Official Post Game Discussion- Skins/Broncos

[amadkins]

Betts > Portis. Lorenzo Alexander is my new favorite Skin (until Fletcher rings somebody's bell again). Snyder still sucks and deserves to be boycotted.

[RedskinsFreak]

The things that irk me about this team were still present today.

But, this week, they came with a tangible effort and grit and fight that ... if they showed that EVERY week, I wouldn't take the losses as poorly.

I'll take errors of comission over errors of omission every time.

But, well done, Redskins!

BTW, on that "put Portis on IR" comment -- take it one step further.

Put him to the curb.

DISCLAIMER: My praise and good mood today does not, in any way, mask or decrease the need for wide-reaching reform in how this organization does business.

[tribeofjudah]

As far as the game goes, I was able to see parts of it. Kudos to the entire team, including the secondary, for playing for 60 minutes. The secondary was crap in the first quarter, but didn't let that stuff happen again (aside from that overthrow by Orton, which I think was in the 2nd quarter).

Campbell is still garbage...and our best option ON THE ROSTER.

2ndary got better when they bench Carloser 22.

[tribeofjudah]

Well folks, Looks like I was wrong, and I'm glad I was....I thought they would loose. If any of you caught my show on Friday, I was said they would and I have never felt better than I do now, to be proven wrong. Looks like I will finally, and it is about time, that I will have something positive to say on Monday.

Bmitch...we're all glad and singing praises right now. I hope we've turned a corner into some winning ways.

[tribeofjudah]

This is the first time this year I can say I was pleased with the performance of the team. Granted, the secondary spotted the Broncos some points, but the offense wasn't that offensive. It's nice to see Kelly, Thomas, and Davis finally make an impact in the game. Thomas fighting for those yards was pretty awesome to watch. Finally, we saw some fire in the team and some pride in the individuals playing.

Davis has been pretty good the last few games (can you say pro bowl potential in a few years???)
Thomas is showing his fire.
Kelley is still trying to get on the field...(once in a while)

[tribeofjudah]

Betts > Portis. Lorenzo Alexander is my new favorite Skin (until Fletcher rings somebody's bell again). Snyder still sucks and deserves to be boycotted.

Zoe is a balls out player. Remember during pre-season back when he was trying to earn his spot. He ran to tackle a opponent WITHOUT his helmet.

That earned my respect bigtime. I think coaches kept him on the roster after seeing that too.......

[El Mexican]

Good win.

What's up with all the tricky plays in Zorn's gameplan? Or was that Sherm's call?

[tribeofjudah]

The things that irk me about this team were still present today.

But, this week, they came with a tangible effort and grit and fight that ... if they showed that EVERY week, I wouldn't take the losses as poorly.

I'll take errors of comission over errors of omission every time.

But, well done, Redskins!

BTW, on that "put Portis on IR" comment -- take it one step further.

Put him to the curb.

DISCLAIMER: My praise and good mood today does not, in any way, mask or decrease the need for wide-reaching reform in how this organization does business.

Omission, commission.....you sound like a Preacher talking about Sins.

How about: Let's commit to omit Portis from the lineup if he doesn't practice on a daily basis.

[tribeofjudah]

RaynAustin wrote:

Bench Campbell, Rogers, and stick a foot a yard up Landry's butt, and we might be respectable from here on out.

Notice 2 of those mentioned are from Auburn. Let's stop taking draft picks from Auburn.

Heck, LL is from LSU and he suck too.... Why OH why did I buy that #30 jersey...!!??

[chiefhog44]

Our LB's are bad ass. Macintosh is playing lights out, and I am so fired up about RAK. D-line played OK today...gave up too many big rushes. O-line played outstanding against a fairly good D...pass-pro was excellent. Davis and Yoder played well. Thomas showed great effort and Randell el does so much away from the ball. Our secondary looked poor. Betts and Cartright should start the remainder of the season...push Portis to IR. Sellers played outstanding. Campbell played pretty poor. He was given a ton of time and consistantly overthrew or was off target to receivers.

Don't get caught sniffing the kitty litter. We still need a GM and an overhaul of this program.

[grampi]

Given the Crackboy's poor performance today and the Skins good one, is it possible the Skins actually have a chance to win next week?

