Schefter: Eagles Traded McNabb to Keep Bradford Out of DC

[1niksder]

I don't see why it's hard to believe that NFL execs believe this could be one of the reasons they traded him within the Div.

That anyone would trade their starting quarterback to keep another team from trading draft picks to draft a quarterback is a retarded idea, that's why.

When the off season started McNabb and Vick were on the trading block, when came time to decide whether or not they should pay Vick his roster bonus, they paid Vick his cash and McNabb became the lone Philly QB on the trading block. That doesn't sound like a starting QB to me

And that of their competitors we are the ones the Eagles are afraid of enough to make them do it to is even more retarded.

They are preventing a team that they face twice a year from possibly selecting the top QB in the first year of a new coaches area, the same year they decide to go with their QB of the future. My the Eagles are retarded maybe they are looking at more than the 2010 season.

Then again...the Eagles just need to trade 30 more starting quarterbacks to other teams to sabotage them and bam...Super Bowl baby!

They have to develop them over time while having someone they can bring along slowly and develop to the point they can trade however the starter is with no drop off in performance. Kind of what they would be preventing the Redskins from doing if, they made the trade with-in the Division for the reasons being discussed.

Or maybe, could McNabb be by any chance Scottish? Do we have an unexploded Scotsman crisis looming? Somebody, call the bomb squad!!!!

If he's a unexploded Scotsman what good would calling the bomb squad do? Shouldn't they call in the TASC squad (Anti-unexploded Scotsman Crisis Squad)?

[chiefhog44]

I'm actually thinking that we will draft Bradford at 4. The more I think about this, the Rams should take THE number one player in the draft, and that's Suh...not Bradford. we'll make due with some free agent LT (Adams) this year and maybe pick up a RT in the draft in the second round...which I think we aquire for Haynesworth. Wouldn't suprise me if we trade Campbell away for a third or fourth rounder (Rams). Rams will take Mccoy or Tebow in the second round. this is my prediction. Lock it in.

[fleetus]

He's citing other GMs, not coming up with this on his own.

Who?

NFL execs believe one reason Eagles traded McNabb to Redskins was so Washington could not acquire Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford.

He's not going to name his sources obviously. Unless you think that he is just making this up?

I have some unnamed sources that have informed me that Schefter was one of Tiger's mistresses and that he is upset Tiger has not apologized to him yet.

[markshark84]

Wow, people are really salty about this "speculation".

And also, if McNabb was truly their "best player" and they valued him as such, they wouldn't have traded him. The eagles think he is on the downswing. Let's get real guys.

But in terms of the twitter, is he really thought this was legit, he wouldn't have only posted it on twitter.

[fleetus]

Rumors were out there that Shanny liked Bradford and might try to move up to get him. What they gave to the Eagles is about what it would have taken to get the Rams to swap no. 1 picks. Bradford could have sat for a year and learned, while Philly struggles with Kolb for one year, Washington will be without a young QB to build around.

So if the Skins passed on McNabb and gave the #4 and their #2 to move up to the #1 spot then Bradford would have been starting by October after JC had his neck broken in the first two games! Our first chance to get an OT would have been in the 4th round. And that means Colt or Grossman would be starting by week 8-9 after Bradford re-injurs his shoulder when a DL taps him.

You all act like the OL was as bad at the start of the last season as it is right now! Our line is in right now is in FAR WORSE SHAPE than it was at the beginning of last year and worse than it was at any time last year.

Unles we draft a LT in the first, we might as well start Grossman or Colt, because McNabb will get killed behind this pathetic OL.

I guess we could always go out and sign False Start Adams and Levi Jones to play LT & RT, but my wigi board says that they wouldn't last the season and no QB would either, but at least we would have someone that we could line up at both OT spots. Right now we don't have anyone to start at LT or RT!

While I agree that O-line should be the biggest priority for the Skins right now, I think you need to consider the Shanahan ffactor with O-line. Zone blocking scheme changes everything. The type of players needed, allows for better success by some of our existing lineman, improves chance thsat this line could work as a unit toward success. Don't assume everything is the same as the end of last season and line will fail. There is some serious upside to Shanahan's system. let's give them a chance to show it before we throw them under the bus.

