how to watch the Washington Redskins game online live?

Redskinsmylife · Post by **Redskinsmylife** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:16 pm

i'll be watching the Washington Redskins online broadcast at http://bit.ly/NFLGameLive

i downloaded it from the Internet the other day and it gives me access to something like 3000 online channels (lots of sports). Anyway works well if you're an NFL fan.

hope this helps

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:34 pm

Thanks. I think atdhe.net doesn't require a download so that's probably better.

aswas71788 · Post by **aswas71788** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:11 pm

frankcal20 wrote:Thanks. I think atdhe.net doesn't require a download so that's probably better.

I had to do a download but it was really small. Whoever put out atdhe, thanks.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:12 pm

No one on here. It's just a service. Come the reg. season, you'll be able to see my stream in full screen.

markshark84 · Post by **markshark84** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:50 pm

frankcal20 wrote:No one on here. It's just a service. Come the reg. season, you'll be able to see my stream in full screen.

Frank,
How do you watch the games in CA? Do you hook up your computer to the TV? Now that I'm in TX, I need to figure this out before September 26th.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:53 pm

Well I have NFL the Ticket. But what I do is stream the games online for you guys to watch that live elsewhere. On gameday, I'll post the link and password to watch. I am changing it up this year and going to stream through various websites in case one get's shut down, I can go to another and start back up. Trust me, you'll have plenty of places to watch.

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:32 pm

frankcal20 wrote:No one on here. It's just a service. Come the reg. season, you'll be able to see my stream in full screen.

Hey Frankie....PG13 man...I don't think "anyone" wants to see your stream....hehehehe :lol:

Let alone...in FULL screen... j/k pal

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:50 pm

HA!!!

markshark84 · Post by **markshark84** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:41 am

frankcal20 wrote:Well I have NFL the Ticket. But what I do is stream the games online for you guys to watch that live elsewhere. On gameday, I'll post the link and password to watch. I am changing it up this year and going to stream through various websites in case one get's shut down, I can go to another and start back up. Trust me, you'll have plenty of places to watch.

Wow. Thanks Frank. I don't have direct TV, so I can't get the NFL ticket. Why they restrict the NFL to Direct TV, I'll never know -- I know it deals with leasing rights, etc. -- but this is a perfect example of where money prevailed over the happiness of the consumer.

Regardless, do you stream the game from this website? Unfortunetely, I am not very tech savy, so if my question is ludicrious, I apologize in advance.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:28 am

Yeah. I am going to try something new this year. Instead of streaming from Justin.tv (website where people lifecast, stream, etc) I'm going to stream from a blog that allows it. But every gameday - I'll post the link here to watch.

SnyderSucks · Post by **SnyderSucks** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:37 am

markshark84 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:Well I have NFL the Ticket. But what I do is stream the games online for you guys to watch that live elsewhere. On gameday, I'll post the link and password to watch. I am changing it up this year and going to stream through various websites in case one get's shut down, I can go to another and start back up. Trust me, you'll have plenty of places to watch.

Wow. Thanks Frank. I don't have direct TV, so I can't get the NFL ticket. Why they restrict the NFL to Direct TV, I'll never know -- I know it deals with leasing rights, etc. -- but this is a perfect example of where money prevailed over the happiness of the consumer.

Regardless, do you stream the game from this website? Unfortunetely, I am not very tech savy, so if my question is ludicrious, I apologize in advance.

Mark,

You can get Sunday ticket this year. They have opened it up for anyone with a broadband connection. You still have to pay, but you can watch on your computer.

The initial reason to restrict it to directv was fear that people would stop going to games. Right now it costs me like $350 or $400 a year - I can't remember. If all the companies had it, they would offer it for less - maybe $150. Lots of people would sign up at that price, and might stop going to games.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:44 am

You should call directv and threaten to cancel. They gave me a $150 credit to stay as a customer. I've done this for 3 years now and get the same credit every year. It's free money!!!!

