Revamped pass rush in the works

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Revamped pass rush in the works

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It was lost in the euphoria over Joe Gibbs' return to the Washington Redskins, the trades to acquire Mark Brunell and Clinton Portis, the free-agent shopping spree that bagged, among others, Shawn Springs and Marcus Washington and the drafting of potential superstar Sean Taylor.

Who the heck is going to rush the quarterback? More specifically, when are the Redskins going to add a pass-rushing defensive end?

Currently, the Redskins remain in stand-pat mode. And that's fine with the incumbents, Regan Upshaw and Renaldo Wynn.

The duo was much maligned last year, and rightly so, considering they combined for a whopping three sacks and the team finished 24th in the NFL with only 27 sacks.

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"I definitely feel we can get it done here with the guys we have," Wynn said after minicamp practice Friday at Redskins Park. "They've brought in guys to help the defensive scheme, but (on the line) we have players, depth and veteran leadership."

All parties are taking the fresh approach.

They say the scheme of assistant head coach-defense Gregg Williams is more linemen-friendly.

"He knows what he's doing," Upshaw said. "We're just pawns in his game, just small parts in his machine."

They say the coaches understand the strengths of the current personnel.

"What (Williams) wants to set up is 1-on-1s for the defensive linemen," Wynn said.

"Even when the linebackers are blitzing, we can't let up. We have to beat our man 1-on-1 and get pressure."

They say last year is last year, 5-11 is just a memory.

"The good thing is, with me being new and the guys being new, everybody has a clean slate," said defensive coordinator Greg Blache, who also coaches the defensive line. "What a guy did last year - the good and the bad - is left in last year."

That's good news for both Upshaw and Wynn.

Upshaw, 28, will be entering his ninth season and his second with the Redskins.

He has recorded six or more sacks four times in his career, but last year was a lost season - one sack.

"You look at his numbers and you can see that Regan has had some success as a pass rusher," Blache said. "I hope he'll be a better pass rusher this year than he was last year and just a more confident pass rusher."

Wynn, 29, spent the first five years of his career with Jacksonville. In two seasons with the Redskins he has 4.5 sacks, including two in 2003.

Asked what went wrong during the 5-11 season, Upshaw said, "You don't want to talk bad about anybody, but we didn't know what we were doing half the time. I don't know if we had leadership. Now we have a real leader in Gregg Williams."

Wynn added that the Redskins had a paralysis-by-analysis situation.

"Sometimes you can worry about the opponent too much," he said. "When that happens, you lose sight of what you're trying to do. With Coach Williams, we could care less what they're doing as long as we have our stuff together."

In order for the Redskins to translate "stuff together" into winning, Wynn and Upshaw know they need to play a big role.

"My impression is that in this defense, anybody can be successful, including myself," Upshaw said. "With all the blitzing by linebackers, safeties and corners, it's going to be like Star Wars out there."


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Last year the Red Sox embraced a "closer by committee" approach to the bullpen in which they would use the most effective reliever for the most appropriate situation, not just the 9th inning...

On paper, it's a great idea, but they did not have the correct personel to make that idea work...

I don't think that just because Williams has a new scheme he's going to turn average linemen into superstars.
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Skinsfan55 wrote:Last year the Red Sox embraced a "closer by committee" approach to the bullpen in which they would use the most effective reliever for the most appropriate situation, not just the 9th inning...

On paper, it's a great idea, but they did not have the correct personel to make that idea work...

I don't think that just because Williams has a new scheme he's going to turn average linemen into superstars.


You can't compare Baseball & Football and you can't compare Joe Gibbs & Gregg Williams to your coaches in Boston! Whatever your talking about (with Boston) obviously isn't working anyway because they're not even in 1st place (3.5 back to be exact). So whatever approach the Red Sox took, I hope we do the exact opposite!

If we had this years coaching staff with last years team, the result would have been better. So I disagree, I think Williams will make our mediocre DL alot better then they really are!
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It's still June, but that's not the point...

A coach can only max a players potential, Williams isn't going to make Wynn and Upshaw into superstars, it's just not possible.
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I don't think that just because Williams has a new scheme he's going to turn average linemen into superstars.


I think a different scheme can take average lineman and make them better. Do not expect us to do any worse than last year. There will be improvement. If we can get the secondary in sync as well, then it will make everything that much easier. If the d-line looks horrible after a couple of regular season games, then I will agree with you. Until then, you can't count them out. I think everyone expects more.
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Skinsfan55 wrote:It's still June, but that's not the point...

A coach can only max a players potential, Williams isn't going to make Wynn and Upshaw into superstars, it's just not possible.


Upshaw had 6+ sack seasons before his flop last year. We brought Wynn into the defense primarily as a run-stopper, but he was supposed to be a big name at the time who would also help us out with our pass-rushing skills. I think Williams will make the most of these guys, and we're going to see a much improved line this year. (No one is asking for superstars).

Also, that article said that Upshaw, who is 28 years old and entering his 9th season. . . :hmm: Does that mean that he was 19 when entering his first season?

If so, Clarret might be interested in talking with him. . .
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Skinsfan55 wrote:I don't think that just because Williams has a new scheme he's going to turn average linemen into superstars.


The scheme isn't new to WIlliams. Its new to the Redskins. And Given the success that he had with Buffalo last year, who had a comprable D-line in terms of talent, I expect him to have results here. Williams doesn't need to turn our Linemen into superstars he has to get them to be servicable in his scheme. You heard it straght form the players, last year they didn't know what they were doing half of the time.

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ANT7088 wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:Last year the Red Sox embraced a "closer by committee" approach to the bullpen in which they would use the most effective reliever for the most appropriate situation, not just the 9th inning...

On paper, it's a great idea, but they did not have the correct personel to make that idea work...

I don't think that just because Williams has a new scheme he's going to turn average linemen into superstars.


You can't compare Baseball & Football and you can't compare Joe Gibbs & Gregg Williams to your coaches in Boston! Whatever your talking about (with Boston) obviously isn't working anyway because they're not even in 1st place (3.5 back to be exact). So whatever approach the Red Sox took, I hope we do the exact opposite!

If we had this years coaching staff with last years team, the result would have been better. So I disagree, I think Williams will make our mediocre DL alot better then they really are!


Actually, this year the Sox aquired former A's closer Keith Foulke, so their closer-by-committee approach has been abandoned.
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No, it hasn't. I won't expain it here because this is a football thread, but I would be happy to do it in the Lounge.

However, while Skinsfan55 is right in saying a scheme alone will not make bad players good ones, there is a big difference between a bad scheme and a good one, and the good ones make its players more effective...
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Steve Spurrier III wrote:No, it hasn't. I won't expain it here because this is a football thread, but I would be happy to do it in the Lounge.

However, while Skinsfan55 is right in saying a scheme alone will not make bad players good ones, there is a big difference between a bad scheme and a good one, and the good ones make its players more effective...


I agree with you and Skinsfan55, but only in theory. The problem is that everyone assumes that the players on our defensive line are bad players, just because of the performance over the last 2 years. I'm going to maintain that Wynn, Upshaw, Daniels, and Noble are actually good players.

If this is true, then a good scheme will allow them to prove their worth.

A good scheme can't make bad players good, but a bad scheme can make good players look bad. I believe that our players aren't bad to begin with, but have been in a bad scheme the past couple of years.
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