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Bravo Jason Campbell, well said. I wish him the best of luck wherever he lands and I even moreso now want Clinton Portis off this team.frankcal20 wrote:Here is Jason Campbell's response to Portis' quotes about him:Campbell fires back at Portis
Washington Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell blasted Clinton Portis for his poor work ethic and lack of understanding about "what real leadership is," responding to Portis' comments earlier in the day about Campbell.
Campbell, selected one of six team captains by teammates the last two seasons, called out Portis for putting himself above the team and, in his opinion, an overall lack of professionalism Portis has exhibited in Campbell's five seasons in Washington.
Which player do you side with in Portis vs. Campbell?
"How is he going to say I'm not a leader?" Campbell said in a lengthy phone interview. "I mean, that's just not true. To me, that's somebody who shows that they don't know what a real leader is. A leader is not someone who leads by the wrong example. A leader is someone who is trying to do the right thing and trying to lead by example, and not just [being] about themselves. There's a reason guys get selected as captains, and there's a reason guys don't get selected as captains. Obviously, he doesn't have the respect of the locker room to be a captain. For someone to try to take a shot at me at the end of the season, after they haven't even been around, only speaks about their character anyways.
"There have been a lot of things I could have come out and said. But I never went out of my way to make those things known. I never wanted those things to leave the locker room because it's no one else's business. And for those things to be said, questioning my character and questioning my leadership, I think that's not the way to go, especially when you're supposed to be a team guy. Is that being a good teammate? If that's the case, why is no one questioning my leadership and everyone is questioning his work ethic? Everyone looks at that. I'm not going to get into an argument; I don't even like talking about stuff like this because it makes no sense and it doesn't help the team, but I'm going to speak my mind on it when this is what he's saying about me."
Portis's seemingly cozy relationship with owner Daniel Snyder has stirred resentment in the locker room because he rarely practices. Campbell is "not ready for that situation," Portis said of the quarterback's captaincy. "I think Jason has enough trouble in getting the plays in and worrying about this, compared to controlling the huddle and making sure, 'Oh, we do this and we do that.' But you go and vote Jason Campbell [as captain] -- you know Jason Campbell ain't go and tell the coach, 'Well, we need to do this or we need to do that,' or 'This is how the players want it.' The only person I think would do it is London Fletcher."
Campbell said the comment pointed to Portis' obliviousness to the facts, Campbell said.
"We [all the captains] do go to the coaches. It's not our fault if the coaches decide they're not going to [do what the captains suggest]," Campbell said. "But we have some guys who go above the coaches. And that's another problem. You have some players who are not team players.
"They don't do the things teammates do to help each other. And then at the end of the season, when it's been a hard season, you want to point fingers at other people because you're upset about your own shortcomings? You're upset because you get into it with your teammates because of what you do?"
During a 16-13 victory Oct. 4 over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Portis went to coaches in an effort to have Pro Bowl fullback Mike Sellers demoted for what Portis deemed to be poor blocking. Sellers eventually confronted Portis during a heated locker-room exchange in which no punches were thrown, team sources said, but Mike Sellers essentially told Portis his teammates did not respect him because of his me-first approach.
"Not one time have I come out and made any excuses about anything with my situation," Campbell said. "I never do anything to try to hurt my teammates. Some people need to stop being 'me' guys and start being 'we' guys. And another thing, and I want you to write this, too, how does he even know what's going on with our team?
"How's he [going to] question anything when for those four or five weeks before he was on IR [the season-ending injured-reserve list], he never even came around. He wasn't with us. He was never at practice. Who does he think was holding the offense together? He should go ask the coaches and the players if he wants to know. But he wasn't around to do that. He doesn't know anything about leadership."
Campbell said he was disappointed about airing private team matters in public, and especially frustrated that Portis would verbally attack him with the Redskins apparently close to making a long-anticipated announcement that former Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan has been hired as their next head coach. This is not the type of thing Snyder, General Manager Bruce Allen and Shanahan need to be confronted with at a time like this, but Portis left him no choice, Campbell said.
"You've got guys out there working their butts off, guys out there practicing and doing everything they need to do to prepare for Sundays, and you see him over there getting special treatment," Campbell said of Portis. "What does that say about him? I go out, I get beat down on Sundays, and I still have to go out and practice and get ready for games. And that's what your supposed to do.
"If you're about your team and trying to help your team, if you're not about yourself, you deal with the pain and that's what you do. What makes it so different for others? I mean, this is what's wrong with our team. Instead of a guy coming to you if he has a problem, instead of going to talk to the person, you go speak out loud in public. How does that help? How does that help the team?"
