Haynesworth rips coaching staff

[DEHog]

It seems to me that:

- Haynesworth was not under attack

- If the media criticizes him, it's best to say nothing

- If anyone replies, it ought to be the coaches defending their players.

Have you WATCHED the post game interviews? The pressers? They're a freakin joke. Zorn comes out smiling after a 49-12 drubbing. Last nite after the Dallas game, he's completely wrong on the stats ("we're like 4-13 now","we were 2/10 on 3rd down conversions") and he's an idiot. A GOD FORSAKEN IDIOT!!! Jerry Gray says so little, he might as well not even speak to Kelli Johnson.

I like that someone has the balls to come out and speak their minds, b/c the coaches seem completely content to be 4-12 (and we will be next week going off previous performance). No one is upset, no one shows frustration. No one but us fans. I like that Haynesworth's not afraid to speak his mind.
If he came out and had everything rosie and happy, no one would be complaining. This regime is a joke and it's about time they've been exposed to the romper room stupidity that is the 2009 Washington Redskins.

Yea I caught that..It really says a lot about where his head is at...but everything I read on the boards today are symptoms of the mismanagement of this team by it's owner...Gibbs was able to hide it with good coaching… Zorn...no way...but it's not his fault!!

Gibbs may have hid the symptoms, but how good did he really do? We backed in to the playoffs to set a record for least amount of offensive yards in a playoff win, and then got sent home by the Seahawks. It was a defensive game, Gibbs is not a defensive guy.

Are you complaing about going to the playoffs?? The fact he got to the playoffs 2 of the 4 years and won a game is a credit to how great a coach he is. And I don't see winning 5/4 in a row as backing in.

And the lack of consistancy is on the coaches, not Danny. Zorn got stripped of playcalling duties b/c he was horribly inept. That's not Danny's fault. Zorn can't keep his team motivated. That's not Danny's fault. I wish people would stop giving all the blame to Dan Snyder. Dan Snyder is not making the corners play 10 yards off. Dan Snyder is not making LL take bad angles and hit instead of wrap up. Dan Snyder is not calling 77% of the plays to be thrown within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage

SO Gibbs doesn't get credit for what he did but it's all Zorn fault for the failures?? Got it!

Dan may have done a lot of things, but for the love of Pete, he's not to blame for everything

2009 is the year we finally found out (we knew but had no proof) that DS has his hand in every facet of this organization. Do we really need to go over the events of this past year?? What we’ve seen unfold is a direct results of him trying to play GM and HC. You and I both know (and knew when he was hired) that Zorn has no business being hired as the HC and there is only one person responsible for that hiring. He had no choice but the make Vinny the latest scapegoat. I have always maintained that he’d get it right…Here’s to hoping the hiring of Allen is the start of that.

[fleetus]

It seems to me that:

- Haynesworth was not under attack

- If the media criticizes him, it's best to say nothing

- If anyone replies, it ought to be the coaches defending their players.

Have you WATCHED the post game interviews? The pressers? They're a freakin joke. Zorn comes out smiling after a 49-12 drubbing. Last nite after the Dallas game, he's completely wrong on the stats ("we're like 4-13 now","we were 2/10 on 3rd down conversions") and he's an idiot. A GOD FORSAKEN IDIOT!!! Jerry Gray says so little, he might as well not even speak to Kelli Johnson.

I like that someone has the balls to come out and speak their minds, b/c the coaches seem completely content to be 4-12 (and we will be next week going off previous performance). No one is upset, no one shows frustration. No one but us fans. I like that Haynesworth's not afraid to speak his mind.
If he came out and had everything rosie and happy, no one would be complaining. This regime is a joke and it's about time they've been exposed to the romper room stupidity that is the 2009 Washington Redskins.

Yea I caught that..It really says a lot about where his head is at...but everything I read on the boards today are symptoms of the mismanagement of this team by it's owner...Gibbs was able to hide it with good coaching… Zorn...no way...but it's not his fault!!

Gibbs may have hid the symptoms, but how good did he really do? We backed in to the playoffs to set a record for least amount of offensive yards in a playoff win, and then got sent home by the Seahawks. It was a defensive game, Gibbs is not a defensive guy.

And the lack of consistancy is on the coaches, not Danny. Zorn got stripped of playcalling duties b/c he was horribly inept. That's not Danny's fault. Zorn can't keep his team motivated. That's not Danny's fault. I wish people would stop giving all the blame to Dan Snyder. Dan Snyder is not making the corners play 10 yards off. Dan Snyder is not making LL take bad angles and hit instead of wrap up. Dan Snyder is not calling 77% of the plays to be thrown within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage.

