Pat Kirwan thinks we have GOOD depth

Redskins4Life · Post by **Redskins4Life** » Sun Jun 06, 2004 8:48 pm

Here's a story on NFL.com, and analyst Pat Kirwan thinks we have a lot of depth on our team.... Heres the link...

http://nfl.com/news/story/7397758

Arrington56 · Post by **Arrington56** » Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:06 pm

Kinda makes you think that Snyder knows what he is doing after all.

gambit187 · Post by **gambit187** » Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:22 pm

LOL now that was a good laugh

Thrash is yeah a good 3rd that is all he is.

Morton has not really been that spectacular.

Kozlowski WHATEVER WHO THE HELL IS HE.

Bowen sucks he takes wrong angles constantly

Mitchell is old no more then 2 yers left in him and unproven.

Friedman is garbage.

Steve Spurrier III · Post by **Steve Spurrier III** » Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:31 pm

Now that was a good laugh.

Yes, Thrash is a good third wide reciever but has shown he is not capable of being a starter.

Morton has not really been that spectacular.

I have never heard of Kozlowski.

Bowen sucks. He constantly takes wrong angles.

Mitchell is old. He has no more than two years left in him and has never proved himself as a quality starter.

Friedman is untalented.

*****

Gambit, you owe me twenty bucks...

Arrington56 · Post by **Arrington56** » Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:37 pm

Personally I would like to see Taylor Jacobs at the #3 this year. See what he can do.

jklote · Post by **jklote** » Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:39 pm

gambit187 wrote:LOL now that was a good laugh

Thrash is yeah a good 3rd that is all he is.

Morton has not really been that spectacular.

Kozlowski WHATEVER WHO THE HELL IS HE.

Bowen sucks he takes wrong angles constantly

Mitchell is old no more then 2 yers left in him and unproven.

Friedman is garbage.

Kozlowski is a solid veteran role player. Just because you havent heard of him doesn't mean he isn't good.

Arrington56 · Post by **Arrington56** » Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:50 pm

Mitchell was a starter a few years back and has been a solid backup ever since. He played when Trotter got hurt and held his own. Bowen playes with a lot of passion and the desire to hurt people so that is good. Friedman started a few games as a Redskin and makes a decent backup.

I think Gambit is upset because the Boys wern't on the list. :cry:

RedskinsRule56 · Post by **RedskinsRule56** » Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:00 pm

HAHAH Aveion Cason as the backup to an already backup crappy running back in Julius Jones! Dallas is going down! I hope that Noble can be a differnce maker this year for us! If he can that would be huge!! We defintely could use another Run stopping DE!

gambit187 · Post by **gambit187** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:21 am

Arrington56 wrote:Mitchell was a starter a few years back and has been a solid backup ever since. He played when Trotter got hurt and held his own. Bowen playes with a lot of passion and the desire to hurt people so that is good. Friedman started a few games as a Redskin and makes a decent backup.

I think Gambit is upset because the Boys wern't on the list.

1. Please our TE depth is better then the skins.
2. Our Oline depth is better
3. Our D-line depth is better.
4. WR's our starting 3 is better the Messed up big toe Coles and the fake fun bunch.
5. Portis is unproven as of yet in the NFC East, just like our Julious. But i gotta go with Tuna on this He find Curtis Martin.
6. Our FB depth is way better then yours.

Joe G. · Post by **Joe G.** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:23 am

Your o-line is better, okay what ever you say.

Joe G. · Post by **Joe G.** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:26 am

Keyshaun sucks, he is in no league with Coles. Your recievers suck, they were good in the begining than when they were taken seriously they sucked. Portis and Jones in the same league, you guys wasted a pick on Jones, that is not even worth arguing. Portis was also academically eligible in college. Couldn't even hit a 2.0 how pethetic.

