Gibbs Returning??

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:18 pm

I like the idea of Dungy as team president, maybe bringing in Bill Pollian's son as the GM.

Dungy wouldn't have to work HC or GM hours and would still have plenty of time for his family and charities.

Besides having an Ex-coach of the Colts running the Skins would just drive a lot of those Baltimorons crazy!

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:23 pm

skinsfan#33 wrote:Dungy wouldn't have to work HC or GM hours and would still have plenty of time for his family and charities.

Have you read his book? One of the most impressive things about Dungy is that he was dedicated to excellence in football while still living a balanced life. Instead of pulling 90-hour work weeks, he did his best but still made time for family and his ministries.

Besides having an Ex-coach of the Colts running the Skins would just drive a lot of those Baltimorons crazy!

Always a plus.

(No offense, CLL)

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:24 pm

I'm against it. It's time to move on. Gotdangit, just move on! This franchise is going to implode once Gibbs passes away.

Gibbs doesn't represent true change IMHO, he'd be a bandaid. He loves Danny and IMHO would be an enabler and pat him on his back. Thats NOT WHAT WE NEED. We need someone to slap Dan, tell him how stupid he is and send him off to the congo.

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:27 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I'm against it. It's time to move on. Gotdangit, just move on! This franchise is going to implode once Gibbs passes away.

Gibbs doesn't represent true change IMHO, he'd be a bandaid. He loves Danny and IMHO would be an enabler and pat him on his back. Thats NOT WHAT WE NEED. We need someone to slap Dan, tell him how stupid he is and send him off to the congo.

Think of Gibbs III as what Gibbs II should have been (and probably would have been in a sane setting): righting the ship, and preparing it for long-term success. If Gibbs came back again under better circumstances, I could see him coaching 2-3 years and then handing off the franchise to a younger, up and coming coach.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:31 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:I'm against it. It's time to move on. Gotdangit, just move on! This franchise is going to implode once Gibbs passes away.

Gibbs doesn't represent true change IMHO, he'd be a bandaid. He loves Danny and IMHO would be an enabler and pat him on his back. Thats NOT WHAT WE NEED. We need someone to slap Dan, tell him how stupid he is and send him off to the congo.

Think of Gibbs III as what Gibbs II should have been (and probably would have been in a sane setting): righting the ship, and preparing it for long-term success. If Gibbs came back again under better circumstances, I could see him coaching 2-3 years and then handing off the franchise to a younger, up and coming coach.

It sounds good but I don't see it happening. I dont see Vinny leaving if this happens. It's going to be the same BS... Right now the BS is pouring, under Gibbs it'll trickle till he leaves again. GIBBS ISN'T STABILITY. He's a patch.

We need to start fresh, start a new chapter from the top down.

Maybe they'll prove me wrong, they have yet to do it.

MEZZSKIN · Post by **MEZZSKIN** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:37 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:I'm against it. It's time to move on. Gotdangit, just move on! This franchise is going to implode once Gibbs passes away.

Gibbs doesn't represent true change IMHO, he'd be a bandaid. He loves Danny and IMHO would be an enabler and pat him on his back. Thats NOT WHAT WE NEED. We need someone to slap Dan, tell him how stupid he is and send him off to the congo.

Think of Gibbs III as what Gibbs II should have been (and probably would have been in a sane setting): righting the ship, and preparing it for long-term success. If Gibbs came back again under better circumstances, I could see him coaching 2-3 years and then handing off the franchise to a younger, up and coming coach.

It sounds good but I don't see it happening. I dont see Vinny leaving if this happens. It's going to be the same BS... Right now the BS is pouring, under Gibbs it'll trickle till he leaves again. GIBBS ISN'T STABILITY. He's a patch.

We need to start fresh, start a new chapter from the top down.

Maybe they'll prove me wrong, they have yet to do it.

Chris sadly it will never happen....Snyder only keeps people around he can trust ...Competentcy is not a requirement..As long as their are no leaks out Redskin park Snyder is happy.
REASON #1--why Cerrato is still around....INCOMPETNT but trustworty to his Master Dwarf
Gibbs is another he can trust and its the onlyc hance the Franchise will ever have to regain glory
Gibbs is trustworthy and competent
any other minion will be another Cerrato

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:39 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:I'm against it. It's time to move on. Gotdangit, just move on! This franchise is going to implode once Gibbs passes away.