Dan may have done a lot of things, but for the love of Pete, he's not to blame for everything.

I get your point. But ultimately, who hired Zorn? Who hired Cerrato? Who has repeatedly undermined the coaches by talking to Portis, Haynesworth and others?

[VetSkinsFan]

I get your point. But ultimately, who hired Zorn? Who hired Cerrato? Who has repeatedly undermined the coaches by talking to Portis, Haynesworth and others?

I knew someone would take this angle. In that case, LL, Hall, stone hands Rogers, ect ect get no blame. Who signed their checks to come here? Danny!

I thought we could move on without mention of the owner having some part in everything Redskins b/c he is in fact, the owner. Thank you for stating the glaring obvious.

[VetSkinsFan]

It seems to me that:

- Haynesworth was not under attack

- If the media criticizes him, it's best to say nothing

- If anyone replies, it ought to be the coaches defending their players.

Have you WATCHED the post game interviews? The pressers? They're a freakin joke. Zorn comes out smiling after a 49-12 drubbing. Last nite after the Dallas game, he's completely wrong on the stats ("we're like 4-13 now","we were 2/10 on 3rd down conversions") and he's an idiot. A GOD FORSAKEN IDIOT!!! Jerry Gray says so little, he might as well not even speak to Kelli Johnson.

I like that someone has the balls to come out and speak their minds, b/c the coaches seem completely content to be 4-12 (and we will be next week going off previous performance). No one is upset, no one shows frustration. No one but us fans. I like that Haynesworth's not afraid to speak his mind.
If he came out and had everything rosie and happy, no one would be complaining. This regime is a joke and it's about time they've been exposed to the romper room stupidity that is the 2009 Washington Redskins.

Yea I caught that..It really says a lot about where his head is at...but everything I read on the boards today are symptoms of the mismanagement of this team by it's owner...Gibbs was able to hide it with good coaching… Zorn...no way...but it's not his fault!!

Gibbs may have hid the symptoms, but how good did he really do? We backed in to the playoffs to set a record for least amount of offensive yards in a playoff win, and then got sent home by the Seahawks. It was a defensive game, Gibbs is not a defensive guy.

Are you complaing about going to the playoffs?? The fact he got to the playoffs 2 of the 4 years and won a game is a credit to how great a coach he is. And I don't see winning 5/4 in a row as backing in.

And the lack of consistancy is on the coaches, not Danny. Zorn got stripped of playcalling duties b/c he was horribly inept. That's not Danny's fault. Zorn can't keep his team motivated. That's not Danny's fault. I wish people would stop giving all the blame to Dan Snyder. Dan Snyder is not making the corners play 10 yards off. Dan Snyder is not making LL take bad angles and hit instead of wrap up. Dan Snyder is not calling 77% of the plays to be thrown within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage

SO Gibbs doesn't get credit for what he did but it's all Zorn fault for the failures?? Got it!

Dan may have done a lot of things, but for the love of Pete, he's not to blame for everything

2009 is the year we finally found out (we knew but had no proof) that DS has his hand in every facet of this organization. Do we really need to go over the events of this past year?? What we’ve seen unfold is a direct results of him trying to play GM and HC. You and I both know (and knew when he was hired) that Zorn has no business being hired as the HC and there is only one person responsible for that hiring. He had no choice but the make Vinny the latest scapegoat. I have always maintained that he’d get it right…Here’s to hoping the hiring of Allen is the start of that.

I'm not going to have this Gibbs is God conversation again. Compare Gibbs I to Gibbs II and tell me he wasn't merely a shadow of his former self. Yes, he was better than the coaches between his stints, but I vs II...he shoulda stayed in NASCAR.

[SkinsJock]

I think most everyone realizes that players and coaches should just do their jobs and not ever communicate team issues to the press or air their grievances through the press - that being said, this team does not have any structure at all right now and things like this are going to happen

this will all cease when this franchise brings in the new - 2K10 cannot begin fast enough


no player should ever go directly to the press with issues that he might have with coaches or players but that is what happens when the franchise is not a team

[DEHog]

It seems to me that:

- Haynesworth was not under attack

- If the media criticizes him, it's best to say nothing

- If anyone replies, it ought to be the coaches defending their players.