[fleetus]

This is from Adam Schefter's Twitter:

NFL execs believe one reason Eagles traded McNabb to Redskins was so Washington could not acquire Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford.

Eagles did not want to see a Sam Bradford/Mike Shanahan union. By trading them McNabb, Redskins don't have ammo to trade up to No. 1 anymore

This is knee high B.S. at its best. But hey, these guys, like Schefter, have to come up with a new story every day. It is their job to sell, sell, sell. So, they're just doing what they get paid to do.

IF a GM actually did spew this hogwash about Philly trying to stop Washington from getting Bradford, well several things are pretty obvious to anyone with a half a grain of common sense:
1) Philly isn't going to tell anyone of their plans to stop Bradford going to Washington, so it is pure speculation
2) No one controls Washington's ability to get Bradford, except Washington. So, if Shanahan was making the decision based on the price of getting Bradford vs. the price of getting McNabb and how he feels about those two QB's. No one controlled Shanahan's thoughts or decisions.
3) If you're going to try and control someone's actions by trading them your great QB, who knows your offense and defense backwards and forwards for the relatively small investment of a 2nd and 3/4th round picks, then you might be a little bit gullible.
4) if a GM tells you this story and you print it, you are depending on a very gullible audience.


Lastly, I'll throw in my own far-fetched speculation. As much as I admire New England and Philly's personnel decisions, in general, the Bristol, CT based ESPN repeatedly hypes these two franchises while denegrating the Skins and others. In many cases this treatment is deserved. But like all the rest of the media, many times they write factless stories that simply prey upon those same old mis-perceptions. This is one of those times. Philly makes a very questionable move and does not get criticized for it. (now the media's trying to find a way to praise it) (or Andy Reid is feeding this BS to media to spin it his way)

[KazooSkinsFan]

If he's a unexploded Scotsman what good would calling the bomb squad do? Shouldn't they call in the TASC squad (Anti-unexploded Scotsman Crisis Squad)?

I looked it up just to be safe. It's actually the "UNEXPLODED SCOTSMAN DISPOSAL SQUAD." Or the "Unexploded Scotsman Squad" for short.

As for McNabb, I have nowhere to go. It's just that I can't see successful teams making trades for any reason but to make themselves better. Also to make a trade to screw someone up requires solving this contradiction. The trade will screw them up, but they aren't smart enough to not make the trade because it will screw them up and they make it, which makes me wonder why they would worry about screwing them up if they aren't smart enough to prevent you from doing it?

[SkinsJock]

... As for McNabb, I have nowhere to go. It's just that I can't see successful teams making trades for any reason but to make themselves better.

to make a trade to screw someone up requires solving this contradiction:
The trade will screw them up, but they aren't smart enough to not make the trade because it will screw them up and they make it, which makes me wonder why they would worry about screwing them up if they aren't smart enough to prevent you from doing it?

- there are some funny posts here but that part helps make a rainy Friday a little brighter



I cannot think that many fans place much credence in this OR that fans think that Andy Reid who is one of the better coaches in the NFL would actually think along these lines - just not happening - this is just stupid reporting or speculating IMO

[fleetus]

This is from Adam Schefter's Twitter:

NFL execs believe one reason Eagles traded McNabb to Redskins was so Washington could not acquire Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford.

Eagles did not want to see a Sam Bradford/Mike Shanahan union. By trading them McNabb, Redskins don't have ammo to trade up to No. 1 anymore

This is knee high B.S. at its best. But hey, these guys, like Schefter, have to come up with a new story every day. It is their job to sell, sell, sell. So, they're just doing what they get paid to do.

IF a GM actually did spew this hogwash about Philly trying to stop Washington from getting Bradford, well several things are pretty obvious to anyone with a half a grain of common sense:
1) Philly isn't going to tell anyone of their plans to stop Bradford going to Washington, so it is pure speculation
2) No one controls Washington's ability to get Bradford, except Washington. So, if Shanahan was making the decision based on the price of getting Bradford vs. the price of getting McNabb and how he feels about those two QB's. No one controlled Shanahan's thoughts or decisions.
3) If you're going to try and control someone's actions by trading them your great QB, who knows your offense and defense backwards and forwards for the relatively small investment of a 2nd and 3/4th round picks, then you might be a little bit gullible.
4) if a GM tells you this story and you print it, you are depending on a very gullible audience.