Gibbs doesn't represent true change IMHO, he'd be a bandaid. He loves Danny and IMHO would be an enabler and pat him on his back. Thats NOT WHAT WE NEED. We need someone to slap Dan, tell him how stupid he is and send him off to the congo.

Think of Gibbs III as what Gibbs II should have been (and probably would have been in a sane setting): righting the ship, and preparing it for long-term success. If Gibbs came back again under better circumstances, I could see him coaching 2-3 years and then handing off the franchise to a younger, up and coming coach.

It sounds good but I don't see it happening. I dont see Vinny leaving if this happens. It's going to be the same BS... Right now the BS is pouring, under Gibbs it'll trickle till he leaves again. GIBBS ISN'T STABILITY. He's a patch.

We need to start fresh, start a new chapter from the top down.

Maybe they'll prove me wrong, they have yet to do it.

I don't want Gibbs either...IMO there are ulterior motives for DS to bring Gibbs in!!

MEZZSKIN · Post by **MEZZSKIN** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:44 pm

DEHog wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:I'm against it. It's time to move on. Gotdangit, just move on! This franchise is going to implode once Gibbs passes away.

Gibbs doesn't represent true change IMHO, he'd be a bandaid. He loves Danny and IMHO would be an enabler and pat him on his back. Thats NOT WHAT WE NEED. We need someone to slap Dan, tell him how stupid he is and send him off to the congo.

Think of Gibbs III as what Gibbs II should have been (and probably would have been in a sane setting): righting the ship, and preparing it for long-term success. If Gibbs came back again under better circumstances, I could see him coaching 2-3 years and then handing off the franchise to a younger, up and coming coach.

It sounds good but I don't see it happening. I dont see Vinny leaving if this happens. It's going to be the same BS... Right now the BS is pouring, under Gibbs it'll trickle till he leaves again. GIBBS ISN'T STABILITY. He's a patch.

We need to start fresh, start a new chapter from the top down.

Maybe they'll prove me wrong, they have yet to do it.

I don't want Gibbs either...IMO there are ulterior motives for DS to bring Gibbs in!!

Im for Gibbs as the hiring/ interview man for GM AND COACH..as long as Snyder stays out of it and as long as BOTH positions remain seperate held by two diffrent individuals

It will never happen tho....I'm a realist
Im asking for way to much out this Owner

SnyderSucks · Post by **SnyderSucks** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:58 pm

PulpExposure wrote:He's also the only one who Snyder lets call him "Dan," and not Mr. Snyder.

What a d-bag.

That's Mr. d-bag to you. :lol:

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:01 pm

I'll have a name for him if I ever see him in person.

I dont trust Gibbs to keep Dan out of the mix. Gibbs GM ability isn't all that solid and the lack of line development happened under his watch too. He IS NOT THE ANSWER.

Gibbs coming back is just to get the old fans back on board. It's to make yall think about the 80's, IT'S ALMOST 2010!!!

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:01 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:A man can dream, Trey. Leave me with my fantasy in the midst of this disaster.

Why does this post reminds me about Victor Hugo's Les Miserables???

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:01 pm

Redskin in Canada wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:A man can dream, Trey. Leave me with my fantasy in the midst of this disaster.

Why does this post reminds me about Victor Hugo's Les Miserables???

Because... "Great blunders are often made, like large ropes, of a multitude of fibers. "

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:58 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I dont trust Gibbs to keep Dan out of the mix. Gibbs GM ability isn't all that solid and the lack of line development happened under his watch too. He IS NOT THE ANSWER.

Gibbs coming back is just to get the old fans back on board. It's to make y'all think about the 80's, IT'S ALMOST 2010!!!

I love Gibbs but I don't think he's the solution either - I also do not think that either he or his family will want to be able to give the time that it will take to get things back on track

I do think that Snyder will come up with something that the fans will buy into though - this guy has been taking us all (well, most here) for a ride for so long now and most fans just want to be able to think that anything is possible and they just want to believe that we can be competitive again, and soon :shock:

- The least intelligent posts are by those that quote all the really good things that have happened to other teams, with the "if it happened there, it can happen here" thought process - WAKE UP PEOPLE - those franchises that were turned around had NFL people in charge - it ain't happening here with this guy running things

it is going to be interesting though and we have many months ahead to watch things develop and grow :lol:

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:02 pm

Joe Gibbs isn't a great personnel man, still, under his watch we added McIntosh, Montgomery, Golston, Doughty, Rogers, Taylor and Cool

ey. That's not too bad considering the picks he had to work with.