Have you WATCHED the post game interviews? The pressers? They're a freakin joke. Zorn comes out smiling after a 49-12 drubbing. Last nite after the Dallas game, he's completely wrong on the stats ("we're like 4-13 now","we were 2/10 on 3rd down conversions") and he's an idiot. A GOD FORSAKEN IDIOT!!! Jerry Gray says so little, he might as well not even speak to Kelli Johnson.

I like that someone has the balls to come out and speak their minds, b/c the coaches seem completely content to be 4-12 (and we will be next week going off previous performance). No one is upset, no one shows frustration. No one but us fans. I like that Haynesworth's not afraid to speak his mind.
If he came out and had everything rosie and happy, no one would be complaining. This regime is a joke and it's about time they've been exposed to the romper room stupidity that is the 2009 Washington Redskins.

Yea I caught that..It really says a lot about where his head is at...but everything I read on the boards today are symptoms of the mismanagement of this team by it's owner...Gibbs was able to hide it with good coaching… Zorn...no way...but it's not his fault!!

Gibbs may have hid the symptoms, but how good did he really do? We backed in to the playoffs to set a record for least amount of offensive yards in a playoff win, and then got sent home by the Seahawks. It was a defensive game, Gibbs is not a defensive guy.

Are you complaing about going to the playoffs?? The fact he got to the playoffs 2 of the 4 years and won a game is a credit to how great a coach he is. And I don't see winning 5/4 in a row as backing in.

And the lack of consistancy is on the coaches, not Danny. Zorn got stripped of playcalling duties b/c he was horribly inept. That's not Danny's fault. Zorn can't keep his team motivated. That's not Danny's fault. I wish people would stop giving all the blame to Dan Snyder. Dan Snyder is not making the corners play 10 yards off. Dan Snyder is not making LL take bad angles and hit instead of wrap up. Dan Snyder is not calling 77% of the plays to be thrown within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage

SO Gibbs doesn't get credit for what he did but it's all Zorn fault for the failures?? Got it!

Dan may have done a lot of things, but for the love of Pete, he's not to blame for everything

2009 is the year we finally found out (we knew but had no proof) that DS has his hand in every facet of this organization. Do we really need to go over the events of this past year?? What we’ve seen unfold is a direct results of him trying to play GM and HC. You and I both know (and knew when he was hired) that Zorn has no business being hired as the HC and there is only one person responsible for that hiring. He had no choice but the make Vinny the latest scapegoat. I have always maintained that he’d get it right…Here’s to hoping the hiring of Allen is the start of that.

I'm not going to have this Gibbs is God conversation again. Compare Gibbs I to Gibbs II and tell me he wasn't merely a shadow of his former self. Yes, he was better than the coaches between his stints, but I vs II...he shoulda stayed in NASCAR.

No Gibbs is God here..Just the facts....

[DEHog]

I get your point. But ultimately, who hired Zorn? Who hired Cerrato? Who has repeatedly undermined the coaches by talking to Portis, Haynesworth and others?

I knew someone would take this angle. In that case, LL, Hall, stone hands Rogers, ect ect get no blame. Who signed their checks to come here? Danny!

I thought we could move on without mention of the owner having some part in everything Redskins b/c he is in fact, the owner. Thank you for stating the glaring obvious.

After the year that was...You have to mention the owner....amazing how well theseplayers player played under JG and GW...Vet your a military guy you understand chain of command...tell me how the Skins chain of command worked this year.

[VetSkinsFan]

I get your point. But ultimately, who hired Zorn? Who hired Cerrato? Who has repeatedly undermined the coaches by talking to Portis, Haynesworth and others?

I knew someone would take this angle. In that case, LL, Hall, stone hands Rogers, ect ect get no blame. Who signed their checks to come here? Danny!

I thought we could move on without mention of the owner having some part in everything Redskins b/c he is in fact, the owner. Thank you for stating the glaring obvious.

After the year that was...You have to mention the owner....amazing how well theseplayers player played under JG and GW...Vet your a military guy you understand chain of command...tell me how the Skins chain of command worked this year.

You can't compare apples to oranges. The miltary chain of command only works in the military. I'm still struggling to remember that fact daily even in the DoD arena.

And in the military, at least everyone has the same military basic background. Doesn't apply here with a telecom guy in charge of an NFL operation.

[DEHog]

I get your point. But ultimately, who hired Zorn? Who hired Cerrato? Who has repeatedly undermined the coaches by talking to Portis, Haynesworth and others?

I knew someone would take this angle. In that case, LL, Hall, stone hands Rogers, ect ect get no blame. Who signed their checks to come here? Danny!