SnyderSucks · Post by **SnyderSucks** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:48 am

frankcal20 wrote:You should call directv and threaten to cancel. They gave me a $150 credit to stay as a customer. I've done this for 3 years now and get the same credit every year. It's free money!!!!

I might try that. Unfortunately, there is no alternative where I live, so it's a bit hollow.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:53 am

I think it'll work. I'm from NC and grew up in the sticks. It's worked for all my buddies there who don't have cable as an option. But you need to do it this week before the season technically starts.

SnyderSucks · Post by **SnyderSucks** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:00 pm

frankcal20 wrote:I think it'll work. I'm from NC and grew up in the sticks. It's worked for all my buddies there who don't have cable as an option. But you need to do it this week before the season technically starts.

Thanks, I did it. They had signed me up for NFL Live, which i don't need so that saved me $50. Then they gave me $140 off of the $319 for sunday ticket. And three months free Stars. Sweet.

Anyone who has Sunday Ticket should definitely call and threaten to cancel.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:02 pm

Seriously - it's not like you have to debate them at all. All you say is "I'd like to cancel." And they say, "How about if we give you .........." It's like a no brainer.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:59 pm

SnyderSucks wrote:The initial reason to restrict it to directv was fear that people would stop going to games.

Um, no. The local blackout rule exists for that reason, but that has nothing to do with the exclusive rights to Sunday Ticket. The reason to restrict Sunday Ticket to one provider was to get a sweeter deal for the NFL, for the sole rights to broadcast all the games. DirectTV coughed up a billion dollars for their current contract, and I'm sure that amount will go up with the next exclusive contract, be it with DirectTV or another satellite provider. The blackout rule doesn't apply to home subscribers of Sunday Ticket, but if a game is blacked out locally, bars in the blackout area will get heavily fined if they break the blackout and air the game.

Sunday Ticket is guaranteed to provide every game, but DISH Network has so many network feeds from different regions of the country, that you can see most any game anyway. And you can almost always find someone like Frank steaming a particular game online, but Sunday Ticket is the only guarantee.

SnyderSucks · Post by **SnyderSucks** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:30 pm

Deadskins wrote:
SnyderSucks wrote:The initial reason to restrict it to directv was fear that people would stop going to games.

Um, no. The local blackout rule exists for that reason, but that has nothing to do with the exclusive rights to Sunday Ticket. The reason to restrict Sunday Ticket to one provider was to get a sweeter deal for the NFL, for the sole rights to broadcast all the games. DirectTV coughed up a billion dollars for their current contract, and I'm sure that amount will go up with the next exclusive contract, be it with DirectTV or another satellite provider. The blackout rule doesn't apply to home subscribers of Sunday Ticket, but if a game is blacked out locally, bars in the blackout area will get heavily fined if they break the blackout and air the game.

Sunday Ticket is guaranteed to provide every game, but DISH Network has so many network feeds from different regions of the country, that you can see most any game anyway. And you can almost always find someone like Frank steaming a particular game online, but Sunday Ticket is the only guarantee.

Um, Yes. I've been on it since the early days. Initially the NFL only wanted people buying the Sunday ticket who were fans of out of market teams. So a guy living in Denver who wanted to watch the Washington games. They didn't want a guy in Denver buying the ticket. For the first several years, they didn't even give the local feed - you got all the games, but any local games were still the national broadcast. Evetually the local affiliates forced them to only show the local broadcasts so they weren't losing viewership. At that point, they had to recognize that it wasn't only out of market viewership, and they started a broader marketing campaign. The NFL could get a much bigger package than the $1 billion if they distributed it across all providers. They get more than than from the networks for the rights to one or two games a week in each market.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:46 pm

SnyderSucks wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
SnyderSucks wrote:The initial reason to restrict it to directv was fear that people would stop going to games.