Lastly, I'll throw in my own far-fetched speculation. As much as I admire New England and Philly's personnel decisions, in general, the Bristol, CT based ESPN repeatedly hypes these two franchises while denegrating the Skins and others. In many cases this treatment is deserved. But like all the rest of the media, many times they write factless stories that simply prey upon those same old mis-perceptions. This is one of those times. Philly makes a very questionable move and does not get criticized for it. (now the media's trying to find a way to praise it) (or Andy Reid is feeding this BS to media to spin it his way)

I thought of one more:

5) If your effort to stop Shanahan from getting Bradford includes a trade that possibly provides EVEN BETTER value than the option of acquiring Bradford, then your logic is severely flawed.

[CanesSkins26]

As for McNabb, I have nowhere to go. It's just that I can't see successful teams making trades for any reason but to make themselves better. Also to make a trade to screw someone up requires solving this contradiction

The trade does make them better. They obviously believe that McNabb is on the decline and that Kolb is their future. So they get high draft picks for a guy that they didn't want anyway. Sure seems like a winning trade for Philly.

[fleetus]

As for McNabb, I have nowhere to go. It's just that I can't see successful teams making trades for any reason but to make themselves better. Also to make a trade to screw someone up requires solving this contradiction

The trade does make them better. They obviously believe that McNabb is on the decline and that Kolb is their future. So they get high draft picks for a guy that they didn't want anyway. Sure seems like a winning trade for Philly.

Yeah, it is, but not because McNabb is on the decline. It is because they are willing to roll the dice on Kolb and they Vick as insurance if Kolb and his 2 games experience turns out to be a flop.

The main reason they make this trade is because mcNabb only has one yr. left on his contract. So trading him now for anything is better than letting him walk away scot free in 2011. They're gambling that Kolb can produce decently over the next 2 seasons. Also, if you look at Philly, they are in a bit of a rebuilding plan. They've let Dawkins, Westbrook and McNabb go. They've stock piled picks. They are re-tooling. So they would rather get Kolb some reps now to find out if he is a long term answer and use the picks from McNabb trade to re-build.

Doesn't mean McNabb is not a better QB than Kolb. Doesn't mean McNabb is not worth every bit of thiose draft picks given.

[langleyparkjoe]

Good points Fleetus

[riggofan]

Yeah I read this article yesterday and thought what a tremendous crock of you know what.

I kind of doubt that Adam Schefter just made this "story" up though. I know some people don't have a high opinion of the media, but the idea that reporters just go out and make stuff up to suit their own agendas is kind of ridiculous. You know any reporter who does that eventually ends up exposed and disgraced like Stephen Glass or Jayson Blair. Not to mention Adam Schefter is reportedly tight with Shanahan, so I'm not sure he would have that type of agenda to begin with.

Still a crock of a story. My guess is that something like this would come from somebody within the Eagles org because of all the flack they took for trading a QB within the division.

Seems a little more realistic than the notion of a renegade reporter risking his career in his unrelenting campaign to venerate the Philadelphia Eagles.

[Countertrey]

I can only imagine what it will be like when Kolb makes his first stupid mistake and the Philly "fans" start screaming "we want Vick".

[langleyparkjoe]

I can only imagine what it will be like when Kolb makes his first stupid mistake and the Philly "fans" start screaming "we want Vick".

Right! .. and how sweet would it be if Vick actually comes in and stinks up the place.. then the fans would say "dag I wish we still had McNabb.. let's go boo the easter bunny"

[fleetus]

Seems a little more realistic than the notion of a renegade reporter risking his career in his unrelenting campaign to venerate the Philadelphia Eagles.

You may be right, but I don't buy that it is risking his career. If he speculates something out of thin air, maybe based on a thin rumor he heard and prints it on a slow news day, what risk is there? Who can say he didn't hear this from an an unnamed source? His source stays private. The only person who might have some idea that it was totally fictitious is his editor. Maybe not even him.