Joe G. · Post by **Joe G.** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:27 am

FB too bad Gibbs doesn't use a fullback, if you knew what you were talking about.

daddywatson · Post by **daddywatson** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:27 pm

Gambit187 wrote:
1. Please our TE depth is better then the skins.
2. Our Oline depth is better
3. Our D-line depth is better.
4. WR's our starting 3 is better the Messed up big toe Coles and the fake fun bunch.
5. Portis is unproven as of yet in the NFC East, just like our Julious. But i gotta go with Tuna on this He find Curtis Martin.
6. Our FB depth is way better then yours.

Gambit, you better hope you have good depth on your lines. Because I personally believe ours is going to surprise alot of people this year. Mix that in with the different packages Williams is implementing.... Bad news for cowpukes!!!!!

As far as Portis goes, that's reaching for straws for examples. Even you know(I think)that #26 is going to run over, through and around teams this year.

Your TE's...... PLEASE!!!!!

It's probably a good thing you didn't mention QB's. But maybe "The Tuna" should start looking seriously at that. I have a feeling that after that first Monday night game, your cowgirls are going to need a whole string of them!!

Receivers... That doesn't even deserve a reply.

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:52 pm

Isn't there a Cowboys chat room? I sincerely doubt that Skins fans are trying to pick fights there if there is one...

Pat Kirwan thinks the tooth fairy and Terry Bradshaw are producing XTC and worker dwarfs in his basement too - but he could be right about the Skins depth.

The Redskins are back - and Cowboy fans wouldn't be posting here unless they were affraid or ignorant. Which one are you?

gambit187 · Post by **gambit187** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:05 pm

Hell yeah Joe G our online is better then the skins.

First of all this is their second year in the system, the skins first year. We have lots of guys that can start and play all along the line all 3 positions. Larry Allen and Flozell Adams ring a bell. Beside Samuels, Jansen and Thomas, the rest of you line sucks. Last year Tuna used Tucker and Vollers at Tackle and Guard, Dinapoli at center cause Al Johnson was out. With the drafting of Rogers and Peterman from USC and LSU to pro types systems in college they will challenge for starting spots and be good back ups.

You guys are stuck with Dockery and Freindman....LOL

Our TE's beat yours hands down.

We have Dan Cambell, Jason Witten who alot of people say is in the top 10. Sean Ryan a good blocking TE and James Whalen. All our TE's bring a load in the blocking game and have good hands.

You guys have Chris Cool

ey ok but about on par with Sean Ryan both rookies. Walter Rasby he is washed up. Robert Royal, Leaonard Stephans, and Kevin Ware none of them has done a thing.

At this point with his BIG TOE STILL MESSED UP AND THE SKINS TRYING TO COVER IT UP. I think Keyshawn is more reilabe then Coles at this point in the game.

Joe G I challenge to prove how and why we wasted a pick on J. Jones. You are just going on what you read. Pull the stats boy they dont lie. Then look at how many times he started and the quality of his surround cast.

Its funny how you guys keep barking on QB this and QB that, LOL......Henson is the Future get prepared, QC is now and you guys already seen what he did in his FIRST YEAR. Under Coach Parcells. He beat you guys twice. Keep living on what your read instead of RESULTS.

Steve Spurrier III · Post by **Steve Spurrier III** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:29 pm

All right Gambit.

As for this "Keyshawn is more reliable than Coles at this point in the game": Keyshawn played in 11 games before he was deactivated. In those games, he had 600 yards and three touchdowns. In Coles' LAST 11 games on 2003, presumebly when his toe was at its worst, he had 691 yards and five touchdowns. We can only assume that his toe has improved. Maybe the Redskins are running a great conspiracy theory, but even if they are, the toe should still be better, if not healed. Coles is 26 and should be starting to enter his prime right about now. Keyshawn is 31, well into his prime. Keyshawn played for a system and coach that he didn't really like. Coles played for a system that belonged in the SEC.

So, not only was an injured Coles more productive last year than a healthy Keyshawn, but there is no reason to expect Keyshawn to improve more than Coles will.

Now, as for Qunicy Carter beating us, I am going to say this very clearly so you understand. In the two games in which the Cowboys beat the Redskins, Quincy Carter had ratings of 54.6 and 69.4. Quincy Carter is not why we lost those two games. Get that through your skull.

