Darrell Russell

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:03 pm

Should the Redskins sign Darrell Russell?

skinsNut · Post by **skinsNut** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:10 pm

Hell yeah, we need the help.

Hopefully the signing bonus will be small so that we can cut him if any 'problems' arise.

skins75 · Post by **skins75** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:40 pm

No question. We need the help. Also, we have had convicts on our team before (ie: Dexter Manley) that have worked out pretty well.

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:44 pm

I agree. This area of the team is woefully lacking and he should provide somewhat of a boost.

skinsNut · Post by **skinsNut** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:57 pm

Venting Hog wrote:I agree. This area of the team is woefully lacking and he should provide somewhat of a boost.

he really hasn't played for so long that I have no idea how well he will perform. if he can play well at all though, he well at least command some double teams and hopefully free up other DL to make plays (hopefully).

I'm just biting my nails waiting to hear.... any word yet?

Wingman · Post by **Wingman** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:45 pm

like Tom Cruise says in Risky Business...

"sometimes you just gotta say what the ...."

I can see both sides of the argument as to whether we should sign him. If the deal is done for the right money, I say you roll the dice. We have burnt more money in worse places before.

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:57 pm

absofreakinlutely....we need all the interior help we can get....what's the downside here? Our d is getting destroyed and unless we get some push upfront our depleted secondary are going to get toasted and our LBs are going to be blocked on every play

The Skins Fan · Post by **The Skins Fan** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 8:18 pm

Well here is how I look at it and it's not anything you all haven't said...Hell yeah sign him...I mean it can't hurt right?? The way I see it, as pathetic as the D-Line has played (especially that past few weeks...and lets not forget the first several games when we got lucky b/c of all the offensive injuries to the other teams which helped our D-Line look better than they really are) it can't hurt to have him on the team.
Even though he might not be in playing shape since not being in football since the '01 season, he can still probably contribute after a few weeks of practice in which IF this team makes a 180 degree turnaround (which I'm praying to god every night for) and we are in some kind of contention for the playoffs, we will need him to step up and be the pro bowl player he once was.

Wingman · Post by **Wingman** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 8:30 pm

My only fear is that he comes in and we throw money at him for the player that he USED to be. If the deal is for much more than the vet minimum, with incentives I would assume, I say the deal starts to go the other way.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Tue Oct 28, 2003 10:44 pm

sign him, and sign him as cheap and as long term as possible. two reasons, one, look at this guys numbers, he was second overall in i believe the 98(?) draft, two pro bowls, 28.5 sacks in five years.....after sitting out two years he wants just one more shot at those nice paychecks, and he's only 27, got a few good years left. and the second reason..... two words... daryl gardner. he was a "risk" and only got a one year deal.....would have signed for a lot longer for very little money in his time of need, but got a one year audition, demanded big dollars, and was out the door. lets not make the same mistake twice......give the guy what he's worth through performance and behavior incentives, getting a solid DT in a "steal" would be very nice....

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:06 pm

In this case I'd almost prefer a short term deal.

Gardener had a supposed attitude problem and injury history, not a propensity for crime.

Having said that, my preference for a short term contract stem from Russell's inevitable 'rust' having sat out the last year and a half.

He may not even 'have it' any more.

And judging from his agent's comments thus far... they're not going to rush to sign the first cntract that comes along... they know that there is always a market for a pro bowl DT.

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 5:57 pm

Is this dude in shape?? I hear he is 6'5 325. What are his legs and wind like???? ESPN is saying Tampa was speaking with Russell on the sly to replace Sapp :shock:

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 6:52 pm

Done deal, but now we have more work cut out for us. Why not? A DT with a mean streak, a second chance with a new team... it does sound very similar to Daryl Gardener. If he's hald as good, he's better than we could have hoped for this late in the season. For that matter, we should have signed Leonardo Carson.

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:24 pm

as much as I can't stand fatboy Sapp...I'd sure love to see him as our DT next season...but doubt we could afford him

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:06 pm

Sapp would be a nice edition to our D but he is costly.

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:16 pm

Sapp would be a nice edition to our D but he is costly.

I don't think we should go after Sapp at all! His best days are behind him...and he would command too high a price for what he has to offer in his later years.

It reminds me, somewhat, of when the Skins got Dana Stubblefield. At the time, he was a stud...and when he came to us, he was mediocre.

I don't think Sapp could ever be mediocre...but he certainly wouldn't be able to play at a level to justify the price one would have to pay to get him.

Just my My 2 cents

curveball · Post by **curveball** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:48 pm

Venting Hog stopped over at our site, Cowboysguide, and said feel free to come here so don't get too mad about a Cowboy fan showing himself.

Now on to Russell. Good signing for the Redskins (at least for the short term), terrible siging for Russell. After all of his problems, Washington was one of the last places he needed to be.

Washington is having serious discipline problems. Witness all the penalties, players airing their laundry in the media, a serious power struggle (at least in the player's minds) between the coaching staff and the owner, etc. A player with serious self-discipline problems really doesn't need this situation.

Add to that the above average night life of the DC metroplex and it's a recipe for disaster.

On a side note, your main page is terrific, but the font when typing a post is very difficult, but that may be the way I'm configured. I've got white on gold that's very difficult to see.

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:55 pm

Venting Hog wrote:
Sapp would be a nice edition to our D but he is costly.

I don't think we should go after Sapp at all! His best days are behind him...and he would command too high a price for what he has to offer in his later years.

It reminds me, somewhat, of when the Skins got Dana Stubblefield. At the time, he was a stud...and when he came to us, he was mediocre.

I don't think Sapp could ever be mediocre...but he certainly wouldn't be able to play at a level to justify the price one would have to pay to get him.

Just my

He is exspensive. He is also better than any DT we had in the last 13 years. I would take him. You dont see guys running at him and thats what we need. He is still the most respected DT in the game today, whether you like it or not.

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:56 pm

Welcome curveball, and no problem having a Cowboy fan here... we forgive you. :-)

There's actually a welcome posted to CowboysGuide members in here somewhere that I posted.

As members of the F2FA we welcome all foreign intrusions and ask only that you obey the rules of our board. I can't promise you'll find much love here, but you will be able to find out anything you wanna know about the Skins.

... as for the font issue... not really sure why you're having a problem... it should just be courier.

Enjoy the site, and thanks for dropping by.

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:03 pm

Hey curveballs....go to the talk smack section. I want to tell you something :lowblow:

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:49 am

I agree that Sapp may be too expensive and he kinda does resemble the Stubby signing.

Oh right...so Russell should have signed with the Dallas crackwagon? Please.