[tribeofjudah]

Given the Crackboy's poor performance today and the Skins good one, is it possible the Skins actually have a chance to win next week?

Of course grampi.... Any given Sunday.

[fredp45]

I absolutely agree, the Oline and Betts/Rock did great today...but the one thing I noticed that really stood out was our hard hitting and hustle...we haven't seen the Skins out hit anybody for quite awhile. Alexander had 2 huge hits, one causing a fumble, the other causing LaMont Jordan to wonder what city he was in.

For those who didn't see the game -- our first series, JC looked great. He took us down the field with 5-15 yard gains, and threw a TD to Yoder. It was one of the better drives of the season. The interesting part of that drive? Our 3 "Stars" -- Moss, Portis and ey made no plays...while Moss was in the game, he didn't make one catch in the drive. In fact, he wasn't really a factor today. Of course, Portis and ey were on the sidelines.

While I think Moss adds to our team, I'd trade ey for an early pick (maybe an early 2nd rounder so we can stockpile Olinemen). We have Davis and he can learn to block a little better and do what we need there, and is younger. I really believe having 2 quality TEs is a luxary, a luxary the Skins can't afford - consdering our other issues.

I'd also get whatever I can for Portis. Betts, Rock and the new guy, Quentin whatever, did a super job today. Quentin picked up the blitz on one play and virtually launched the DB...ala Portis. He then caught a screen and nearly knocked Dawkins out. Dawkins normally gets the best of one-on-one contact -- however, not this time! Dawkin's helmet only stayed on because of his chinstrap.

Wow, my SKins were macho today!

[tribeofjudah]

I absolutely agree, the Oline and Betts/Rock did great today...but the one thing I noticed that really stood out was our hard hitting and hustle...we haven't seen the Skins out hit anybody for quite awhile. Alexander had 2 huge hits, one causing a fumble, the other causing LaMont Jordan to wonder what city he was in.

For those who didn't see the game -- our first series, JC looked great. He took us down the field with 5-15 yard gains, and threw a TD to Yoder. It was one of the better drives of the season. The interesting part of that drive? Our 3 "Stars" -- Moss, Portis and ey made no plays...while Moss was in the game, he didn't make one catch in the drive. In fact, he wasn't really a factor today. Of course, Portis and ey were on the sidelines.

While I think Moss adds to our team, I'd trade ey for an early pick (maybe an early 2nd rounder so we can stockpile Olinemen). We have Davis and he can learn to block a little better and do what we need there, and is younger. I really believe having 2 quality TEs is a luxary, a luxary the Skins can't afford - consdering our other issues.

I'd also get whatever I can for Portis. Betts, Rock and the new guy, Quentin whatever, did a super job today. Quentin picked up the blitz on one play and virtually launched the DB...ala Portis. He then caught a screen and nearly knocked Dawkins out. Dawkins normally gets the best of one-on-one contact -- however, not this time! Dawkin's helmet only stayed on because of his chinstrap.

Wow, my SKins were macho today!

Yup, Ganther rocked Dawkins on that hit. But NO WAY on trading ey. I'd love for the ster to stay a Redskin for his entire career. Wouldn't that be COOL.....?

[chiefhog44]

I absolutely agree, the Oline and Betts/Rock did great today...but the one thing I noticed that really stood out was our hard hitting and hustle...we haven't seen the Skins out hit anybody for quite awhile. Alexander had 2 huge hits, one causing a fumble, the other causing LaMont Jordan to wonder what city he was in.

For those who didn't see the game -- our first series, JC looked great. He took us down the field with 5-15 yard gains, and threw a TD to Yoder. It was one of the better drives of the season. The interesting part of that drive? Our 3 "Stars" -- Moss, Portis and ey made no plays...while Moss was in the game, he didn't make one catch in the drive. In fact, he wasn't really a factor today. Of course, Portis and ey were on the sidelines.

While I think Moss adds to our team, I'd trade ey for an early pick (maybe an early 2nd rounder so we can stockpile Olinemen). We have Davis and he can learn to block a little better and do what we need there, and is younger. I really believe having 2 quality TEs is a luxary, a luxary the Skins can't afford - consdering our other issues.

