Official Post Game Discussion- Skins/Chiefs

Manchester_Redskin · Post by **Manchester_Redskin** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:27 pm

Seems like they are trying to force zorn to resign so they dont have to pay him any compensation.

Last 8 games of last year were the pointer, if the OL were to sustain any injuries then offense is stuffed. It took 8 games to reach that stage last year, this season only 5.

Bring on the draft

Cappster · Post by **Cappster** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:31 pm

I am soooooooooooooo glad I did not waste my money to go and see this game. I could have purchased discounted tickets LL on the 40yd line and I am glad I passed. This game also makes my decision for next week as someone else I know asked me if I wanted their tickets and I now I can tell them no. This team is a joke. Today is the first time in a loooooooooooong time I did not watch them on tv as I didn't want to go through the misery. 0 TD's against the worst ranked defense in the league LOL! and to finsisht the game with a safety?!? LOLOLOLOL

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:38 pm

With all the issues we have ... fact is, as a couple of guys have already stated, the offense could not score 1 TD against a terrible defense - that is really telling :cry:

Champsturf · Post by **Champsturf** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:39 am

fredp45 wrote:Jason Campbell is one of our many faults...

It seemed to me that every series, either on defense or offense, we made one mistake. In some instances, critical mistakes...This team does NOT play with an edge or with passion or fear. For example -- Tryon holds the guy on a 3rd down play in the 4th quarter and Gray talks to him and pats him on the back. Way to go Gray...give him an explaination but end it with "it's okay" pat on the back -- gimme a break.

We need coaches that make our players fear making a mistake...they come out ready to play, with passion and heart. This team is not afraid of anything...the head coach is too laid back, the defensive back coach pats them on the back after a bad play. Then, there's our special teams coach -- that guy has to have photos on someone, our STs are horrible -- week in, week out.

Back to Jason -- the guy is NOT accurate. He overthrew Moss who was wide open, he threw the ball 4 feet over ARE's head. With this kind of quick throw offense, accuracy is key. He is not accurate and not decisive at all. I'd cut Collins and sign Garcia. Garcia starts and Campbell is 2nd string.
An as others have said, our OL is horrible, maybe the worst in the league. I'm not convinced any of our starters today are starting caliber players...2nd stringers, yes.

Who is that punter? Don't get me started on their CBs and Portis!

I LOVE this part and it would already be done if I was in charge. Actually, I mentioned Garcia weeks ago, right when he signed with Philly.

Lynard*SKINSard · Post by **Lynard*SKINSard** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:13 am

You can't jump ship as a Skins fan. Your gonna watch every single painful snap this whole season just like I am and your gonna hurt just like the rest of us. Don't buy anymore gear, don't buy anymore tickets, don't give our idiot owner anymore money until he removes his head from his nether regions and realizes that he knows nothing about football. But watch every single snap on TV and weep cause that's what real Skins fans do. And in a few years when we're back on top I'm gonna slap all my idiot dallas cowboys and NY giants friends right in they're stupid pie holes and say, " I earned that, now shove it" GO SKINS.

Doug Williams owns John Elway

Manchester_Redskin · Post by **Manchester_Redskin** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:28 am

Well with the current state of the team, there is only one candidate for GM .... Matt Millen!!!

Then we can truly claim to be the laughing stock of the NFL.

next weeks game is on Monday? that means I get to see it live on TV. Excellent!

Snout · Post by **Snout** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:20 am

CanesSkins26 wrote: Luckily, there is a good amount of qb talent likely coming out this year so we should be able to address at least one of our needs in the first round.

I will really despair if we draft a QB in the first round. In my opinion it is not worth the risk. I would rather trade down and get some depth. We have too many needs right now to risk a first round pick on a QB. It would be like going to the casino when you cannot afford to put bread on the table.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:20 am

.. there is a good amount of qb talent likely coming out this year so we should be able to address at least one of our needs in the first round.

I will really despair if we draft a QB in the first round. In my opinion it is not worth the risk. I would rather trade down and get some depth. We have too many needs right now to risk a first round pick on a QB. It would be like going to the casino when you cannot afford to put bread on the table.

there is no guarantee with these bozos - we may end up without a pick in the first round next year :lol:

bmitch30 · Post by **bmitch30** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:56 am

That had to be one of the worst things I have had to endure. Anyone who saw me on Comcast after the game knew what I thought about that FARCE of a game. NO I wouldn't even call it a game.
I couldn't say EVERYTHING I thought about it on TV though. I will be saying EXACTLY what I thought at 1:00....

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:58 am

Good thing its "Uncensored." :lol:

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:58 am

Snout wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote: Luckily, there is a good amount of qb talent likely coming out this year so we should be able to address at least one of our needs in the first round.

I will really despair if we draft a QB in the first round. In my opinion it is not worth the risk. I would rather trade down and get some depth. We have too many needs right now to risk a first round pick on a QB. It would be like going to the casino when you cannot afford to put bread on the table.

How do you propose that we get a qb? Free agency has nothing and it is blatantly obvious that JC wont be around next year.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:01 am

Ask Joey Harrington, David Carr and Pat Ramsey the importance of pass protection. If you seriously think that the QB is our biggest need, you know nothing about football.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:05 am

frankcal20 wrote:Ask Joey Harrington, David Carr and Pat Ramsey the importance of pass protection. If you seriously think that the QB is our biggest need, you know nothing about football.

