.PulpExposure wrote:chiefhog44 wrote:Big supporter once? You make it sounds like that was eon's ago. What, your view has changed from two months ago? Talk about short sighted. Shannahan hasn't even been here for a full season. Ah whatever. I don't care to tell you the truth. If you don't support him anymore, that's fine by me. Let's get another coach in here this offseason, and blow it up again.
I guess I believe, as most football people do, that Shanny and Bruce are the right people and they need time. I guess I want this to work, because I think this may be the last stop for me, and I'm guessing for many other fans as well.
The time from when they were hired to now does seem like eons ago. My issue is that this team is not even competitive anymore. 2 of the past 3 games, the Skins have been absolutely torched by NFC East opponents. This team lacks talent throughout the roster; can you name a position that you would consider a position of strength (besides perhaps TE)?
More problematic, I'm not sure that's something that will be rectified. The Skins, as always, do not have a full draft next year to help rebuild. More damning, the evidence to date shows that the acquisitions that Shanahan and Allen have made are not positive. They've made trades that have robbed the team of important draft picks, yet have yielded very little in return. The free agent pickups they made were wastes of money and time. And the trades (for draft picks) and pickups show that Shanahan isn't interested in fixing this thing from the get-go; he wants to win, and win now (else why would you trade 2 very valuable picks for a 34 year old QB)?
And the talent we have isn't fitting in the systems that Shanahan has chosen to run. The 3-4 has been a disaster here; and on offense, it's not much better. The zone blocking system is the no-zone blocking system; the offensive line is giving up more sacks than last year, and the Redskins cannot muster even a mediocre running game. To me, one hallmark of a good coach is adaptability; when the talent doesn't fit the system, you fit the system to the talent. That's just not happening here.
I'm struggling to think of a positive; what evidence do you have that Shanahan is working out here at all? It's not like this team is getting better (as it did under Schottenheimer). It's getting worse. And it's not as if they're using this time to groom young players...as the Redskins essentially have none.
Please, tell me why I should remain optimistic about Shanahan, where to my eyes, nothing he has done to date has worked out.
ey, I don't think our receivers are doing to bad. They are getting open most of the time but they can't catch these days. Moss can't and even ey is dropping them but, some of those throws are like one handed type of catches.
PulpExposure wrote:chiefhog44 wrote:Big supporter once? You make it sounds like that was eon's ago. What, your view has changed from two months ago? Talk about short sighted. Shannahan hasn't even been here for a full season. Ah whatever. I don't care to tell you the truth. If you don't support him anymore, that's fine by me. Let's get another coach in here this offseason, and blow it up again.
I guess I believe, as most football people do, that Shanny and Bruce are the right people and they need time. I guess I want this to work, because I think this may be the last stop for me, and I'm guessing for many other fans as well.
The time from when they were hired to now does seem like eons ago. My issue is that this team is not even competitive anymore. 2 of the past 3 games, the Skins have been absolutely torched by NFC East opponents. This team lacks talent throughout the roster; can you name a position that you would consider a position of strength (besides perhaps TE)?
More problematic, I'm not sure that's something that will be rectified. The Skins, as always, do not have a full draft next year to help rebuild. More damning, the evidence to date shows that the acquisitions that Shanahan and Allen have made are not positive. They've made trades that have robbed the team of important draft picks, yet have yielded very little in return. The free agent pickups they made were wastes of money and time. And the trades (for draft picks) and pickups show that Shanahan isn't interested in fixing this thing from the get-go; he wants to win, and win now (else why would you trade 2 very valuable picks for a 34 year old QB)?
And the talent we have isn't fitting in the systems that Shanahan has chosen to run. The 3-4 has been a disaster here; and on offense, it's not much better. The zone blocking system is the no-zone blocking system; the offensive line is giving up more sacks than last year, and the Redskins cannot muster even a mediocre running game. To me, one hallmark of a good coach is adaptability; when the talent doesn't fit the system, you fit the system to the talent. That's just not happening here.