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frankcal20 wrote:sorry for the double post but just easier this way:
This is what a lot of you wanted. In my opinion, he just verbally slapped him around. What can Portis say now? Nuh uhhhhhh
This has been rumored that he didn't practice or wasn't even at the facility. We all know about his lack of effort in Training Camp and he doesn't even do OTA's.
I think he just showed & said why he's a leader.
Exactly. That's why he was voted a team captain unlike CP.
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CP should shut up. He's always running his trap. JC put his body on the line for the Redskins and has done a great job. CP has been constantly injured and has deteriorating skills.
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You either think Jason is capable of winning a SB or not.
I do not. Here is why, even with the best oline in the league you are going to have games, playoff games, if your lucky championship games where you WILL be pressured it is a garauntee, Jason is a deer in the headlights whenever faced with any pressure, he doesn't step up or elude in the pocket, is he better than Brunell yes, but is he our answer at QB no.
This back and forth with Portis is ridiculous, Portis didn't say anything untrue about Jason, and now Jason is all offended and blasting Portis in the Post saying things like Portis doesn't know what leadership is and blah blah blah, Jason can go and if Shanny so chooses so can CP, but CP is 10 times more valuable because I believe you can win a SB with CP behind a Shanahan built Oline.
I do not. Here is why, even with the best oline in the league you are going to have games, playoff games, if your lucky championship games where you WILL be pressured it is a garauntee, Jason is a deer in the headlights whenever faced with any pressure, he doesn't step up or elude in the pocket, is he better than Brunell yes, but is he our answer at QB no.
This back and forth with Portis is ridiculous, Portis didn't say anything untrue about Jason, and now Jason is all offended and blasting Portis in the Post saying things like Portis doesn't know what leadership is and blah blah blah, Jason can go and if Shanny so chooses so can CP, but CP is 10 times more valuable because I believe you can win a SB with CP behind a Shanahan built Oline.
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Not a good thing for Portis to do - he's the big loser with this - kudos to Campbell for the way he's handled himself BUT these guys are in for a huge wake-up call now that Shanahan is in charge here - even if you're one of Snyder's favorites (Portis) or not (Campbell) Mike will toss guys for this in the future
players trashing anything publicly will not be tolerated by Mike
players trashing anything publicly will not be tolerated by Mike
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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frankcal20 wrote:Here is Jason Campbell's response to Portis' quotes about him:Campbell fires back at Portis
Washington Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell blasted Clinton Portis for his poor work ethic and lack of understanding about "what real leadership is," responding to Portis' comments earlier in the day about Campbell.
Campbell, selected one of six team captains by teammates the last two seasons, called out Portis for putting himself above the team and, in his opinion, an overall lack of professionalism Portis has exhibited in Campbell's five seasons in Washington.
Which player do you side with in Portis vs. Campbell?
"How is he going to say I'm not a leader?" Campbell said in a lengthy phone interview. "I mean, that's just not true. To me, that's somebody who shows that they don't know what a real leader is. A leader is not someone who leads by the wrong example. A leader is someone who is trying to do the right thing and trying to lead by example, and not just [being] about themselves. There's a reason guys get selected as captains, and there's a reason guys don't get selected as captains. Obviously, he doesn't have the respect of the locker room to be a captain. For someone to try to take a shot at me at the end of the season, after they haven't even been around, only speaks about their character anyways.
"There have been a lot of things I could have come out and said. But I never went out of my way to make those things known. I never wanted those things to leave the locker room because it's no one else's business. And for those things to be said, questioning my character and questioning my leadership, I think that's not the way to go, especially when you're supposed to be a team guy. Is that being a good teammate? If that's the case, why is no one questioning my leadership and everyone is questioning his work ethic? Everyone looks at that. I'm not going to get into an argument; I don't even like talking about stuff like this because it makes no sense and it doesn't help the team, but I'm going to speak my mind on it when this is what he's saying about me."
Portis's seemingly cozy relationship with owner Daniel Snyder has stirred resentment in the locker room because he rarely practices. Campbell is "not ready for that situation," Portis said of the quarterback's captaincy. "I think Jason has enough trouble in getting the plays in and worrying about this, compared to controlling the huddle and making sure, 'Oh, we do this and we do that.' But you go and vote Jason Campbell [as captain] -- you know Jason Campbell ain't go and tell the coach, 'Well, we need to do this or we need to do that,' or 'This is how the players want it.' The only person I think would do it is London Fletcher."
Campbell said the comment pointed to Portis' obliviousness to the facts, Campbell said.
"We [all the captains] do go to the coaches. It's not our fault if the coaches decide they're not going to [do what the captains suggest]," Campbell said. "But we have some guys who go above the coaches. And that's another problem. You have some players who are not team players.
"They don't do the things teammates do to help each other. And then at the end of the season, when it's been a hard season, you want to point fingers at other people because you're upset about your own shortcomings? You're upset because you get into it with your teammates because of what you do?"