Finally, you keep on telling us to not believe what you read and to just look at the results. Then you say Jason Whitten is good because people say he is in the top 10 at his position. I look at the stats and see that he was 20th in the league among tight ends in reception yards, 18th in catches and tied for 35th in touchdowns. So now I say to you, keep living on what you read instead of RESULTS.

Joe G. · Post by **Joe G.** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:32 pm

More int. than td great job. Jones sucks I from Pa. and people are huge ND fans. If he was so good how come when he left ND contended for a national title. Answer that.

Steve Spurrier III · Post by **Steve Spurrier III** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:33 pm

I think you are thinking of Jarious Jackson. Julius Jones is a running back...

gambit187 · Post by **gambit187** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:35 pm

Yeah Jason Witten ranked 20th and he didnt even start and he was a rookie.

The point is with QC , U GUYS LOST , YOU LOST YOU LOST. NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES OR HOW MANY WAYS YOU SAY QC WAS OUR QB WHEN WE BEAT YOU GUYS.

gambit187 · Post by **gambit187** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:37 pm

Joe G. wrote:More int. than td great job. Jones sucks I from Pa. and people are huge ND fans. If he was so good how come when he left ND contended for a national title. Answer that.

WOW Joe G, I love those facts concerning Jones. Keep them coming....LOL

Steve Spurrier III · Post by **Steve Spurrier III** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:41 pm

So what? He played terrible in those games. You can't justify Qunicy being good by saying his team won games in which he performed poorly.

Your point is that last year the Cowboys were so much better than the Redskins that it didn't matter if Quincy played well. Fine. We don't care, that was last year.

We are talking about this year. This year, I promise you the Cowboys won't beat the Redskins with those quarterback ratings.

This is essentially what is happening.

Redskin Fan: Quincy Carter sucks.
Cowboy Fan: No he doesn't. He beat the Redskins twice.
Redskin Fan: He sucked in those games.
Cowboy Fan: So what? We still won.

The Cowboy fan is arguing who had a better team in 2003, while the Redskin fan is arguing the worth of Quincy Carter.

Do you really not understand this? Just think about it...

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:53 pm

gambit187 wrote:The point is with QC , U GUYS LOST , YOU LOST YOU LOST. NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES OR HOW MANY WAYS YOU SAY QC WAS OUR QB WHEN WE BEAT YOU GUYS.

Yeah... and Heath Shuler beat the Cowboys... so what's your point

gambit187 · Post by **gambit187** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:21 pm

BringThePain! wrote:
gambit187 wrote:The point is with QC , U GUYS LOST , YOU LOST YOU LOST. NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES OR HOW MANY WAYS YOU SAY QC WAS OUR QB WHEN WE BEAT YOU GUYS.

Yeah... and Heath Shuler beat the Cowboys... so what's your point

Yeah did Heath Shuler ever get you guys to the playoffs...... :roll:

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:28 pm

gambit187 wrote:
BringThePain! wrote:
gambit187 wrote:The point is with QC , U GUYS LOST , YOU LOST YOU LOST. NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES OR HOW MANY WAYS YOU SAY QC WAS OUR QB WHEN WE BEAT YOU GUYS.

Yeah... and Heath Shuler beat the Cowboys... so what's your point

Yeah did Heath Shuler ever get you guys to the playoffs......

No.... but that wasn't your point, you said:

gambit187 wrote:The point is with QC , U GUYS LOST , YOU LOST YOU LOST. NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES OR HOW MANY WAYS YOU SAY QC WAS OUR QB WHEN WE BEAT YOU GUYS.

So I said Heath Shuler beat the Cowboys... so again... I ask... what's your point???

surferskin · Post by **surferskin** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:29 pm

c'mon gambit, you keep going round and round...noone is saying that the redskins were better than the cowboys last year...they're saying Quincy Carter is a below average starting QB...then you'll say that he led the cowboys to the playoffs BUT that's not the case...the cowboys didn't win because of QC they won inspite of him.