I'm struggling to think of a positive; what evidence do you have that Shanahan is working out here at all? It's not like this team is getting better (as it did under Schottenheimer). It's getting worse. And it's not as if they're using this time to groom young players...as the Redskins essentially have none.
Please, tell me why I should remain optimistic about Shanahan, where to my eyes, nothing he has done to date has worked out.
chiefhog44 wrote:PulpExposure wrote:chiefhog44 wrote:Big supporter once? You make it sounds like that was eon's ago. What, your view has changed from two months ago? Talk about short sighted. Shannahan hasn't even been here for a full season. Ah whatever. I don't care to tell you the truth. If you don't support him anymore, that's fine by me. Let's get another coach in here this offseason, and blow it up again.
I guess I believe, as most football people do, that Shanny and Bruce are the right people and they need time. I guess I want this to work, because I think this may be the last stop for me, and I'm guessing for many other fans as well.
The time from when they were hired to now does seem like eons ago. My issue is that this team is not even competitive anymore. 2 of the past 3 games, the Skins have been absolutely torched by NFC East opponents. This team lacks talent throughout the roster; can you name a position that you would consider a position of strength (besides perhaps TE)?
More problematic, I'm not sure that's something that will be rectified. The Skins, as always, do not have a full draft next year to help rebuild. More damning, the evidence to date shows that the acquisitions that Shanahan and Allen have made are not positive. They've made trades that have robbed the team of important draft picks, yet have yielded very little in return. The free agent pickups they made were wastes of money and time. And the trades (for draft picks) and pickups show that Shanahan isn't interested in fixing this thing from the get-go; he wants to win, and win now (else why would you trade 2 very valuable picks for a 34 year old QB)?
And the talent we have isn't fitting in the systems that Shanahan has chosen to run. The 3-4 has been a disaster here; and on offense, it's not much better. The zone blocking system is the no-zone blocking system; the offensive line is giving up more sacks than last year, and the Redskins cannot muster even a mediocre running game. To me, one hallmark of a good coach is adaptability; when the talent doesn't fit the system, you fit the system to the talent. That's just not happening here.
I'm struggling to think of a positive; what evidence do you have that Shanahan is working out here at all? It's not like this team is getting better (as it did under Schottenheimer). It's getting worse. And it's not as if they're using this time to groom young players...as the Redskins essentially have none.
Please, tell me why I should remain optimistic about Shanahan, where to my eyes, nothing he has done to date has worked out.
First off, I'm not asking you to remain positive about shannahan, just asking you and other unrealitic fans to be a bit more realistic about to state of afairs with this team. We suck. We sucked 11 months ago when you and others were thinking we were going to the playoffs and were optimistic. We don't have any talent nor depth. This is 17 years in the making that you are going to blame Shannahan for? Please. He had barely an offseason and all of a sudden we have a decent receiver in Armstrong, a LT in Williams, a probowl Qb in McNabb, and a killer returner BB. And we may have something with Torain, Williams, and Davis. No one could overhaul the entire roster in this short of a time. Add 4-5 guys like this a year, and there you have it. A 3-4 year turnaround.
The greatest thing that Shannahan has done this year is to hold players accountable. The best player plays...period.
I agree, with coaches who come into a good roster (like Tomlin did with the Steelers) you adjust your scheme to fit the players, but why would any coach want to fit a successful system with crap talent? It's still going to be crap. Why not take the opportunity to start implementing a successful scheme. You don't know how many draft picks we have yet for next year until after the draft takes place. There could be trades even on the day of.
If you want to argue about picking up Mcnabb, that's fine, but I'm not convinced that was a bad move yet. It's too soon to tell. But to say you used to be optimistic 11 months ago and now you are not, because our running game sucks for instance, well did you ever realize that this is like our 15th running back to date? Or about the passing game, we have a crap O-line, what do you expect? Or our defense, we are switching schemes and replacing that so called 5th ranked D. I hated that defense. We were DEAD last in turnovers with 17!!!! 17 f-ing turnovers. That is PATHETIC! Did you seriously think we were going to win even 8 games with this roster? That's your fault, not any coach.