I thought we could move on without mention of the owner having some part in everything Redskins b/c he is in fact, the owner. Thank you for stating the glaring obvious.

After the year that was...You have to mention the owner....amazing how well theseplayers player played under JG and GW...Vet your a military guy you understand chain of command...tell me how the Skins chain of command worked this year.

You can't compare apples to oranges. The miltary chain of command only works in the military. I'm still struggling to remember that fact daily even in the DoD arena.

And in the military, at least everyone has the same military basic background. Doesn't apply here with a telecom guy in charge of an NFL operation.

Vet you know what I mean...you can't have players going over their position coaches, co-ordinators and HC straight to the owner

[SkinsJock]

... you know what I mean ... you can't have players going over their position coaches, co-ordinators and HC straight to the owner

bingo - when it all comes down to it we can say what we like about how frustrating things have been for the players and the coaches here - fact is players should just play the game and the coaches need to do their jobs as well as they can - the NFL franchises that are successful have team leaders that help the coaches keep the players in line

we understand that this group of players has not been very together but players do understand that they are undermining everything by stepping away from the guidelines - Haynesworth would do himself a big favor by apologising - not to the coaches, but for handling the issues the way he did - he is most likely justified in his feelings but IMO he handled this the wrong way. .

[RayNAustin]

If Haynesworth was promised a certain scenario that Redskin coaches subsequently refused to acknowledge or implement ... and if Blache's response to suggestions from that player were met with "Get out of my face", then I have no issue with Albert's actions. It's not ideal of course, but certainly understandable.

And it's not like this hasn't happened before .. coaches behaving arrogantly as in the case way back with Arrington.

Good coaches work their systems to facilitate their players strengths, and are receptive to suggestions that might provide increased production ... "get out of my face" responses directed at your best players doesn't foster cohesiveness and encouragement. Can anyone even conceive in their wildest imaginations Joe Gibbs ever responding to one of his players like that? Heck no ... players respected and trusted Gibbs and would throw their bodies out in front of a freight train for Gibbs.

Blache does appear at times a bit of a curmudgeon, and rather ill tempered ... and Haynesworth is no petunia.

It seems to me that you want your players fighting for you and not against you ... and I think the responsibility for a rift in this case falls on the coach.

[DEHog]

If Haynesworth was promised a certain scenario that Redskin coaches subsequently refused to acknowledge or implement ... and if Blache's response to suggestions from that player were met with "Get out of my face", then I have no issue with Albert's actions. It's not ideal of course, but certainly understandable.

And it's not like this hasn't happened before .. coaches behaving arrogantly as in the case way back with Arrington.

Good coaches work their systems to facilitate their players strengths, and are receptive to suggestions that might provide increased production ... "get out of my face" responses directed at your best players doesn't foster cohesiveness and encouragement. Can anyone even conceive in their wildest imaginations Joe Gibbs ever responding to one of his players like that? Heck no ... players respected and trusted Gibbs and would throw their bodies out in front of a freight train for Gibbs.

Blache does appear at times a bit of a curmudgeon, and rather ill tempered ... and Haynesworth is no petunia.

It seems to me that you want your players fighting for you and not against you ... and I think the responsibility for a rift in this case falls on the coach.

Would the same be true for Landry??

[VetSkinsFan]

Whether you like it or not, the 'shut up and play' mentality is gone. It will never be here again. With the instant gratification of the internet and today's society, this is where it's going. And Haynesworth didn't do it as bad as some have in the past. And IF his story is straight and truthful, I don't blame him.

And Haynesworth has some credibility, or he wouldn't have that fat paycheck. He knows what he's good at, he came from a good defense, and I think he has valuable insight what works for HIM. If Blache responds with 'get out of my face,' then maybe it's not Haynesworth that needs the attitude adjustment.

[SkinsJock]

like I said - I agree with the sentiment that has been reported - the only fault I find is in how he thought he should make his feelings known - A lot is hearsay but IMO this coach is so full of himself that he may have treated Haynesworth with a lot less respect than he deserves - players just should not handle these things this way

[DEHog]

Whether you like it or not, the 'shut up and play' mentality is gone. It will never be here again. With the instant gratification of the internet and today's society, this is where it's going. And Haynesworth didn't do it as bad as some have in the past. And IF his story is straight and truthful, I don't blame him.

And Haynesworth has some credibility, or he wouldn't have that fat paycheck. He knows what he's good at, he came from a good defense, and I think he has valuable insight what works for HIM. If Blache responds with 'get out of my face,' then maybe it's not Haynesworth that needs the attitude adjustment.