I'd also get whatever I can for Portis. Betts, Rock and the new guy, Quentin whatever, did a super job today. Quentin picked up the blitz on one play and virtually launched the DB...ala Portis. He then caught a screen and nearly knocked Dawkins out. Dawkins normally gets the best of one-on-one contact -- however, not this time! Dawkin's helmet only stayed on because of his chinstrap.

Wow, my SKins were macho today!

Yup, Ganther rocked Dawkins on that hit. But NO WAY on trading ey. I'd love for the ster to stay a Redskin for his entire career. Wouldn't that be COOL.....?

I agree, he's got a great attitude and he's definately a prototype skins player that should be retired as one

[RedskinsFreak]

For those who didn't see the game -- our first series, JC looked great. He took us down the field with 5-15 yard gains, and threw a TD to Yoder. It was one of the better drives of the season. The interesting part of that drive? Our 3 "Stars" -- Moss, Portis and ey made no plays...while Moss was in the game, he didn't make one catch in the drive. In fact, he wasn't really a factor today. Of course, Portis and ey were on the sidelines.

This was the one point I forgot to include in the other post. I'll plead guilty to having "Oh no, not ALREADY" thoughts when Denver scored in four plays.

But the way the Redskins responded and went right back down the field for the TD to Yoder showed more from this team than they've shown since September.

[Chris Luva Luva]

I didn't get to watch the game but that run by Thomas shows what he can do. I've been saying for a long time now that these young guys are talented and that we AREN'T giving them enough chances to shine.

Awesome run by him.

[ATX_Skins]

I hate doing this but the Broncos were on a 2 game slide before us. Orton got hurt and I'm not even sure if Simms completed a pass...

We are still a very bad football team. But man it feels good to get a win finally!

[so.il.SKINSFAN]

I absolutely agree, the Oline and Betts/Rock did great today...but the one thing I noticed that really stood out was our hard hitting and hustle...we haven't seen the Skins out hit anybody for quite awhile. Alexander had 2 huge hits, one causing a fumble, the other causing LaMont Jordan to wonder what city he was in.

For those who didn't see the game -- our first series, JC looked great. He took us down the field with 5-15 yard gains, and threw a TD to Yoder. It was one of the better drives of the season. The interesting part of that drive? Our 3 "Stars" -- Moss, Portis and ey made no plays...while Moss was in the game, he didn't make one catch in the drive. In fact, he wasn't really a factor today. Of course, Portis and ey were on the sidelines.

While I think Moss adds to our team, I'd trade ey for an early pick (maybe an early 2nd rounder so we can stockpile Olinemen). We have Davis and he can learn to block a little better and do what we need there, and is younger. I really believe having 2 quality TEs is a luxary, a luxary the Skins can't afford - consdering our other issues.

I'd also get whatever I can for Portis. Betts, Rock and the new guy, Quentin whatever, did a super job today. Quentin picked up the blitz on one play and virtually launched the DB...ala Portis. He then caught a screen and nearly knocked Dawkins out. Dawkins normally gets the best of one-on-one contact -- however, not this time! Dawkin's helmet only stayed on because of his chinstrap.

Wow, my SKins were macho today!

Yup, Ganther rocked Dawkins on that hit. But NO WAY on trading ey. I'd love for the ster to stay a Redskin for his entire career. Wouldn't that be COOL.....?

AMEN!! We can't get rid of ey.

I almost shed a tear today..my 9 yr old daughter said shes askin Santa for an Orakpo jersey for X-mas and her 6 yr old sister(always doing what big sister does) says she is too.

[skinz74]

I would like to toss some much needed credit to:

1. O-line played smash mouth football against a pretty stout (#3 defense?). They gave up 3 sacks, but there wasn't any real momentum to them IMHO. The run blocking was very well executed...Betts and Rock had holes all day. Game ball to the O-line.

2. The much maligned Campbell did not have a stellar day...but I saw him do some things today that have been missing most of his career...touch and pocket mobility. The play to (I think) Kelly on the sidelines was beautiful...a throw he would normally sail high and out of bounds. There were several times were he was flushed within the pocket...and they poof, the ball is floated to a RB/FB/TE for positive gain. While he did miss Moss for the TD and some other passes sailed on him...I think he is showing some improvement and hopefully a consistent running game and O-line play with bolster his confidence.