Still, that's not the idea. The idea is that he'd be the head of football operations. His job would be to hire a coach, hire a GM and oversee the personnel department, not make everyday decisions there. People on the football operations side would report to Gibbs. This is probably what we should have done all along back in 2004.

welch · Post by **welch** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:59 pm

We are dreaming, but of course:

- Snyder has only -- ever -- deferred to one man. Joe Gibbs

- Gibbs III would be an improvement over the current mess, but Snyder remains the owner.

- Snyder likes being owner of the Redskins, and there is nothing that can remove him. A dictators in a foreign country might get removed by a military coup, but there are no military coups in the NFL.

- The Redskins have changed owners only because a previous owner died, more or less. GP Marshall had a stroke after leaving Edward Benett Williams power of attorney. Williams ran the team, while reducing the Marshal family;s ownership share to almost zero.

- Williams ran the Redskins for Jack Kent Coooke until Cooke got divorced from his wife and, thereby, from Los Angeles.

- Cooke died, leaving a will that tossed the Redskins into the air.

- Snyder will be owner for a long time.

- Gibbs character can keep Snyder and Cerrato out of big decisions, but Gibbs is about 67 or 68. He cannot coach or run the team for more than a few years. (And why would he want to?)

- At the happiest conclusion, in which Joe Gibbs returns as coach/GM/ and boss of the Redskins, after Gibbs has worked his heart out building a team again, what happens?

- We know: Snyder and Cerrato pplay their games again.

It's grim(m). I lived through Marshall and Mike Nixon, but I don't expect to outlive Dan Snyder. I'm still a Redskin fan, still remember Scooter Scudero and the rest: the good, the terrible, and the sublimely great. Hail to the Redskins!

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:37 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4593444

Joe Gibbs wants nothing to do with this mess.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:36 pm

Joe wrote:"When I was there last go-round, we had somebody that was a passionate owner, cared about things and supported me in every way," he said."

Goodness, get off of it Joe. LOL Give it a break. I'm so glad he's not coming back, it's nauseating. :lol:

gibbsfan · Post by **gibbsfan** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:56 pm

SkinsJock wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:I dont trust Gibbs to keep Dan out of the mix. Gibbs GM ability isn't all that solid and the lack of line development happened under his watch too. He IS NOT THE ANSWER.

Gibbs coming back is just to get the old fans back on board. It's to make y'all think about the 80's, IT'S ALMOST 2010!!!

I love Gibbs but I don't think he's the solution either - I also do not think that either he or his family will want to be able to give the time that it will take to get things back on track

I do think that Snyder will come up with something that the fans will buy into though - this guy has been taking us all (well, most here) for a ride for so long now and most fans just want to be able to think that anything is possible and they just want to believe that we can be competitive again, and soon - The least intelligent posts are by those that quote all the really good things that have happened to other teams, with the "if it happened there, it can happen here" thought process - WAKE UP PEOPLE - those franchises that were turned around had NFL people in charge - it ain't happening here with this guy running things

it is going to be interesting though and we have many months ahead to watch things develop and grow

i think i can say BINGO ,
agree 110%

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:48 pm

Skinsfan55 wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4593444

Joe Gibbs wants nothing to do with this mess.

SF55,
Look I don't think he is coming back, but he didn't say he didn't want any part of this mess. He said:

"That's what it is. Talk," the owner of three NASCAR Sprint Cup Series teams said. "Right here's where I'm GMing."

That isn't exactly no! He said he is GMing with his NASCAR team. However, the rumor weren't about him being a the GM, they were about him helping pick the next GM and helping that guy pick the next coach. He could do all of that between the end of the NASCAR season and the begining of next.

To add a little more to the fire he also said this:

"It's easy to get 'em off and I think it takes a while to get them straightened out," Gibbs said of NFL teams' fortunes. "Hopefully we get it going there [in Washington]."

Now that could be a fan type "we", but it alos could be a real we.