Red_One43 wrote:It is not about 1 minute. It is about setting a standard and developing a culture for your team. Ask Tom Coughlin about it. He went 6-10 his first season and in a couple of years, he not only wins a Super Bowl but knocks off the undefeated Patriots. People laughed at him, but look how quickly he turned the Giants around. Those of you who Haynesworth would have made a difference today, check out the Philly Monday night game. Check out the Dallas game when we had Dallas penned on their goal line. Oh yeah, when he was playing the pee wee O linemen of the bears, he was awesome. The Giants O line aren't pee wees. One more check him out against the Vikings. Making one or two plays does not win games for you. If you got a 21 million dollar bonus, you should be wreaking havoc - oh, that is only in a contract year. Good Riddence!
Kilmer72 wrote:Red_One43 wrote:It is not about 1 minute. It is about setting a standard and developing a culture for your team. Ask Tom Coughlin about it. He went 6-10 his first season and in a couple of years, he not only wins a Super Bowl but knocks off the undefeated Patriots. People laughed at him, but look how quickly he turned the Giants around. Those of you who Haynesworth would have made a difference today, check out the Philly Monday night game. Check out the Dallas game when we had Dallas penned on their goal line. Oh yeah, when he was playing the pee wee O linemen of the bears, he was awesome. The Giants O line aren't pee wees. One more check him out against the Vikings. Making one or two plays does not win games for you. If you got a 21 million dollar bonus, you should be wreaking havoc - oh, that is only in a contract year. Good Riddence!
True, but when you have someone that can make a few plays and you are paying him shouldn't he be there. Who made plays today on our line?
Red_One43 wrote:Kilmer72 wrote:Red_One43 wrote:It is not about 1 minute. It is about setting a standard and developing a culture for your team. Ask Tom Coughlin about it. He went 6-10 his first season and in a couple of years, he not only wins a Super Bowl but knocks off the undefeated Patriots. People laughed at him, but look how quickly he turned the Giants around. Those of you who Haynesworth would have made a difference today, check out the Philly Monday night game. Check out the Dallas game when we had Dallas penned on their goal line. Oh yeah, when he was playing the pee wee O linemen of the bears, he was awesome. The Giants O line aren't pee wees. One more check him out against the Vikings. Making one or two plays does not win games for you. If you got a 21 million dollar bonus, you should be wreaking havoc - oh, that is only in a contract year. Good Riddence!
True, but when you have someone that can make a few plays and you are paying him shouldn't he be there. Who made plays today on our line?
What's more important? Setting the tone for the team or letting a Diva like Haynesworth get an inch and take a mile. Shanahan has long since sent notice to the team - no one is above the team especially high paid divas. Have you forgotten that with Haynesworth playing last year in the 4-3 teams like the lions ran all over us. This team isn't very good. Let's follow the example of the Giants, Pats, Colts and Steelers and become a no Diva team. We may go 6-10 the FIRST year of Shanny like Coughlin, but the rewards are more promising in the future.
welch wrote:It looks like this is the season when Shanahan throws away the players who don't fit. Gibbs did the same thing the first season back, and the team went 6 - 10. They went to the playoffs the second year.
Haynesworth is a talented guy who harms the team. He'll be gone.
RayNAustin wrote:welch wrote:It looks like this is the season when Shanahan throws away the players who don't fit. Gibbs did the same thing the first season back, and the team went 6 - 10. They went to the playoffs the second year.
Haynesworth is a talented guy who harms the team. He'll be gone.
They also had a top 5 defense that year ...
This team has been the most disappointing of them all ... the Gurus are charlatans if you ask me ....
Season on the line, and Shanahan can't stop his personal vendetta against Haynesworth .... he's a freaking ego maniac ... so he hurst the team to make a point? And what is the POINT exactly? You don't need to win, just obey? Toe the line?
I think he's a fraud ... and his son.
RayNAustin wrote:This team has been the most disappointing of them all ... the Gurus are charlatans if you ask me ....
