This draft we have to look at the offensive line

[newcastleskinsfan]

I can't belive people are discussing Bradford or Clausen . We should be looking at Russell Okung , and only Russell Okung .

He's got all the ability to start at OT but if he is to have a bedding period he is just as good a player at guard .

I fully expect the Skins to have a shocker next year and i don't see the point in a young qb comming in to be under so much pressure and a huge target for the sack machines of the NFC East .

[frankcal20]

Welcome to the site NewCastle Fan. You'll find that the majority of the fan base here thinks that the Skins should go after Okung or trade down to acquire more picks.

[newcastleskinsfan]

thanks for the welcome .

for me it's a no brainer , i know mock drafts are often way off the mark , but so many have us going for a QB .

I find this alarming considering the Samuels situation .

[tribeofjudah]

Wow, we could have Okung + Orakpo... How about Chung King or Trung Candidate... oh wait, he's retired.

[frankcal20]

HA

[chiefhog44]

Trade down and get some more picks and pick up a couple steals in the later rounds. Easy as that

[Redskin in Canada]

I can't belive people are discussing Bradford or Clausen . We should be looking at Russell Okung , and only Russell Okung .

I agree with the main point of OL but not closing other options. We should not be that predictable.

[Countertrey]

Shanahan is no fool. Allen is no fool. I have to suspect that they have a plan. There are strong arguments to be made for a focus on OL... there is also a strong argument to be made for grabbing a "franchise" QB if one is availible.

No matter what direction they go, there are potential rewards... and potential risks.

I'm going to just enjoy the ride.

[KazooSkinsFan]

Trade down and get some more picks and pick up a couple steals in the later rounds. Easy as that

I'm with you!

We should trade the Saints for their at #9 in the first round and the rest of their draft board. Then we trade Hershel Walker to the Vikings for two later first round picks this year and their first round picks the next two years. Then we trade our third round pick for someone's second round pick and pick up a fifth rounder in the process. Then, we start really dealing for more picks....

[BossHog]

Trade down and get some more picks and pick up a couple steals in the later rounds. Easy as that

I think that's very difficult - not easy.

I'm totally in agreement with the premise myself.

I think the Redskins would love to do that as well - especially with someone still in the top half of the draft... it's just not easy to do on Draft day. And it's even harder when there are so few clear cut superstars, but a lot of good quality, players.

The combine could bring out some 'sexier' picks but right now, I just don't think there's enough upper echelon talent for someone to move up in the draft and give up a pick when there is deep, serviceable talent.



Oh and if the Redskins do pick at number four - I'm totally in agreement that Okung should be the name called. I'd want to take him even if Samuels were coming back, but the fact that he isn't makes the move pretty much essentail as far as I'm concerned. The 'worst' thing that could happen is Samuels returns, and Okung gets a year to learn or even plays the right side.

[fredp45]

This sport we love is very simple...games are won as a result of line play.

The Redskins won Super Bowls with average qbs -- but outstanding o and d lines.

Pick Okung in the 1st and the best guard in the 2nd, after that, I don't care! Pick Tebow with our 4th rounder, for all I care.

[frankcal20]

Trade down and get some more picks and pick up a couple steals in the later rounds. Easy as that

I think that's very difficult - not easy.

I'm totally in agreement with the premise myself.

I think the Redskins would love to do that as well - especially with someone still in the top half of the draft... it's just not easy to do on Draft day. And it's even harder when there are so few clear cut superstars, but a lot of good quality, players.

The combine could bring out some 'sexier' picks but right now, I just don't think there's enough upper echelon talent for someone to move up in the draft and give up a pick when there is deep, serviceable talent.

My 2 cents

Oh and if the Redskins do pick at number four - I'm totally in agreement that Okung should be the name called. I'd want to take him even if Samuels were coming back, but the fact that he isn't makes the move pretty much essentail as far as I'm concerned. The 'worst' thing that could happen is Samuels returns, and Okung gets a year to learn or even plays the right side.

I agree that it's hard. We're very lucky to have still the Scouting Combine and all the player's Pro Days. What's great also is that once there are a few huge numbers like say CJ Spiller who'll defiantly be around, I could see a team making a move up to get him. The only problem is that Snyder doesn't have to be stingy with the pick. You don't want to be screwed but if you can move around the draft, there are quite a few starting caliber lineman that can be gotten in the 1st - 3rd rounds per Mike Mayock of NFL Network. But if we take Okung, I'll be happy as hell. If we trade out, I'll be happy but then I'll be a bit nervous until I see who we pick.

[SkinsJock]

I can't belive people are discussing Bradford or Clausen . We should be looking at Russell Okung, and only Russell Okung .
He's got all the ability to start at OT but if he is to have a bedding period he is just as good a player at guard .
I fully expect the Skins to have a shocker next year and I don't see the point in a young qb coming in to be under so much pressure and a huge target for the sack machines of the NFC East .

c'mon guys! IF (and it is a big IF) we bring in a QB like Claussen or Bradford, there is no way he will be put in to play unless both the Shanahan's think he will be prepared and able to handle the offense AND that the offensive line can protect him



we have some here that would like to think that with some improvement in the areas of coaching, game planning, and personnel, this franchise can be and should be competitive in 2011 and maybe even contend for a playoff spot in 2011 or 2012 at the latest - in other words, do whatever it takes to make this franchise competitive as quickly as possible - this is very similar to what we have gone through here for the last 10 years