Um, no. The local blackout rule exists for that reason, but that has nothing to do with the exclusive rights to Sunday Ticket. The reason to restrict Sunday Ticket to one provider was to get a sweeter deal for the NFL, for the sole rights to broadcast all the games. DirectTV coughed up a billion dollars for their current contract, and I'm sure that amount will go up with the next exclusive contract, be it with DirectTV or another satellite provider. The blackout rule doesn't apply to home subscribers of Sunday Ticket, but if a game is blacked out locally, bars in the blackout area will get heavily fined if they break the blackout and air the game.

Sunday Ticket is guaranteed to provide every game, but DISH Network has so many network feeds from different regions of the country, that you can see most any game anyway. And you can almost always find someone like Frank steaming a particular game online, but Sunday Ticket is the only guarantee.

Um, Yes. I've been on it since the early days. Initially the NFL only wanted people buying the Sunday ticket who were fans of out of market teams. So a guy living in Denver who wanted to watch the Washington games. They didn't want a guy in Denver buying the ticket. For the first several years, they didn't even give the local feed - you got all the games, but any local games were still the national broadcast. Evetually the local affiliates forced them to only show the local broadcasts so they weren't losing viewership. At that point, they had to recognize that it wasn't only out of market viewership, and they started a broader marketing campaign. The NFL could get a much bigger package than the $1 billion if they distributed it across all providers. They get more than than from the networks for the rights to one or two games a week in each market.

Um, no. Even if what you say is true, then it was so people would watch on their local affiliate, not to protect game attendance. The Ticket is only appealing to out-of-market viewers. If you are in market, you can just watch the games over local broadcast networks for free. And no they couldn't get more by distributing it to all providers, or they would have done so. I'm sure they looked at all the angles before coming to such a decision. If they allowed every provider to carry the Ticket, they couldn't demand the same price that exclusivity warrants.

SnyderSucks · Post by **SnyderSucks** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:20 pm

Deadskins wrote:
SnyderSucks wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
SnyderSucks wrote:The initial reason to restrict it to directv was fear that people would stop going to games.

Um, no. The local blackout rule exists for that reason, but that has nothing to do with the exclusive rights to Sunday Ticket. The reason to restrict Sunday Ticket to one provider was to get a sweeter deal for the NFL, for the sole rights to broadcast all the games. DirectTV coughed up a billion dollars for their current contract, and I'm sure that amount will go up with the next exclusive contract, be it with DirectTV or another satellite provider. The blackout rule doesn't apply to home subscribers of Sunday Ticket, but if a game is blacked out locally, bars in the blackout area will get heavily fined if they break the blackout and air the game.

Sunday Ticket is guaranteed to provide every game, but DISH Network has so many network feeds from different regions of the country, that you can see most any game anyway. And you can almost always find someone like Frank steaming a particular game online, but Sunday Ticket is the only guarantee.

Um, Yes. I've been on it since the early days. Initially the NFL only wanted people buying the Sunday ticket who were fans of out of market teams. So a guy living in Denver who wanted to watch the Washington games. They didn't want a guy in Denver buying the ticket. For the first several years, they didn't even give the local feed - you got all the games, but any local games were still the national broadcast. Evetually the local affiliates forced them to only show the local broadcasts so they weren't losing viewership. At that point, they had to recognize that it wasn't only out of market viewership, and they started a broader marketing campaign. The NFL could get a much bigger package than the $1 billion if they distributed it across all providers. They get more than than from the networks for the rights to one or two games a week in each market.

Um, no. Even if what you say is true, then it was so people would watch on their local affiliate, not to protect game attendance. The Ticket is only appealing to out-of-market viewers. If you are in market, you can just watch the games over local broadcast networks for free. And no they couldn't get more by distributing it to all providers, or they would have done so. I'm sure they looked at all the angles before coming to such a decision. If they allowed every provider to carry the Ticket, they couldn't demand the same price that exclusivity warrants.