Season on the line, and Shanahan can't stop his personal vendetta against Haynesworth .... he's a freaking ego maniac ... so he hurst the team to make a point? And what is the POINT exactly? You don't need to win, just obey? Toe the line?
I think he's a fraud ... and his son.
chiefhog44 wrote:PulpExposure wrote:chiefhog44 wrote:Big supporter once? You make it sounds like that was eon's ago. What, your view has changed from two months ago? Talk about short sighted. Shannahan hasn't even been here for a full season. Ah whatever. I don't care to tell you the truth. If you don't support him anymore, that's fine by me. Let's get another coach in here this offseason, and blow it up again.
I guess I believe, as most football people do, that Shanny and Bruce are the right people and they need time. I guess I want this to work, because I think this may be the last stop for me, and I'm guessing for many other fans as well.
The time from when they were hired to now does seem like eons ago. My issue is that this team is not even competitive anymore. 2 of the past 3 games, the Skins have been absolutely torched by NFC East opponents. This team lacks talent throughout the roster; can you name a position that you would consider a position of strength (besides perhaps TE)?
More problematic, I'm not sure that's something that will be rectified. The Skins, as always, do not have a full draft next year to help rebuild. More damning, the evidence to date shows that the acquisitions that Shanahan and Allen have made are not positive. They've made trades that have robbed the team of important draft picks, yet have yielded very little in return. The free agent pickups they made were wastes of money and time. And the trades (for draft picks) and pickups show that Shanahan isn't interested in fixing this thing from the get-go; he wants to win, and win now (else why would you trade 2 very valuable picks for a 34 year old QB)?
And the talent we have isn't fitting in the systems that Shanahan has chosen to run. The 3-4 has been a disaster here; and on offense, it's not much better. The zone blocking system is the no-zone blocking system; the offensive line is giving up more sacks than last year, and the Redskins cannot muster even a mediocre running game. To me, one hallmark of a good coach is adaptability; when the talent doesn't fit the system, you fit the system to the talent. That's just not happening here.
I'm struggling to think of a positive; what evidence do you have that Shanahan is working out here at all? It's not like this team is getting better (as it did under Schottenheimer). It's getting worse. And it's not as if they're using this time to groom young players...as the Redskins essentially have none.
Please, tell me why I should remain optimistic about Shanahan, where to my eyes, nothing he has done to date has worked out.
First off, I'm not asking you to remain positive about shannahan, just asking you and other unrealitic fans to be a bit more realistic about to state of afairs with this team. We suck. We sucked 11 months ago when you and others were thinking we were going to the playoffs and were optimistic. We don't have any talent nor depth. This is 17 years in the making that you are going to blame Shannahan for? Please. He had barely an offseason and all of a sudden we have a decent receiver in Armstrong, a LT in Williams, a probowl Qb in McNabb, and a killer returner BB. And we may have something with Torain, Williams, and Davis. No one could overhaul the entire roster in this short of a time. Add 4-5 guys like this a year, and there you have it. A 3-4 year turnaround.
The greatest thing that Shannahan has done this year is to hold players accountable. The best player plays...period.
I agree, with coaches who come into a good roster (like Tomlin did with the Steelers) you adjust your scheme to fit the players, but why would any coach want to fit a successful system with crap talent? It's still going to be crap. Why not take the opportunity to start implementing a successful scheme. You don't know how many draft picks we have yet for next year until after the draft takes place. There could be trades even on the day of.
If you want to argue about picking up Mcnabb, that's fine, but I'm not convinced that was a bad move yet. It's too soon to tell. But to say you used to be optimistic 11 months ago and now you are not, because our running game sucks for instance, well did you ever realize that this is like our 15th running back to date? Or about the passing game, we have a crap O-line, what do you expect? Or our defense, we are switching schemes and replacing that so called 5th ranked D. I hated that defense. We were DEAD last in turnovers with 17!!!! 17 f-ing turnovers. That is PATHETIC! Did you seriously think we were going to win even 8 games with this roster? That's your fault, not any coach.