I am hoping the FO takes whatever steps are needed to get a consistently competitive product on the field and I think that will take a few years - in that time they will have many areas of team needs to address, so, I really do not see just targeting the offensive line as much of a priority as the priority of what is going to be good for the franchise in 2012 and beyond - we need to add players and coaches for the long haul not for the short sighted - if they think a player (drafted OR free agent) is going to be great for this franchise for the next 10-12 years then it really does not matter to me what position that player plays

we are most likely going to be a better team this coming year just because of the change in management and the new coaching staff - that being said, I also think we will continue to get a little better in the next couple of years - OKAY - just my opinion, but I do not see this franchise having a top 5 pick again for a while so if we cannot find a way to move that pick then we better find a really good player who is going to be contributing to the franchise for many years - a top 5 pick is an opportunity to take a player that must be really good for many years at any position NOT just a position of need right now

bottom line is we need as many picks as we can get in the draft for the next 3-4 years and we need to plan for 2012 and beyond not just for what is hopefully going to help this franchise become competitive this year and next - wishing and hoping is what got us into this mess

[riggofan]

Trade down and get some more picks and pick up a couple steals in the later rounds. Easy as that

I think that's very difficult - not easy.

I'm totally in agreement with the premise myself.

Yep that's really the problem. Every year there are a couple teams at the top of the draft who want to trade down. Not always an option.

I like the premise though too. We don't have a third rounder this year, so it would nice to make up for that. I wonder what the #4 pick would be worth?

[BossHog]

Yep that's really the problem. Every year there are a couple teams at the top of the draft who want to trade down. Not always an option.

I like the premise though too. We don't have a third rounder this year, so it would nice to make up for that. I wonder what the #4 pick would be worth?

According to the chart I have, the number four pick is worth 1800 points. The first pick in the third round is only worth 265 points.

For comparison sake... the #10 overall is only worth 1300 points... and the 10th pick in the second round is worth 480 points. So technically... if the Skins dropped to even tenth overall, they'd be able to pick up an extra 2nd rounder.

Another scenario would be to drop to say twelfth and pick up a teams' second AND third round picks for doing so.

13th overall - 1150
45th overall (13th in the 2nd) - 450
77th overall (13th in the 3rd) - 205

1150+450+205 = 1805 points

I'm not suggesting the Redskins are going to make a deal with the 49ers, just giving an idea of trade value.

[BossHog]

For reference sake, i posted the chart in the blog section:

http://www.the-hogs.net/blogs/2010/01/29 ... lue-chart/

I also posted the draft order earlier today...

http://www.the-hogs.net/blogs/2010/01/29 ... aft-order/

[SkinsJock]

Thanks Boss - that's a great help - I understand that it's not easy to move out of a top 5 pick but I sure hope we can manage to do that unless the boys in charge have someone in mind that can be a great player for many years

[chiefhog44]

Trade down and get some more picks and pick up a couple steals in the later rounds. Easy as that

I think that's very difficult - not easy.

I'm totally in agreement with the premise myself.

I think the Redskins would love to do that as well - especially with someone still in the top half of the draft... it's just not easy to do on Draft day. And it's even harder when there are so few clear cut superstars, but a lot of good quality, players.

The combine could bring out some 'sexier' picks but right now, I just don't think there's enough upper echelon talent for someone to move up in the draft and give up a pick when there is deep, serviceable talent.



Oh and if the Redskins do pick at number four - I'm totally in agreement that Okung should be the name called. I'd want to take him even if Samuels were coming back, but the fact that he isn't makes the move pretty much essentail as far as I'm concerned. The 'worst' thing that could happen is Samuels returns, and Okung gets a year to learn or even plays the right side.

I agree that it's hard. We're very lucky to have still the Scouting Combine and all the player's Pro Days. What's great also is that once there are a few huge numbers like say CJ Spiller who'll defiantly be around, I could see a team making a move up to get him. The only problem is that Snyder doesn't have to be stingy with the pick. You don't want to be screwed but if you can move around the draft, there are quite a few starting caliber lineman that can be gotten in the 1st - 3rd rounds per Mike Mayock of NFL Network. But if we take Okung, I'll be happy as hell. If we trade out, I'll be happy but then I'll be a bit nervous until I see who we pick.

I'm being facetious. I'd love to trade our pick for the entire first round, but that ain't gonna happen.

[Wahoo McDaniels]

A little off topic...but quick question: Who was the luckiest player of the 2009 Redskins Draft?

Correct Answer: Cody Glenn.


Not only did he lie during the interviews as to why he was suspended, and not get caught until after the draft, he was drafted by the Skins in the 5th Round, cut during Pre-season thereby avoiding a season of turmoil, Signed by the Colts and now he is a special teams player with a chance to win a Super Bowl Ring.

[brad7686]

A little off topic...but quick question: Who was the luckiest player of the 2009 Redskins Draft?

Correct Answer: Cody Glenn.


Not only did he lie during the interviews as to why he was suspended, and not get caught until after the draft, he was drafted by the Skins in the 5th Round, cut during Pre-season thereby avoiding a season of turmoil, Signed by the Colts and now he is a special teams player with a chance to win a Super Bowl Ring.

He was lucky to even be drafted. He didn't even have a position. There are plenty of Undrafted FA's who can play special teams.

[NEWSKINSFAN119]

You know I think we should take Bradford at 4 but only if he is healthy, it all depends on what he does at the combine and his pro day , we know he has the intangibles the questions are really his shoulder , arm strength and his adjusting to playing under center. If he doesn't pass those tests then you go with Okung In the second if we can get a OT/OG like Charles Brown who fits Shanahan's zone blocking system or get the BPA to fill any of the following needs (RB,DB,OG) then in the fourth round we can go BLA (best lineman offensive or defensive) and the fifth round and on its BPA. In free agency we have to target a OL like a Marcus McNeill , resign Levi Jones and target some other OLs for depth along the line