[Fios]

As for McNabb, I have nowhere to go. It's just that I can't see successful teams making trades for any reason but to make themselves better. Also to make a trade to screw someone up requires solving this contradiction

The trade does make them better. They obviously believe that McNabb is on the decline and that Kolb is their future. So they get high draft picks for a guy that they didn't want anyway. Sure seems like a winning trade for Philly.

Good god man, try to be somewhat reasonable about this. Even you would have to admit this trade might make them better at this point. Obviously we have no idea how McNabb will perform in DC but to assert that a McNabb to Kolb swap improves the Eagles is a big stretch. Listen, I am with you, I'm not a big fan of having sacrificed those draft picks, I'd rather just commit to a wholesale rebuild. But Kolb is, at best, a promising unknown, the Eagles HOPE he's better but we're still a long way away from KNOWING he is.

[skinsfan#33]

He's citing other GMs, not coming up with this on his own.

Who?

NFL execs believe one reason Eagles traded McNabb to Redskins was so Washington could not acquire Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford.

He's not going to name his sources obviously. Unless you think that he is just making this up?

I have some unnamed sources that have informed me that Schefter was one of Tiger's mistresses and that he is upset Tiger has not apologized to him yet.

He can't be, he isn't a blond.

[skinsfan#33]

Rumors were out there that Shanny liked Bradford and might try to move up to get him. What they gave to the Eagles is about what it would have taken to get the Rams to swap no. 1 picks. Bradford could have sat for a year and learned, while Philly struggles with Kolb for one year, Washington will be without a young QB to build around.

So if the Skins passed on McNabb and gave the #4 and their #2 to move up to the #1 spot then Bradford would have been starting by October after JC had his neck broken in the first two games! Our first chance to get an OT would have been in the 4th round. And that means Colt or Grossman would be starting by week 8-9 after Bradford re-injurs his shoulder when a DL taps him.

You all act like the OL was as bad at the start of the last season as it is right now! Our line is in right now is in FAR WORSE SHAPE than it was at the beginning of last year and worse than it was at any time last year.

Unles we draft a LT in the first, we might as well start Grossman or Colt, because McNabb will get killed behind this pathetic OL.

I guess we could always go out and sign False Start Adams and Levi Jones to play LT & RT, but my wigi board says that they wouldn't last the season and no QB would either, but at least we would have someone that we could line up at both OT spots. Right now we don't have anyone to start at LT or RT!

While I agree that O-line should be the biggest priority for the Skins right now, I think you need to consider the Shanahan ffactor with O-line. Zone blocking scheme changes everything. The type of players needed, allows for better success by some of our existing lineman, improves chance thsat this line could work as a unit toward success. Don't assume everything is the same as the end of last season and line will fail. There is some serious upside to Shanahan's system. let's give them a chance to show it before we throw them under the bus.

OK, I'll play this game. Name the canidates that are currently on the team that we could concievably start at LT and who would their backup be. Now do the same for RT.

Just because I'm a nice guy I'll give you who they have listed as an OT and currently on their roster:

74 Heyer, Stephon OT 6-6 330 2 years experience
68 Oldenburg, Clint OT 6-5 310 1 year experience
73 Robinson, William OT 6-6 297 2 years experience

MIke Williams is listed as a G/T too.

HAVE FUN!

[brad7686]

Rumors were out there that Shanny liked Bradford and might try to move up to get him. What they gave to the Eagles is about what it would have taken to get the Rams to swap no. 1 picks. Bradford could have sat for a year and learned, while Philly struggles with Kolb for one year, Washington will be without a young QB to build around.

So if the Skins passed on McNabb and gave the #4 and their #2 to move up to the #1 spot then Bradford would have been starting by October after JC had his neck broken in the first two games! Our first chance to get an OT would have been in the 4th round. And that means Colt or Grossman would be starting by week 8-9 after Bradford re-injurs his shoulder when a DL taps him.

You all act like the OL was as bad at the start of the last season as it is right now! Our line is in right now is in FAR WORSE SHAPE than it was at the beginning of last year and worse than it was at any time last year.

Unles we draft a LT in the first, we might as well start Grossman or Colt, because McNabb will get killed behind this pathetic OL.