PulpExposure wrote:chiefhog44 wrote:PulpExposure wrote:chiefhog44 wrote:Big supporter once? You make it sounds like that was eon's ago. What, your view has changed from two months ago? Talk about short sighted. Shannahan hasn't even been here for a full season. Ah whatever. I don't care to tell you the truth. If you don't support him anymore, that's fine by me. Let's get another coach in here this offseason, and blow it up again.
I guess I believe, as most football people do, that Shanny and Bruce are the right people and they need time. I guess I want this to work, because I think this may be the last stop for me, and I'm guessing for many other fans as well.
The time from when they were hired to now does seem like eons ago. My issue is that this team is not even competitive anymore. 2 of the past 3 games, the Skins have been absolutely torched by NFC East opponents. This team lacks talent throughout the roster; can you name a position that you would consider a position of strength (besides perhaps TE)?
More problematic, I'm not sure that's something that will be rectified. The Skins, as always, do not have a full draft next year to help rebuild. More damning, the evidence to date shows that the acquisitions that Shanahan and Allen have made are not positive. They've made trades that have robbed the team of important draft picks, yet have yielded very little in return. The free agent pickups they made were wastes of money and time. And the trades (for draft picks) and pickups show that Shanahan isn't interested in fixing this thing from the get-go; he wants to win, and win now (else why would you trade 2 very valuable picks for a 34 year old QB)?
And the talent we have isn't fitting in the systems that Shanahan has chosen to run. The 3-4 has been a disaster here; and on offense, it's not much better. The zone blocking system is the no-zone blocking system; the offensive line is giving up more sacks than last year, and the Redskins cannot muster even a mediocre running game. To me, one hallmark of a good coach is adaptability; when the talent doesn't fit the system, you fit the system to the talent. That's just not happening here.
I'm struggling to think of a positive; what evidence do you have that Shanahan is working out here at all? It's not like this team is getting better (as it did under Schottenheimer). It's getting worse. And it's not as if they're using this time to groom young players...as the Redskins essentially have none.
Please, tell me why I should remain optimistic about Shanahan, where to my eyes, nothing he has done to date has worked out.
First off, I'm not asking you to remain positive about shannahan, just asking you and other unrealitic fans to be a bit more realistic about to state of afairs with this team. We suck. We sucked 11 months ago when you and others were thinking we were going to the playoffs and were optimistic. We don't have any talent nor depth. This is 17 years in the making that you are going to blame Shannahan for? Please. He had barely an offseason and all of a sudden we have a decent receiver in Armstrong, a LT in Williams, a probowl Qb in McNabb, and a killer returner BB. And we may have something with Torain, Williams, and Davis. No one could overhaul the entire roster in this short of a time. Add 4-5 guys like this a year, and there you have it. A 3-4 year turnaround.
The greatest thing that Shannahan has done this year is to hold players accountable. The best player plays...period.
I agree, with coaches who come into a good roster (like Tomlin did with the Steelers) you adjust your scheme to fit the players, but why would any coach want to fit a successful system with crap talent? It's still going to be crap. Why not take the opportunity to start implementing a successful scheme. You don't know how many draft picks we have yet for next year until after the draft takes place. There could be trades even on the day of.
If you want to argue about picking up Mcnabb, that's fine, but I'm not convinced that was a bad move yet. It's too soon to tell. But to say you used to be optimistic 11 months ago and now you are not, because our running game sucks for instance, well did you ever realize that this is like our 15th running back to date? Or about the passing game, we have a crap O-line, what do you expect? Or our defense, we are switching schemes and replacing that so called 5th ranked D. I hated that defense. We were DEAD last in turnovers with 17!!!! 17 f-ing turnovers. That is PATHETIC! Did you seriously think we were going to win even 8 games with this roster? That's your fault, not any coach.