Where did I say it's our biggest need? Oh, that's right. I didn't. Thanks for for putting words in my mouth though. What I said in my previous post is that given the oline talent available in the draft this year, it is going to be hard to address oline. It's very much a defense-heavy draft that is thin on oline talent. We obviously need a new qb for next year in addition to oline talent. It's not one or the other, it's a both spots that need to be addressed.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:08 am

We can't really say what the O line draft talent is going to look like until the Jr. players declare for the draft. Until then, we can't really say what the strong area's are or not. But we only have one pick in the first round so with that pick, you've got to pick the top lineman or you try to trade down and get additional picks. I wouldn't use a single pick on a QB at all. There will be enough floating around to bring in.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:10 am

We can't really say what the O line draft talent is going to look like until the Jr. players declare for the draft.

Most projects take into account juniors. It's simply a down year for the oline.

There will be enough floating around to bring in.

Really? Like who?

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:11 am

The season's not over so I don't know.

We are not going to have answer's now. Sorry.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:13 am

frankcal20 wrote:The season's not over so I don't know.

We are not going to have answer's now. Sorry.

Hahaha. Yea, I'm sure we'll be able to grab one of those talented qb's that ends up just floating around after the season. :roll:

RedskinjXd · Post by **RedskinjXd** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:21 am

CanesSkins26 wrote:
Snout wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote: Luckily, there is a good amount of qb talent likely coming out this year so we should be able to address at least one of our needs in the first round.

I will really despair if we draft a QB in the first round. In my opinion it is not worth the risk. I would rather trade down and get some depth. We have too many needs right now to risk a first round pick on a QB. It would be like going to the casino when you cannot afford to put bread on the table.

How do you propose that we get a qb? Free agency has nothing and it is blatantly obvious that JC wont be around next year.

we DON'T get a QB... not yet. this is going to be a multi-year rebuilding process. we need to suck for a year or two and rebuild the O-Line via the draft. THEN, draft a young QB. getting a qb now would be like putting the cart in front of the horse. we would just destroy a young kid like how the lions (harrington), texans (carr), raiders (russell), and 49ers (smith) all did.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:30 am

I think a lot of fan's think that the answer is a QB or we can fix everything in one season. I think the biggest fan with that opinion is Dan Snyder. Look at what he's done in years past by picking up big name players for lots of money while not really addressing the main area's of concern.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:31 am

RedskinjXd wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:
Snout wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote: Luckily, there is a good amount of qb talent likely coming out this year so we should be able to address at least one of our needs in the first round.

I will really despair if we draft a QB in the first round. In my opinion it is not worth the risk. I would rather trade down and get some depth. We have too many needs right now to risk a first round pick on a QB. It would be like going to the casino when you cannot afford to put bread on the table.

How do you propose that we get a qb? Free agency has nothing and it is blatantly obvious that JC wont be around next year.

we DON'T get a QB... not yet. this is going to be a multi-year rebuilding process. we need to suck for a year or two and rebuild the O-Line via the draft. THEN, draft a young QB. getting a qb now would be like putting the cart in front of the horse. we would just destroy a young kid like how the lions (harrington), texans (carr), raiders (russell), and 49ers (smith) all did.

It's very possible, if you know what you are doing, to address multiple areas of need in one offseason. See the Falcons, a perfect example of a team that improved both it's qb and oline in the same offseason.

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:36 am

CanesSkins26 wrote:
RedskinjXd wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:
Snout wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote: Luckily, there is a good amount of qb talent likely coming out this year so we should be able to address at least one of our needs in the first round.

I will really despair if we draft a QB in the first round. In my opinion it is not worth the risk. I would rather trade down and get some depth. We have too many needs right now to risk a first round pick on a QB. It would be like going to the casino when you cannot afford to put bread on the table.

How do you propose that we get a qb? Free agency has nothing and it is blatantly obvious that JC wont be around next year.

we DON'T get a QB... not yet. this is going to be a multi-year rebuilding process. we need to suck for a year or two and rebuild the O-Line via the draft. THEN, draft a young QB. getting a qb now would be like putting the cart in front of the horse. we would just destroy a young kid like how the lions (harrington), texans (carr), raiders (russell), and 49ers (smith) all did.

It's very possible, if you know what you are doing, to address multiple areas of need in one offseason. See the Falcons, a perfect example of a team that improved both it's qb and oline in the same offseason.

Or do what many teams do. Draft the franchise quarterback, don't play him right away (let him learn the system and get used to the NFL), and know that the next year, you'll have another high draft pick to get a franchise OT.

That being said, we draft for talent. If the talent at our pick is QB, pick it. If it's OT, pick it. We have needs...lots of them. This will take awhile.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:42 am

We can't have a 1st round pick just sit by because this team is known for making changes every 2 years. Look at JC - the guy's been in how many offenses in his career? Draft need - that philosophy is proven.

bmitch30 · Post by **bmitch30** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:48 am

You know what folks...Today on the show it is going to be....
'redskin fans uncensored'. Call in an voice your opinions.
I want to hear what you have to say.
712-432-8220 - Show id - 5154. This is your chance to be heard!!!!

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:53 am

frankcal20 wrote:We can't have a 1st round pick just sit by because this team is known for making changes every 2 years. Look at JC - the guy's been in how many offenses in his career? Draft need - that philosophy is proven.

Qb is a need. So is offensive line. So is running back. So is wide receiver. This isn't going to be a one year fix. It's going to take a at least a couple of years to replenish not only our depth, but also our starting talent on offense.

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:24 pm

bmitch30 wrote:You know what folks...Today on the show it is going to be....
'redskin fans uncensored'. Call in an voice your opinions.
I want to hear what you have to say.
712-432-8220 - Show id - 5154. This is your chance to be heard!!!!

Posted this in a blog, so we can get the word out. Let's represent Redskins Nation and call upon the masses. Change for the sake of change is unacceptable.

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