GARDENER DONE????

maatopdogg · Post by **maatopdogg** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 3:06 pm

GARDENER PERMANENTLY PLANTED?

A league source tells us that the Bengals haven't finalized a widely-reported contract with free-agent defensive tackle Daryl Gardener because the contract won't be finalized. Ever.

Per the source, Gardener's chronic back problems have prompted the Bengals to back off on their interest in the former first-round draft pick, whose back troubles initially greased the skids toward an abrupt and unexpected divorce two seasons ago in Miami.

Then came a one-year visit to D.C., which Gardener parlayed via good behavior and effective play into a long-term, big-money contract with the Broncos. In Denver, however, Gardener's career hit a low point, thanks in large part to a street brawl at an IHOP parking lot and a pissing match with coach Mike Shanahan. A grievance filed by the team to recover much of his signing bonus was resolved with an agreement that he'd be released on June 1.

After the arrangement was announced, the Bengals (with permission) reached a tentative agreement with Gardener, to be consummated after June 1. Bengals coach Marvin Lewis was the defensive coordinator in Washington during Gardener's comeback season, and Lewis believed that he could manage Gardener's reputation for being a deep-fried turd.

But nearly three weeks later, nothing has happened. There have been rumblings from guys like Tony Williams regarding the question of whether the Bengals need Gardener's services. The real issue, though, is the condition of his back.

We're told that, in the end, nothing will happen, due to Gardener's health. And it likely means the end of the line for Gardener, whose only hope might be to sign a one-year deal for the veteran minimum in order to prove that he's healthy.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:05 pm

cool. vet minimum, no signing bonus, SIGN HIM!!!!!

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:06 pm

I second that motion!!!

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:22 pm

I love bargain bin player shopping. We need to do it more often! Lets get him for cheap he'll be a good addition. We see what he can do under strict coaching.

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:47 pm

fire up Redskin1 and get his butt to DC

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 7:34 pm

We need him. We have 48days right now before our first handout :wink:

We need to get some beef in here. "Wheres the Beef?"

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:07 pm

Guys, Gibbs is not just going to bring 'anybody' in. We have to get over the fact that we're not acquiring any d-linemen.

Guys, ask yourselves this question: "If Gibbs and Co. felt that there were quality d-linemen out there that were worth acquiring, wouldn't they have acquired them already?" YES!

It's time to focus on chemistry and production instead of defensive linemen.

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:09 pm

Jake wrote:Guys, Gibbs is not just going to bring 'anybody' in. We have to get over the fact that we're not acquiring any d-linemen.

Guys, ask yourselves this question: "If Gibbs and Co. felt that there were quality d-linemen out there that were worth acquiring, wouldn't they have acquired them already?" YES!

It's time to focus on chemistry and production instead of defensive linemen.

Hey lets not forget now Joe Gibbs is a Human being. He will make mistake and has made mistakes. I love JG as much as the next skin fan, but we need a lineman. This is why we made an offer to the phins. He know as well as we do that we need to fix this situation.

I trust that he will fix it. He may not fix it this year, but he will fix it. We have one of the worst lines in the league. This is the very first thing we should have taken care of completely

He will fix it and this season if he dont, he will wish he did.

SkinFan 0-16 or 16-0 · Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:04 pm

Bring him back for a cheap contract. Maybe a 3 year, instead of just a one year deal though. That way if he does pan out he will still be here.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:25 pm

hailskins666 wrote:cool. vet minimum, no signing bonus, SIGN HIM!!!!!

and a performance clause no use payiny him the mimimum and have sitting on the bench with a bad back....play half a year get half the vaiue of the contract

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:02 am

1niksder wrote:
hailskins666 wrote:cool. vet minimum, no signing bonus, SIGN HIM!!!!!

and a performance clause no use payiny him the mimimum and have sitting on the bench with a bad back....play half a year get half the vaiue of the contract

as long as there is no signing bonus, we could cut his bad back, and not have to worry about a cap hit later.

SKINS#1 · Post by **SKINS#1** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:22 am

Jake wrote:Guys, Gibbs is not just going to bring 'anybody' in. We have to get over the fact that we're not acquiring any d-linemen.

Guys, ask yourselves this question: "If Gibbs and Co. felt that there were quality d-linemen out there that were worth acquiring, wouldn't they have acquired them already?" YES!

It's time to focus on chemistry and production instead of defensive linemen.

EXACTLY RIGHT -Thank You Jake. It is time to come together as a TEAM. Enough said.

LALUVAH · Post by **LALUVAH** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:16 am

Jake wrote:It's time to focus on chemistry and production instead of defensive linemen.

Absolutely! AMEN BRUTHAH! I couldn't agree more. I don't doubt at all that G Williams will be productive with the linemen we've got already. Let's start playing as a team, and not bring somebody else in to screw it up.

gibbsfan · Post by **gibbsfan** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 4:40 pm

i think it,s time to see joe gibbs get this team playin the way they should be playing.

they have been in a coma for way too long now. but they still have a pulse.it,s joe,s time to bring us back now.

Steve Spurrier III · Post by **Steve Spurrier III** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:07 pm

I'm shocked we aren't snapping up low-cost defensive tackles like we are doing at tight end. I'm telling you, if there aren't any good solutions out there, the best way to deal with a problem spot is to sign a lot of low-salary guys and see who steps up. The chances of one low-salary guy stepping up is small, but if you sign enough of them, the odds of none of them stepping up is very small...

njskinsfan · Post by **njskinsfan** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:25 pm

Is this the dollar store??????????????

joebagadonuts · Post by **joebagadonuts** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 8:55 am

I'm shocked we aren't snapping up low-cost defensive tackles like we are doing at tight end. I'm telling you, if there aren't any good solutions out there, the best way to deal with a problem spot is to sign a lot of low-salary guys and see who steps up. The chances of one low-salary guy stepping up is small, but if you sign enough of them, the odds of none of them stepping up is very small...

the ol' shotgun approach...