Okay. Point to me where this team is actually improving. Because by now, this team should show signs of progress (especially with the defense, with the switch of schemes). Instead, this team is regressing.
chiefhog44 wrote:PulpExposure wrote:chiefhog44 wrote:PulpExposure wrote:chiefhog44 wrote:Big supporter once? You make it sounds like that was eon's ago. What, your view has changed from two months ago? Talk about short sighted. Shannahan hasn't even been here for a full season. Ah whatever. I don't care to tell you the truth. If you don't support him anymore, that's fine by me. Let's get another coach in here this offseason, and blow it up again.
I guess I believe, as most football people do, that Shanny and Bruce are the right people and they need time. I guess I want this to work, because I think this may be the last stop for me, and I'm guessing for many other fans as well.
The time from when they were hired to now does seem like eons ago. My issue is that this team is not even competitive anymore. 2 of the past 3 games, the Skins have been absolutely torched by NFC East opponents. This team lacks talent throughout the roster; can you name a position that you would consider a position of strength (besides perhaps TE)?
More problematic, I'm not sure that's something that will be rectified. The Skins, as always, do not have a full draft next year to help rebuild. More damning, the evidence to date shows that the acquisitions that Shanahan and Allen have made are not positive. They've made trades that have robbed the team of important draft picks, yet have yielded very little in return. The free agent pickups they made were wastes of money and time. And the trades (for draft picks) and pickups show that Shanahan isn't interested in fixing this thing from the get-go; he wants to win, and win now (else why would you trade 2 very valuable picks for a 34 year old QB)?
And the talent we have isn't fitting in the systems that Shanahan has chosen to run. The 3-4 has been a disaster here; and on offense, it's not much better. The zone blocking system is the no-zone blocking system; the offensive line is giving up more sacks than last year, and the Redskins cannot muster even a mediocre running game. To me, one hallmark of a good coach is adaptability; when the talent doesn't fit the system, you fit the system to the talent. That's just not happening here.
I'm struggling to think of a positive; what evidence do you have that Shanahan is working out here at all? It's not like this team is getting better (as it did under Schottenheimer). It's getting worse. And it's not as if they're using this time to groom young players...as the Redskins essentially have none.
Please, tell me why I should remain optimistic about Shanahan, where to my eyes, nothing he has done to date has worked out.
First off, I'm not asking you to remain positive about shannahan, just asking you and other unrealitic fans to be a bit more realistic about to state of afairs with this team. We suck. We sucked 11 months ago when you and others were thinking we were going to the playoffs and were optimistic. We don't have any talent nor depth. This is 17 years in the making that you are going to blame Shannahan for? Please. He had barely an offseason and all of a sudden we have a decent receiver in Armstrong, a LT in Williams, a probowl Qb in McNabb, and a killer returner BB. And we may have something with Torain, Williams, and Davis. No one could overhaul the entire roster in this short of a time. Add 4-5 guys like this a year, and there you have it. A 3-4 year turnaround.
The greatest thing that Shannahan has done this year is to hold players accountable. The best player plays...period.
I agree, with coaches who come into a good roster (like Tomlin did with the Steelers) you adjust your scheme to fit the players, but why would any coach want to fit a successful system with crap talent? It's still going to be crap. Why not take the opportunity to start implementing a successful scheme. You don't know how many draft picks we have yet for next year until after the draft takes place. There could be trades even on the day of.
If you want to argue about picking up Mcnabb, that's fine, but I'm not convinced that was a bad move yet. It's too soon to tell. But to say you used to be optimistic 11 months ago and now you are not, because our running game sucks for instance, well did you ever realize that this is like our 15th running back to date? Or about the passing game, we have a crap O-line, what do you expect? Or our defense, we are switching schemes and replacing that so called 5th ranked D. I hated that defense. We were DEAD last in turnovers with 17!!!! 17 f-ing turnovers. That is PATHETIC! Did you seriously think we were going to win even 8 games with this roster? That's your fault, not any coach.