During a 16-13 victory Oct. 4 over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Portis went to coaches in an effort to have Pro Bowl fullback Mike Sellers demoted for what Portis deemed to be poor blocking. Sellers eventually confronted Portis during a heated locker-room exchange in which no punches were thrown, team sources said, but Mike Sellers essentially told Portis his teammates did not respect him because of his me-first approach.
"Not one time have I come out and made any excuses about anything with my situation," Campbell said. "I never do anything to try to hurt my teammates. Some people need to stop being 'me' guys and start being 'we' guys. And another thing, and I want you to write this, too, how does he even know what's going on with our team?
"How's he [going to] question anything when for those four or five weeks before he was on IR [the season-ending injured-reserve list], he never even came around. He wasn't with us. He was never at practice. Who does he think was holding the offense together? He should go ask the coaches and the players if he wants to know. But he wasn't around to do that. He doesn't know anything about leadership."
Campbell said he was disappointed about airing private team matters in public, and especially frustrated that Portis would verbally attack him with the Redskins apparently close to making a long-anticipated announcement that former Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan has been hired as their next head coach. This is not the type of thing Snyder, General Manager Bruce Allen and Shanahan need to be confronted with at a time like this, but Portis left him no choice, Campbell said.
"You've got guys out there working their butts off, guys out there practicing and doing everything they need to do to prepare for Sundays, and you see him over there getting special treatment," Campbell said of Portis. "What does that say about him? I go out, I get beat down on Sundays, and I still have to go out and practice and get ready for games. And that's what your supposed to do.
"If you're about your team and trying to help your team, if you're not about yourself, you deal with the pain and that's what you do. What makes it so different for others? I mean, this is what's wrong with our team. Instead of a guy coming to you if he has a problem, instead of going to talk to the person, you go speak out loud in public. How does that help? How does that help the team?"
AWW HELL YEA JC KICK HIS ASS SEABASS!! Love hearing JC finally say something against all the crap that gets said about him![/quote]
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I'm sorry JC let his guard down and spoke at length like that. Yes, everything that he said is true. Still, I think it would have been smarter in the long run to pass on that opportunity to comment (like he has countless times before). Clinton Portis said what he did because (a) he's gone anyway, and (b) even if he wasn't gone, he's somehow got Snyder by the nuts. Not to mention the kind of personal character (or lack thereof) it takes to call out a teammate like that. Whatever good Portis was for this franchise in 2005, 2008 and 2009 are quickly dirtying his accomplishments: both his on-field play and his off-field antics.
However, Jason should have just held on a few more weeks, and remained silent. He only lowers himself closer to Portis's level by commenting. Better for Jason to focus on his own future: he still has a great chance to be a backup somewhere, and maybe with some luck find another shot at a starting role. I can understand his frustration, but I think in the long run it harms him.
However, Jason should have just held on a few more weeks, and remained silent. He only lowers himself closer to Portis's level by commenting. Better for Jason to focus on his own future: he still has a great chance to be a backup somewhere, and maybe with some luck find another shot at a starting role. I can understand his frustration, but I think in the long run it harms him.
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1niksder wrote:RayNAustin wrote:
If you're missing the point ... here it is ... Portis has been THE OFFENSE on this team, and he has always been ridden into the ground without a lot of help from those around him, yet Zorn singled him out ... had open confrontations with him in front of the players and the TV crowd.
Portis has a right to have an attitude.
Portis has been THE OFFENSE on this team BEFORE Zorn arrived... Gibbs and Saunders ran him into the ground (having him add weight didn't help either). It wasn't CP or JC's jobs to get help for them. Zorn singled him out because he talks too much and hasn'r done anything in a long time.
Maybe he calls it like the fans see it so often because that's all he has been for the last year and a half
I'm throwing a flag on this post (and the one right before it) for unnecessary roughness. Damn, 1nik . . . you've been away, but did you have to come back in full force like that?!

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Irn-Bru wrote:1niksder wrote:RayNAustin wrote:
If you're missing the point ... here it is ... Portis has been THE OFFENSE on this team, and he has always been ridden into the ground without a lot of help from those around him, yet Zorn singled him out ... had open confrontations with him in front of the players and the TV crowd.
Portis has a right to have an attitude.
Portis has been THE OFFENSE on this team BEFORE Zorn arrived... Gibbs and Saunders ran him into the ground (having him add weight didn't help either). It wasn't CP or JC's jobs to get help for them. Zorn singled him out because he talks too much and hasn'r done anything in a long time.
Maybe he calls it like the fans see it so often because that's all he has been for the last year and a half
I'm throwing a flag on this post (and the one right before it) for unnecessary roughness. Damn, 1nik . . . you've been away, but did you have to come back in full force like that?!
