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Bob 0119 wrote:For me, McNabb's completion percentage sure wasn't that great, but a nearly 20-yard avg. in passing yards on 11 completions helped ease the worries a bit.

Sure he threw some lame ducks, but he also threw quite a few nice ones.

I'm more excited about what they did right than I am worried about those that went wrong.


My main concern for the Redskins coming out of the gate is McNabb's arm.

He guns those passes in, and our receivers aren't used to that.

I know that, in time, the receivers will adjust to Mcnabb's game-speed throws, but I'm hoping it's sooner, rather than later, or some of those drops/overthrows/ricochets may end up too many times in the hands of the opposite team.

That being said, i'm geeked to have a pro quarterback playing for the Skins for the first time in over a decade.

(Yes, more geekd than when MB was here.)
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And as far as trick plays during the pre-season go; you see that all the time.

Zorn did it, Gibbs did it, I'm even thinking Spurrier did it.

You see it in pre-season far more often than you do in the regular season.
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frankcal20 wrote:Moss's drop was 100% on Moss. Not McNabb.


You talkin the one where he went high over ht emiddle and got crushed? I don't put that one on Moss 100%.

And if the passes weren't behind, maybe they wouldn't be 'receiver drops.' His accuracy was shoddy at best. Now Davis' TD drop was all on Davis.
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Bob 0119 wrote:And as far as trick plays during the pre-season go; you see that all the time.
Zorn did it, Gibbs did it, I'm even thinking Spurrier did it.
You see it in pre-season far more often than you do in the regular season.


this is a really good time to "show" these plays - there are 3 good outcomes:
1 it doesn't really matter if the play works or not
2 you get to see the play "in action" and can fine tune it if you need to
3 other teams have to prepare for it because they know you could pull it off in a "real" game

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VetSkinsFan wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:Moss's drop was 100% on Moss. Not McNabb.


You talkin the one where he went high over ht emiddle and got crushed? I don't put that one on Moss 100%.

And if the passes weren't behind, maybe they wouldn't be 'receiver drops.' His accuracy was shoddy at best. Now Davis' TD drop was all on Davis.


Was the pass 100% in stride? No. But It hit Moss square on the back shoulder. He got the pass all the way in and then b/c of the hit, dropped it. After the play he tapped his own chest and pointed at McNabb saying, my fault. This isn't Pop Warner man. I know we saw him wide open but he can't be like that on every play. That's being chalked up as a drop in my book and his too.
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not to change the topic - I understand that Moss was lining up in the slot - I have not seen the film - did this happen a lot and did it look like a formation that we might see more of?
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SkinsJock wrote:not to change the topic - I understand that Moss was lining up in the slot - I have not seen the film - did this happen a lot and did it look like a formation that we might see more of?


From what I've read, it sounds like that is the plan. He isn't playing the same position as he has in previous years. If they go three wide, he will likely be in the slot.
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THANKS - I think that this might be also where he could line up in the 2 TE formation

of course that will mean that one of the other WRs has to step up and play the #1 WR position
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They're trying to put him in a position to go up against their #3 CB or a LB. It's all about matchup's.
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frankcal20 wrote:They're trying to put him in a position to go up against their #3 CB or a LB. It's all about matchup's.


I agree frank - I also think that anything designed to let Moss be running with the ball after the catch and taking advantage of his speed and elusiveness ia good thing :)
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If they were going to lose a pre-season game, this was the perfect one. Now they will go into the final two with a new sense of purpose.
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frankcal20 wrote:
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frankcal20 wrote:Moss's drop was 100% on Moss. Not McNabb.


You talkin the one where he went high over ht emiddle and got crushed? I don't put that one on Moss 100%.

And if the passes weren't behind, maybe they wouldn't be 'receiver drops.' His accuracy was shoddy at best. Now Davis' TD drop was all on Davis.


Was the pass 100% in stride? No. But It hit Moss square on the back shoulder. He got the pass all the way in and then b/c of the hit, dropped it. After the play he tapped his own chest and pointed at McNabb saying, my fault. This isn't Pop Warner man. I know we saw him wide open but he can't be like that on every play. That's being chalked up as a drop in my book and his too.


I didn't say he was faultless...I said it wasn't all on him.
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SkinsJock wrote:btw - it's good to see some 'old' buddies back on the boards like cville and dcd - welcome back :wink:


good to be back! i still perused the forum from time to time last year, but the season was so awful i didn't have anything to say aside from screaming "AAAAUUUUUGHHHH!!!!!!"
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I guess.

A lot on here did that too.
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Deadskins wrote:If they were going to lose a pre-season game, this was the perfect one. Now they will go into the final two with a new sense of purpose.


I'm not really big on winning or losing these games - I know that most here don't agree but they are entitled to feel like that

I want the Redskins to win every game they play - even if it were a beach volleyball game - I think it is more important at this time and with the changes we are going through at all levels, that we see progress from what we have seen here the past few years

I think that we have seen that this group could become a lot more competitive a lot quicker than many of us thought possible and the pre season games are just a preparation and process that are needed to find the combination of players and game planning that we need to put a consistently competive product on the field - we have not had anything close to that in many years - for the most part, we have been lucky, we have not been good

these new guys look like they are going to put a lot of very motivated players on the field and that is a huge plus over what has been going on here for years under the Snyder/Cerrato way of running things

as far as the pre season goes, IMO, winning is great but being relatively injury free and finding the players and the game planning that suits the schemes these guys want to run is a lot more important

I'm kind of looking forward to seeing this evolve - the evidence is pretty good so far in my opinion
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SkinsJock wrote:as far as the pre season goes, IMO, winning is great but being relatively injury free and finding the players and the game planning that suits the schemes these guys want to run is a lot more important

Obviously, but winning builds confidence, even if it is only in preseason.
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Deadskins wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:as far as the pre season goes, IMO, winning is great but being relatively injury free and finding the players and the game planning that suits the schemes these guys want to run is a lot more important

Obviously, but winning builds confidence, even if it is only in preseason.

Obviously, but winning at the expense of learning is not really 'winning'

winning builds confidence but learning from 'losing' is 'winning' too :lol:

look we can go on and on - I've got nothing to do, obviously :lol:

I'm all for winning each game but I think that the guys in charge are more interested in preparing to win games that count than running plays just to win a game. I think they want to find out what players and plays are bettter suited for what they need to know to prepare to win the games that count - just my opinion

how's that for a run around :lol:
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SkinsJock wrote:winning builds confidence but learning from 'losing' is 'winning' too

Which is why I said the Ravens' game was the perfect one to lose, if we had to lose a preseason game. :wink:
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Deadskins wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:winning builds confidence but learning from 'losing' is 'winning' too

Which is why I said the Ravens' game was the perfect one to lose, if we had to lose a preseason game. :wink:


That loss messed up my overall prediction.. sooooo... now I'm going with 20-4.. (previously 21-3)
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