Valid point Vet...I'd like to hear GB side of it!

[fleetus]

I get your point. But ultimately, who hired Zorn? Who hired Cerrato? Who has repeatedly undermined the coaches by talking to Portis, Haynesworth and others?

I knew someone would take this angle. In that case, LL, Hall, stone hands Rogers, ect ect get no blame. Who signed their checks to come here? Danny!

I thought we could move on without mention of the owner having some part in everything Redskins b/c he is in fact, the owner. Thank you for stating the glaring obvious.

I didn't say Snyder deserves the blame for these players performances. But under another owner, the Redskins would not accept the performances of some of these players. Patriots or Steelers (teams I believe have very good personnel systems) would have replacements waiting in the wings to replace LL, Hall and Rogers when they played like this. And/or those players would be released, traded or they would understand that they will be benched quickly and replaced by a hungry backup player. under Snyder, everyone is lax.

[fleetus]

Whether you like it or not, the 'shut up and play' mentality is gone. It will never be here again. With the instant gratification of the internet and today's society, this is where it's going. And Haynesworth didn't do it as bad as some have in the past. And IF his story is straight and truthful, I don't blame him.

And Haynesworth has some credibility, or he wouldn't have that fat paycheck. He knows what he's good at, he came from a good defense, and I think he has valuable insight what works for HIM. If Blache responds with 'get out of my face,' then maybe it's not Haynesworth that needs the attitude adjustment.

Valid point Vet...I'd like to hear GB side of it!

Sure, Haynesworth could be right. That doesn't excuse running to the media to point out the coaches faults. Blache always takes the high road in these situations. You won't hear from him on this. He's got some class and integrity.

My thinking is, if you look at Haynesworth closely, it isn't hard to see that the person he really is. That guy is very talented physically, but he isn't known for work ethic. He doesn't play complete games. He has a tendency to fall injured a couple times a game. Is he really hurt that often? or just needs an excuse to sit on the sidelines. He's had some small off the field issues too. So, when he spouts off to the media, it is only natural to wonder, Is this guy capable of taking responsibility for his own failures? Would he be a man and say, "Hey, I didn't play 100% today?" I doubt it. But if he sees a chance to point fingers at someone elses shortcomings, he's gonna take it. Not much a team player if it's always a one way street, ya know? Same applies for D. Hall.

[RayNAustin]

If Haynesworth was promised a certain scenario that Redskin coaches subsequently refused to acknowledge or implement ... and if Blache's response to suggestions from that player were met with "Get out of my face", then I have no issue with Albert's actions. It's not ideal of course, but certainly understandable.

And it's not like this hasn't happened before .. coaches behaving arrogantly as in the case way back with Arrington.

Good coaches work their systems to facilitate their players strengths, and are receptive to suggestions that might provide increased production ... "get out of my face" responses directed at your best players doesn't foster cohesiveness and encouragement. Can anyone even conceive in their wildest imaginations Joe Gibbs ever responding to one of his players like that? Heck no ... players respected and trusted Gibbs and would throw their bodies out in front of a freight train for Gibbs.

Blache does appear at times a bit of a curmudgeon, and rather ill tempered ... and Haynesworth is no petunia.

It seems to me that you want your players fighting for you and not against you ... and I think the responsibility for a rift in this case falls on the coach.

Would the same be true for Landry??

Landry is an entirely different situation. Big Al has made a significant impact ... and believes he could do much more if they simply allowed him to. Landry is back there stinking out the joint, and bobbing his head like a fool when a miracle occurs and he does make the tackle.

Landry doesn't need "get out of my face", he needs "play better or get out of town".

[RayNAustin]

I get your point. But ultimately, who hired Zorn? Who hired Cerrato? Who has repeatedly undermined the coaches by talking to Portis, Haynesworth and others?

I knew someone would take this angle. In that case, LL, Hall, stone hands Rogers, ect ect get no blame. Who signed their checks to come here? Danny!

I thought we could move on without mention of the owner having some part in everything Redskins b/c he is in fact, the owner. Thank you for stating the glaring obvious.

I didn't say Snyder deserves the blame for these players performances. But under another owner, the Redskins would not accept the performances of some of these players. Patriots or Steelers (teams I believe have very good personnel systems) would have replacements waiting in the wings to replace LL, Hall and Rogers when they played like this. And/or those players would be released, traded or they would understand that they will be benched quickly and replaced by a hungry backup player. under Snyder, everyone is lax.