Okay. Point to me where this team is actually improving. Because by now, this team should show signs of progress (especially with the defense, with the switch of schemes). Instead, this team is regressing.
they have won one more game than last year. Done. Thanks everyone. I...AM....OUTAHERE
SkinsJock wrote:as bad as we are at this time we are still better off with these guys in charge, with this coaching staff and with these players than we were last year - if you cannot see that you're just very biased against this group and don't want to admit we might be better off AND that you might be wrong in your opinions
Haynesworth is NOT a part of this team in my opinion
I hope he's gone and I hope that somehow, someway he never plays another down in the NFL - good riddance to another me-first ass hO@e
VetSkinsFan wrote:SkinsJock wrote:as bad as we are at this time we are still better off with these guys in charge, with this coaching staff and with these players than we were last year - if you cannot see that you're just very biased against this group and don't want to admit we might be better off AND that you might be wrong in your opinions
Haynesworth is NOT a part of this team in my opinion
I hope he's gone and I hope that somehow, someway he never plays another down in the NFL - good riddance to another me-first ass hO@e
there's nothing out there that proves your point. there is not more cohesion, there is not more team first, there is nothing tangible to prove your point. You just spouting of blind loyalty to the new regime doesn't prove jack.
SkinsJock wrote:man oh man - what a great move by our FO - I agree with RiC - this shows everyone who is making the football decisions
MDSKINSFAN wrote:SkinsJock wrote:man oh man - what a great move by our FO - I agree with RiC - this shows everyone who is making the football decisions
I'm glad they made this decision. I tried to support Haynesworth and hoped the situation would get resolved, but this is what it has came to. And your post is the main thing I take from this move. Danny isn't making the decisions anymore, and that's something to be happy about.
SkinsJock wrote:^^^ Ain't that the truth - HAIL to the Redskins
these guys will find a way to get it done and the players will respond on the field - the new era is here and the BS is over
I am so glad to see that this franchise is heading in the right direction again
1) we are so lucky to have a FO that knows how to get it done
2) we are so lucky to have a HC that knows how to get it done on the field
3) we are so lucky to have a group of players and coaches that know there is no 'free ride' here anymore and the guys that make the roster as both players and coaches will have to put out big time OR they are gone
see - I think this is all about Mike and I have no problem with that - the NFL 'programs' that are making it happen are those like the deal that Mike & Bruce are putting in place here
I'm just so happy to see how well these guys are doing so far
and for those that cannot see the "progress" & "improvement" - get out of the way
What compelled the Redskins to pay him in the first place? This was the folly of owner Daniel Snyder and former general manager Vinny Cerrato, who lavished a contract potentially worth more than $100 million on a player with an awful reputation when the rival New York Giants quietly signed three regular contributors on their defense – Chris Canty(notes), Michael Boley(notes) and Rocky Bernard(notes) – for far less than that combined.
VetSkinsFan wrote:What has 'gotten done' and 'gotten done on the field' exactly?? I hear generalities, but I see no real examples. Please, enlighten me.
KazooSkinsFan wrote:VetSkinsFan wrote:What has 'gotten done' and 'gotten done on the field' exactly?? I hear generalities, but I see no real examples. Please, enlighten me.
Cowboys, Eagles, Bears, Packers, Titans as well as close games against the Colts and Texans. A clear improvement over last year's results already despite blowing up our D, cutting cap hits and using our only two high draft picks on replacing QB and LT.
VetSkinsFan wrote:KazooSkinsFan wrote:VetSkinsFan wrote:What has 'gotten done' and 'gotten done on the field' exactly?? I hear generalities, but I see no real examples. Please, enlighten me.
Cowboys, Eagles, Bears, Packers, Titans as well as close games against the Colts and Texans. A clear improvement over last year's results already despite blowing up our D, cutting cap hits and using our only two high draft picks on replacing QB and LT.
Cowboys: 1 hold call away from losing
Eagles: 1 dropped ball away from losing
hardly decisive wins. Not one game have we had the defense AND the offense play for four quarters in the same week this season.
1 additional win is not a clear improvement. How many 'close games' did we have last year? We lost 7 games by 6 points or less, 5 games by 3 points or less.
And I'll give you Trent Williams, but I will not concede McNabb as an improvement for a rebuilding team.