I guess we could always go out and sign False Start Adams and Levi Jones to play LT & RT, but my wigi board says that they wouldn't last the season and no QB would either, but at least we would have someone that we could line up at both OT spots. Right now we don't have anyone to start at LT or RT!

While I agree that O-line should be the biggest priority for the Skins right now, I think you need to consider the Shanahan ffactor with O-line. Zone blocking scheme changes everything. The type of players needed, allows for better success by some of our existing lineman, improves chance thsat this line could work as a unit toward success. Don't assume everything is the same as the end of last season and line will fail. There is some serious upside to Shanahan's system. let's give them a chance to show it before we throw them under the bus.

OK, I'll play this game. Name the canidates that are currently on the team that we could concievably start at LT and who would their backup be. Now do the same for RT.

Just because I'm a nice guy I'll give you who they have listed as an OT and currently on their roster:

74 Heyer, Stephon OT 6-6 330 2 years experience
68 Oldenburg, Clint OT 6-5 310 1 year experience
73 Robinson, William OT 6-6 297 2 years experience

MIke Williams is listed as a G/T too.

HAVE FUN!

ssshhhhhhhh!

Fleetus doesn't want the truth.

He can't handle the truth.

[fleetus]

Rumors were out there that Shanny liked Bradford and might try to move up to get him. What they gave to the Eagles is about what it would have taken to get the Rams to swap no. 1 picks. Bradford could have sat for a year and learned, while Philly struggles with Kolb for one year, Washington will be without a young QB to build around.

So if the Skins passed on McNabb and gave the #4 and their #2 to move up to the #1 spot then Bradford would have been starting by October after JC had his neck broken in the first two games! Our first chance to get an OT would have been in the 4th round. And that means Colt or Grossman would be starting by week 8-9 after Bradford re-injurs his shoulder when a DL taps him.

You all act like the OL was as bad at the start of the last season as it is right now! Our line is in right now is in FAR WORSE SHAPE than it was at the beginning of last year and worse than it was at any time last year.

Unles we draft a LT in the first, we might as well start Grossman or Colt, because McNabb will get killed behind this pathetic OL.

I guess we could always go out and sign False Start Adams and Levi Jones to play LT & RT, but my wigi board says that they wouldn't last the season and no QB would either, but at least we would have someone that we could line up at both OT spots. Right now we don't have anyone to start at LT or RT!

While I agree that O-line should be the biggest priority for the Skins right now, I think you need to consider the Shanahan ffactor with O-line. Zone blocking scheme changes everything. The type of players needed, allows for better success by some of our existing lineman, improves chance thsat this line could work as a unit toward success. Don't assume everything is the same as the end of last season and line will fail. There is some serious upside to Shanahan's system. let's give them a chance to show it before we throw them under the bus.

OK, I'll play this game. Name the canidates that are currently on the team that we could concievably start at LT and who would their backup be. Now do the same for RT.

Just because I'm a nice guy I'll give you who they have listed as an OT and currently on their roster:

74 Heyer, Stephon OT 6-6 330 2 years experience
68 Oldenburg, Clint OT 6-5 310 1 year experience
73 Robinson, William OT 6-6 297 2 years experience

MIke Williams is listed as a G/T too.

HAVE FUN!

You haven't pointed out anything that changes what I've said. We have some draft picks to make and we need at least one tackle, sure. But you and I don't know who will excel in Shanahan's system and we can't base that prediction solely on how they played last year. So it is silly to continue in that fashion. I stated that I agree the line needs to improve most, so you can get off down off the pulpit now.

[CanesSkins26]

As for McNabb, I have nowhere to go. It's just that I can't see successful teams making trades for any reason but to make themselves better. Also to make a trade to screw someone up requires solving this contradiction

The trade does make them better. They obviously believe that McNabb is on the decline and that Kolb is their future. So they get high draft picks for a guy that they didn't want anyway. Sure seems like a winning trade for Philly.

Good god man, try to be somewhat reasonable about this. Even you would have to admit this trade might make them better at this point. Obviously we have no idea how McNabb will perform in DC but to assert that a McNabb to Kolb swap improves the Eagles is a big stretch. Listen, I am with you, I'm not a big fan of having sacrificed those draft picks, I'd rather just commit to a wholesale rebuild. But Kolb is, at best, a promising unknown, the Eagles HOPE he's better but we're still a long way away from KNOWING he is.