3. Ladell and Rock ran angry. Guess it shows that practice may not make perfect, but it does help you fit through the holes. I hope we continue to see this combo for the rest of the year and place Clinton on ice.

4. Danny Smith with another mind-bender. Although they could have really screwed the pooch calling that time-out...possibly tipping their hat. Kudos to Hunter and Big Mike for executing a great special teams play.

5. Orakpo is a man-child. Would love to see his hand in the dirt every down, though. I think we would have alot more sacks right now. Carter isn't doing too shabby, either. I'm smart enough to know that Big Al is working hard for his money.

6. Last but not least, Big Al. Showed guts going back on the field banged up...was nice to see that level of commitment from the big guy.

Great game...feels good to have positives that are easy to see...not ones that have to be plucked from a bucket of crap. ...

[brad7686]

I didn't get to watch the game but that run by Thomas shows what he can do. I've been saying for a long time now that these young guys are talented and that we AREN'T giving them enough chances to shine.

Awesome run by him.

Thomas is fast and physical, but he can't catch a cold. That's why he can't get on the field. Kelly is slow, but at least he has been displaying the hands he's supposed to have lately. I'd take Marko over both of them.

[Chris Luva Luva]

I didn't get to watch the game but that run by Thomas shows what he can do. I've been saying for a long time now that these young guys are talented and that we AREN'T giving them enough chances to shine.

Awesome run by him.

Thomas is fast and physical, but he can't catch a cold. That's why he can't get on the field. Kelly is slow, but at least he has been displaying the hands he's supposed to have lately. I'd take Marko over both of them.

All of that is debatable... If you give a guy 2 chances per game to catch a pass and one of those passes are errant, that sir IS NOT fair shake.

If your QB CANNOT throw a fade route and thats the ONLY pass you through to Malcom and its way behind him, that's NOT a fair shake.


These guys have made mistakes, they have had their issues but neither have they been given ample playing time.

[DEHog]

Most have already pointed out all the good…Levi, Betts Orakpo…I want to also give a big ups to the fans,,,The 12th man showed up yesterday…I haven’t heard the stadium sound like that in a while. So to those of you who came out and cheered (and those you cheering at home, you’re no less of a fan!) thanks. Different feel at the game yesterday, the Skins dispensed many VP’s yesterday. I was ask a few times how my game day experience was going…As luck would have it I got an on-field pass and it was great to see the side lines lined with military personnel Kudos to Snyder for being on the sideline and mingling with them!! My point is I know we need some change and while I don’t always agree with our FO…I do think they get it. In speaking with one of the VP’s I told them I believe much good will come from this year. I told them it shouldn’t take this to get them to threat the fans better, but much is learned during times of adversity.

As for supporting our team…I’m glad there have been no protest, yea I saw some signs and Tees. I’m talking about things like Cleveland, I know the two fans who are organizing the walkout tonight. While I respect then I don’t agree…there are many things in life worth protesting…football ain’t one of them IMO. As I told those two the team is watching and taking names…I know because I’ve been supporting our team thought this thought time and yesterday they let us know how much they appreciate it…

[USAFSkinFan]

Running game and short passing won this game... Campbell was even more inconsistent than usual but the running game kept them out of long yardage situations and it kept the pass rush at bay for the most part... that's really the only recipe for a win for this team... if we can't run the ball, all the other weaknesses show up...

Rogers is really really bad...
Hall is better but he's a worse tackler than I thought he was (at least he can catch)...
Landry continues to show lack of focus and smarts each week...
Orakpo and Carter are having fun competing with each other for sacks when they both get to rush the passer...

Hunter the punter, Hunter the holder, Hunter the runner, Hunter the passer, Hunter the jack of all trades...

Please tell me Zorn didn't really say, "we don't return well because we're trying to block punts"

[grampi]

I hate doing this but the Broncos were on a 2 game slide before us. Orton got hurt and I'm not even sure if Simms completed a pass...

We are still a very bad football team. But man it feels good to get a win finally!

It sure would be nice if this very bad team could get a win against the Crackboys though, wouldn't it?