All I can say is that I hope Shannahan's future isn't tied to the Great Jason Campbell, who in my view has been the huge boat anchor weighing this offense down for 4 years, while Portis has been trying to drag it into the endzone.
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Campbell: Portis calls to clear the air
Just received a text from quarterback Jason Campbell, who said running back Clinton Portis called to clear the air about his comments today regarding Campbell's leadership ability.
In his weekly appearance on ESPN 980's "The John Thompson Show," Portis questioned whether Campbell has the right demeanor to be a leader and team captain. In response to Portis's comments, Campbell blasted Portis for, in Campbell's opinion, Portis's poor work habits and lack of understanding about what is expected of true leaders.
Campbell declined to reveal the specifics of his conversation with Portis, but "we're just going to move on," the text read. "We don't want to have any issues out there between us for the offseason, so we're just going to squash all of this right now."
In texts I received from several of Campbell's teammates, they told me they were glad Campbell spoke out. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Campbell as a quarterback, his teammates wrote, he leads by example, and his toughness and dedication to his teammates is considered second to none in the locker room.
Campbell was battered throughout the season (only two quarterbacks were sacked more) while playing behind one of the league's worst offensive lines. He has earned the respect of his teammates.
If Portis didn't want his comments about Campbell's leadership abilities to be misconstrued, one player told me, he shouldn't have said anything about Campbell.
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I think the reason why many of us fan's dislike him is b/c of his continued disrespect for other teammates. He doesn't attend OTA's, he doesn't really do training camp, he doesn't practice and in the end, he calls out his teammates like Seller's and JC. I think it's just plain classless.
Someone said that JC has a "woe is me" kinda thing. I think that he's been further from that. And as many times as he's gotten his butt kicked game after game, he's remainded that guys came out there and gave everything they had. He didn't include that everything they had - even though they suck!!!!
So, for a guy to stand up for himself when a selfish person who, as stated earlier only has a ME personality calls him out and attacks him personally, that's a good thing in my opinion and I would say that putting someone in their place is the direct definition of leadership - regardless of the W/L record or anyone's personal feels on him as a player.
Someone said that JC has a "woe is me" kinda thing. I think that he's been further from that. And as many times as he's gotten his butt kicked game after game, he's remainded that guys came out there and gave everything they had. He didn't include that everything they had - even though they suck!!!!
So, for a guy to stand up for himself when a selfish person who, as stated earlier only has a ME personality calls him out and attacks him personally, that's a good thing in my opinion and I would say that putting someone in their place is the direct definition of leadership - regardless of the W/L record or anyone's personal feels on him as a player.
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Irn-Bru wrote:1niksder wrote:RayNAustin wrote:
If you're missing the point ... here it is ... Portis has been THE OFFENSE on this team, and he has always been ridden into the ground without a lot of help from those around him, yet Zorn singled him out ... had open confrontations with him in front of the players and the TV crowd.
Portis has a right to have an attitude.
Portis has been THE OFFENSE on this team BEFORE Zorn arrived... Gibbs and Saunders ran him into the ground (having him add weight didn't help either). It wasn't CP or JC's jobs to get help for them. Zorn singled him out because he talks too much and hasn'r done anything in a long time.
Maybe he calls it like the fans see it so often because that's all he has been for the last year and a half
I'm throwing a flag on this post (and the one right before it) for unnecessary roughness. Damn, 1nik . . . you've been away, but did you have to come back in full force like that?!
Like Portis, I figured JC wouldn't respond. I said what I thought he should say if he were the type of player that would respond. I'm glad I was wrong and he replied to what CP said... don't think Portis was too happy though.
I think Portis picked a bad time to pick on Jason. Had JC said nothing the new regime would only have what CP had to say as public record. These guys don't know much about JC and to hear this on the "team's radio station" the day they take over showed them a little bit about JC. Funny thing is - it's a side we've never seen before.
IMO they need Campbell more than they need Portis. It's a proven fact that he can take the pounding of not having a line in front of him. Portis has proven he can't. They can't just draft a QB and throw him behind a brand new line, Campbell has been running for his life for years, doing it another year or two gives Mike and Kyle time to develop the QB of the future. Isn't Shanahan the same Shanahan that could develop running backs that simply by putting them in his scheme.
Portis likes to talk maybe he'll be the first player to be traded by two different teams but by the same coach. Even better maybe Mike can trade him to Denver for a couple of offensive linemen.
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Fios wrote:Man ... I don't want to dislike CP, I still think he's sadly unappreciated by many Redskins fans but this is too much, this disappoints me.
You took the words right out of my mouth. I'm an avid Portis defender but I'm very disappointed in this recent outburst.
But... It's like, JC why show some nads now? Where was this in week 2.
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