Obviously Kolb could bomb and they would like fools. But I think that from their perspective this move makes a lot of sense. With this trade they now have starters that are 26 or younger at 2 wide receiver spots, tight end, running back, and quarterback. They've seen Kolb more than any of us, and if they think he can be successful, it's a smart move on their part. They now have a young nucleus on offense to build around.

[skinsfan#33]

Rumors were out there that Shanny liked Bradford and might try to move up to get him. What they gave to the Eagles is about what it would have taken to get the Rams to swap no. 1 picks. Bradford could have sat for a year and learned, while Philly struggles with Kolb for one year, Washington will be without a young QB to build around.

So if the Skins passed on McNabb and gave the #4 and their #2 to move up to the #1 spot then Bradford would have been starting by October after JC had his neck broken in the first two games! Our first chance to get an OT would have been in the 4th round. And that means Colt or Grossman would be starting by week 8-9 after Bradford re-injurs his shoulder when a DL taps him.

You all act like the OL was as bad at the start of the last season as it is right now! Our line is in right now is in FAR WORSE SHAPE than it was at the beginning of last year and worse than it was at any time last year.

Unles we draft a LT in the first, we might as well start Grossman or Colt, because McNabb will get killed behind this pathetic OL.

I guess we could always go out and sign False Start Adams and Levi Jones to play LT & RT, but my wigi board says that they wouldn't last the season and no QB would either, but at least we would have someone that we could line up at both OT spots. Right now we don't have anyone to start at LT or RT!

While I agree that O-line should be the biggest priority for the Skins right now, I think you need to consider the Shanahan ffactor with O-line. Zone blocking scheme changes everything. The type of players needed, allows for better success by some of our existing lineman, improves chance thsat this line could work as a unit toward success. Don't assume everything is the same as the end of last season and line will fail. There is some serious upside to Shanahan's system. let's give them a chance to show it before we throw them under the bus.

OK, I'll play this game. Name the canidates that are currently on the team that we could concievably start at LT and who would their backup be. Now do the same for RT.

Just because I'm a nice guy I'll give you who they have listed as an OT and currently on their roster:

74 Heyer, Stephon OT 6-6 330 2 years experience
68 Oldenburg, Clint OT 6-5 310 1 year experience
73 Robinson, William OT 6-6 297 2 years experience

MIke Williams is listed as a G/T too.

HAVE FUN!

You haven't pointed out anything that changes what I've said. We have some draft picks to make and we need at least one tackle, sure. But you and I don't know who will excel in Shanahan's system and we can't base that prediction solely on how they played last year. So it is silly to continue in that fashion. I stated that I agree the line needs to improve most, so you can get off down off the pulpit now.

First, I never was on a pulpit, but maybe I miss understood you. I thought you were hinting that we might be able to field a team with players we have now or could pick up in the 4th, 5th, and 7th round.

So maybe we are saying close to the same thing. All I want to point out is if we go into the season starting anyone who is currently on our roster at either tackle spot, then we are in big trouble.

So I think we need add 3 OTs; two staters and a backup LT. Wherever they get them I just hope they are lucky, because it will take good skill AND lots of luck. Like Beathard had in 1981.

[SkinsJock]

WE ARE NOT GOING TO SEE AN OFFENSIVE LINE HERE THIS SEASON LIKE WE SAW HERE LAST SEASON

first of all the guys in charge here have been replaced by Allen and Shanahan and they will have:
1 a better offensive line (that should not be too hard, considering)
2 a better offensive game plan
3 a better group of coaches (and play callers)
4 a better group of RBs

AND finally .... a MUCH better QB because despite what Schefter thinks, the stupid Eagles made a bad decision not a calculated decision in choosing to get rid of McNabb



I just hope we bring in Bradford as well

[cowboykilla]

Hey man some of ya'll are trippin right now flozell ain't that bad he only allowed 8 sacks last season. Remember that if we trade lazy al we can trade that pick and get jared gaither a proven Lt that started last year. Also we need all the help we can get at free safety cause laron landry is a bum at free safety we need him at strong safety. Meaning we either sign sharper or pick eric berry at 4.