McNabb to St. Louis??

[SnyderSucks]

Listening to Sirius today, they were talking a lot about St. Louis acquiring McNabb for their second round pick and O.J. Otagwe. Now there is a report out of Philly that they are talking about the trade as well. Obviously, if St. Louis picks up a QB, they won't take one #1 overall. That could make Bradford available at four.

I don't pretend to know if Bradford will be a boom or a bust, but having options at four can't be a bad thing. I'm still leaning towards Okung because Bradford scares me as perhaps the next chad pennington. Any way you look at it, though, this gives the team more options at their pick, and if they don't like Bradford, perhaps someone trades up with them to get him. Lots of speculation at this point, but interesting.

[jeremyroyce]

Man, that you be interesting to see McNabb with the Rams.

[SkinsJock]

I have been thinking that this is a possibility for a while

http://www.the-hogs.net/forum/posting.ph ... e&p=495838

I am not sure why St Louis does not see the potential in Bradford but this way they could take Suh with the first pick and still have a decent QB - this could be a team trying to see what they could get too

we'd like to see McNabb out of the division but it then makes a lot of other teams get excited about trading into the 3 spot to get Bradford before we pick him

[tribeofjudah]

Don't want Bradford here. We have COLT Brennan....!!!! Hail

[NEWSKINSFAN119]

Don't want Bradford here. We have COLT Brennan....!!!! Hail

Really COLT He was a good college QB but all he will every be is a 3 and if he is lucky maybe a 2 he is just not that talented. Sam Bradford was being talked about as the clear #1 choice had he come in 2009, the only thing that is causing doubt about Bradford is his shoulder and we have to remember that Drew Brees the guy who just won a super bowl had a very similar injury ( yeah Brees was established before). I am by no means advocating getting Bradford I want Okung but if Shanahan wants his guy and he believes that Sam I am is the man he will get him and then get his left tackle later.

[CanesSkins26]

If the Rams trade for McNabb and Bradford is availble at #4, i have no doubt that we take him.

[SKINFAN]

Don't want Bradford here. We have COLT Brennan....!!!! Hail

Really COLT He was a good college QB but all he will every be is a 3 and if he is lucky maybe a 2 he is just not that talented. Sam Bradford was being talked about as the clear #1 choice had he come in 2009, the only thing that is causing doubt about Bradford is his shoulder and we have to remember that Drew Brees the guy who just won a super bowl had a very similar injury ( yeah Brees was established before). I am by no means advocating getting Bradford I want Okung but if Shanahan wants his guy and he believes that Sam I am is the man he will get him and then get his left tackle later.

Colt was good in college, so was Bradford. But Bradford is damaged goods (till he proves otherwise). Picking him at #4 is a huge risk specially with the glaring needs at the line. It's a losing bet... If he does pan out to be the real deal, he'd get killed because we don't have a line. There will be other QB's that will come out in the next few years.

[cleg]

We don't want the Eagles to trade McNabb. With McNabb they have proven they cannot win big games. Without him, who knows.

[SkinsJock]

I think there is a lot of BS around potential trades and deals, just like every year before the draft

BUT - it makes no sense for fans to constantly point out that a team with a terrible offensive line is going to select a QB that they think might be able to be their starting QB for 10-12 years AND then put him in a situation that might affect his future - thinking that shows that you know next to nothing about the game

GET WITH IT

I'm not sure that this franchise is going to get Bradford or Claussen but if they do I would be very surprised if they would risk his or any player's future by using him before the situation was to both the team and the player's benefit


This franchise is going to be completely rebuilt and one of the parts that need attention and will see a huge change is the offensive line but there are going to be changes at a lot of positions and whether we bring in a new QB or a new offesive lineman or a defensive back or a linebacker - the player will not be used until he can both contribute and make the other players around him better

I'm a dumb Aussie but I can tell that these guys running this franchise know what they are doing and they are not using any player at any position that might hurt the team's chances of being successful OR the player's future




We need to rebuild this offensive line, we also need a lot of other players as well AND we need a good QB - that is the most important part of any franchise and we certainly know how hard it is to be successful without one

[riggofan]

We don't want the Eagles to trade McNabb. With McNabb they have proven they cannot win big games. Without him, who knows.