You can't have it both ways ... you can't say that the Owner gets too involved in football operations, and then turn and criticize him for not replacing players performing poorly.

The performance issue is on the coaches, not the FO or the Owner, and from my vantage point, it looks like the owner is instituting sweeping change with regard to coaches and the guy responsible for personnel.

In the past, Snyder and Company have done a very poor job managing this team .. no one disputes that. And he made a huge error in hiring Zorn, and in retrospect, maybe he should have maintained the staff that Joe Gibbs assembled ... promoting Williams to HC, Blache DC, and Saunders OC.

But many felt uncomfortable with Williams as the HC as I recall, and many weren't overly impressed with Saunders offense (until Collins was running it, and then it looked pretty potent).

Nope ... can't have it both ways. Snyder made a mistake hiring Zorn and promoting Cerrato .. that's where his responsibility for this mess lays. Those he hired are responsible for the rest of it.

[DEHog]

If Haynesworth was promised a certain scenario that Redskin coaches subsequently refused to acknowledge or implement ... and if Blache's response to suggestions from that player were met with "Get out of my face", then I have no issue with Albert's actions. It's not ideal of course, but certainly understandable.

And it's not like this hasn't happened before .. coaches behaving arrogantly as in the case way back with Arrington.

Good coaches work their systems to facilitate their players strengths, and are receptive to suggestions that might provide increased production ... "get out of my face" responses directed at your best players doesn't foster cohesiveness and encouragement. Can anyone even conceive in their wildest imaginations Joe Gibbs ever responding to one of his players like that? Heck no ... players respected and trusted Gibbs and would throw their bodies out in front of a freight train for Gibbs.

Blache does appear at times a bit of a curmudgeon, and rather ill tempered ... and Haynesworth is no petunia.

It seems to me that you want your players fighting for you and not against you ... and I think the responsibility for a rift in this case falls on the coach.

Would the same be true for Landry??

Landry is an entirely different situation. Big Al has made a significant impact ... and believes he could do much more if they simply allowed him to. Landry is back there stinking out the joint, and bobbing his head like a fool when a miracle occurs and he does make the tackle.

Landry doesn't need "get out of my face", he needs "play better or get out of town".

My point was shouldn't the coaches be able taylor his skill within the scheme??

[SKINFAN]

Blache can't taylor anything...

[CanesSkins26]

If Haynesworth was promised a certain scenario that Redskin coaches subsequently refused to acknowledge or implement ... and if Blache's response to suggestions from that player were met with "Get out of my face", then I have no issue with Albert's actions. It's not ideal of course, but certainly understandable.

And it's not like this hasn't happened before .. coaches behaving arrogantly as in the case way back with Arrington.

Good coaches work their systems to facilitate their players strengths, and are receptive to suggestions that might provide increased production ... "get out of my face" responses directed at your best players doesn't foster cohesiveness and encouragement. Can anyone even conceive in their wildest imaginations Joe Gibbs ever responding to one of his players like that? Heck no ... players respected and trusted Gibbs and would throw their bodies out in front of a freight train for Gibbs.

Blache does appear at times a bit of a curmudgeon, and rather ill tempered ... and Haynesworth is no petunia.

It seems to me that you want your players fighting for you and not against you ... and I think the responsibility for a rift in this case falls on the coach.

Would the same be true for Landry??

Landry is an entirely different situation. Big Al has made a significant impact ... and believes he could do much more if they simply allowed him to. Landry is back there stinking out the joint, and bobbing his head like a fool when a miracle occurs and he does make the tackle.

Landry doesn't need "get out of my face", he needs "play better or get out of town".

My point was shouldn't the coaches be able taylor his skill within the scheme??

It's hard to scheme around a safety that can't cover or tackle.

[Manchester_Redskin]

usually when players start gobbing off to the press its because they are looking to get traded.

[welch]

usually when players start gobbing off to the press its because they are looking to get traded.

That's about right.

In this case, Haynesworth sounds like a player in the final year of his contract who wants the best possible deal when he becomes a free agent.

That's odd, because Haynesworth was a free agent last winter, and signed a contract that, we think, has a large amount of guaranteed money in it.

Maybe Haynesworth has figured his "play" in reverse: he knows that the current coaching staff will get traded, in effect...they are gone, finished after the Charger game. Maybe he figures he'll help matters along.

All of which will not exactly win admiration from his next set of defensive coaches. I suspect that all the coaches in the league are wondering a bit about Haynesworth's dedication to winning.