They made an exclusive deal so that Directv could charge a premium price to the invidual and keep the size of the market restrained. They chose directv because not all customers can get directv, thus further restraining the market. There were articles at the time where they stated specifically that they did not want Sunday ticket competing with ticket sales in local markets. In Canada, you can get Sunday ticket for $160, roughly half the price as in the U.S. At that price, you can get the entire season for the price of two people going to one game. If it was available on all systems for that price, the total dollars going to the league from Sunday ticket would go through the roof, but they risk losing ticket sales.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:42 pm

markshark84 wrote:I can't get the NFL ticket. Why they restrict the NFL to Direct TV, I'll never know -- I know it deals with leasing rights, etc. -- but this is a perfect example of where money prevailed over the happiness of the consumer

You can get Sunday Ticket, just get DirecTV and buy it. But as to your point I'm confused how the NFL is any different then any other business. Wouldn't all customers of every business be "happier" if they got the same thing, only paid less?

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:45 pm

frankcal20 wrote:Seriously - it's not like you have to debate them at all. All you say is "I'd like to cancel." And they say, "How about if we give you .........." It's like a no brainer.

Yes, we were talking about that before. I asked to just remove the $50 "to go" portion and in order to keep it they cut my rate by more then double what it cost...

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:47 pm

Deadskins wrote:
SnyderSucks wrote:The initial reason to restrict it to directv was fear that people would stop going to games.

Um, no. The local blackout rule exists for that reason, but that has nothing to do with the exclusive rights to Sunday Ticket. The reason to restrict Sunday Ticket to one provider was to get a sweeter deal for the NFL, for the sole rights to broadcast all the games. DirectTV coughed up a billion dollars for their current contract, and I'm sure that amount will go up with the next exclusive contract, be it with DirectTV or another satellite provider. The blackout rule doesn't apply to home subscribers of Sunday Ticket, but if a game is blacked out locally, bars in the blackout area will get heavily fined if they break the blackout and air the game.

Sunday Ticket is guaranteed to provide every game, but DISH Network has so many network feeds from different regions of the country, that you can see most any game anyway. And you can almost always find someone like Frank steaming a particular game online, but Sunday Ticket is the only guarantee.

Great points, deadskins. As for me as you said, Sunday TIcket is the only guarantee though in the end. No chance I miss a Skins game. That way I get them all in HD on my DVR as well. It's well worth the money.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:55 pm

SnyderSucks wrote: They made an exclusive deal so that Directv could charge a premium price to the invidual and keep the size of the market restrained. They chose directv because not all customers can get directv, thus further restraining the market

They made the deal with DirecTV because DirecTV offered the most money. They offered the most money because it's a huge draw to get people to buy direcTV. No one else would offer that much because they are only trying to sell the package. If the NFL sold the package to anyone else, then DirecTV wouldn't pay what they do because buying they package wouldn't get people to buy DirecTV. In the end, I love DirecTV anyway and the package is only a few hundred bucks a year. I missed watching the Skins every Sunday when I left the area so much and now I get to watch every snap of every game. The NFL has a great product. That's why they make the bucks for offering it.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:35 am

SnyderSucks wrote:They made an exclusive deal so that Directv could charge a premium price to the invidual and keep the size of the market restrained. They chose directv because not all customers can get directv, thus further restraining the market. There were articles at the time where they stated specifically that they did not want Sunday ticket competing with ticket sales in local markets. In Canada, you can get Sunday ticket for $160, roughly half the price as in the U.S. At that price, you can get the entire season for the price of two people going to one game. If it was available on all systems for that price, the total dollars going to the league from Sunday ticket would go through the roof, but they risk losing ticket sales.

Why would they want to keep the market restrained? That makes absolutely no sense. The NFL wants to market it's product to the most people possible. They get about 3.5 billion from their network TV contracts, and 1 billion from DirectTV for Sunday Ticket. DirectTV paid a premium for exclusivity, because it sells their dishes, period. They actually take a loss on the Ticket, just so they get a leg up on the competition for the rest of their product offerings.

Also, why would you think that out of market viewers would somehow affect local ticket sales? That also makes no sense. People local to their team can just watch broadcast TV for free. The blackout rule forces them to buy tickets, if their team can't sell out home games. People stop buying tickets because their team sucks, not because they can buy Sunday Ticket and watch at home.