Its funny to look at a QB who has been to so many NFC Championships, the Super Bowl and makes the playoffs nearly every year and say that he can't win big games. The only big game McNabb hasn't won in his NFL career is the SB, right? What other big games has he proven that he can't win? Name any other big game in the NFL that McNabb has played in, and I can give you an example of him having won that game at least once. So you probably need to change your statement to "McNabb has proven he can't win the super bowl".

Anyway, I'm getting off track here just cos I found that statement irritating. Personally I would love to see the Eagles trade McNabb and get to play Kevin Kolb twice a year instead. I don't think that McNabb is the greatest QB ever to play, but he has been a pain at times for the Redskins.

[KazooSkinsFan]

Obviously, if St. Louis picks up a QB, they won't take one #1 overall

This isn't obvious at all. It would make perfect sense to pick up a vet and draft Bradford to groom a year

[SnyderSucks]

Obviously, if St. Louis picks up a QB, they won't take one #1 overall

This isn't obvious at all. It would make perfect sense to pick up a vet and draft Bradford to groom a year

It makes sense to pick up a free agent like Jeff Garcia or keep the guy they already have, if they were going to draft Bradford. It makes absolutely no sense at all to use the #1 overall pick on a QB who will get a huge contract, then trade the #33 pick and a starting caliber safety for another QB who also wants a huge contract and wants to play for four or five more years. Not even Vinny Cerrato or Matt Millen would do this sort of thing.

[SkinsJock]

I'm not sure that I would gve up a shot at Bradford but the 'thinking' is that IF the Rams get McNabb or Kolb they would then get either Okung or more likely Suh with the first pick - instant upgrade, big time

but I'm not sure that I wouldn't want Bradford if the guys that know better than I do think he's that good - we are going to still need a lot of help over the next 3 drafts to remake this team no matter who we pick at 4 - this team is not close to being consistently competitive and even if all 5 players make the team this year we'll still need another draft plus to redo all the mess that we're in right now

[The Hogster]

Eagles fans are dumb! Soon they will realize what it is like to really not have a Quarterback. They've been wanting to get rid of him ever since he was drafted.

[1niksder]

Obviously, if St. Louis picks up a QB, they won't take one #1 overall

This isn't obvious at all. It would make perfect sense to pick up a vet and draft Bradford to groom a year

It makes sense to pick up a free agent like Jeff Garcia or keep the guy they already have, if they were going to draft Bradford. It makes absolutely no sense at all to use the #1 overall pick on a QB who will get a huge contract, then trade the #33 pick and a starting caliber safety for another QB who also wants a huge contract and wants to play for four or five more years. Not even Vinny Cerrato or Matt Millen would do this sort of thing.

I disagree that sounds just like something Vinny would do.

[KazooSkinsFan]

Obviously, if St. Louis picks up a QB, they won't take one #1 overall

This isn't obvious at all. It would make perfect sense to pick up a vet and draft Bradford to groom a year

It makes sense to pick up a free agent like Jeff Garcia or keep the guy they already have, if they were going to draft Bradford. It makes absolutely no sense at all to use the #1 overall pick on a QB who will get a huge contract, then trade the #33 pick and a starting caliber safety for another QB who also wants a huge contract and wants to play for four or five more years. Not even Vinny Cerrato or Matt Millen would do this sort of thing.

You mentioned a specific scenario, then said generally if they pick up a quarterback they aren't going to get Bradford. I agree if they give up a #2, which given their slot is essentially a #1, then they probably wouldn't, though there's a reason bad teams are bad. But I was referring to the general statement not the specific scenario.

I'm not sure I agree either that anyone picking up McNabb now is thinking 4-5 years anymore. Maybe hoping, but not thinking that.