Carlos "Ownership has the last say-so"

[frankcal20]

Rogers on Redskins' Struggles

Carlos Rogers, from the Redskins' open locker room:

"It starts not only with players and coaches, it starts with the ownership. They bring everybody in and they've got last say-so of everything, so that's where it starts, I guess."

We've all been saying it but now a player is. Honestly, I love it. You can't put the blame solely on the player's and coaches. The problem starts at the top and it's nice to hear that come from someone inside the organization. I expect him to be gone really soon b/c Danny never likes anyone talking about him even though we all do.

[cleg]

Rogers on Redskins' Struggles

Carlos Rogers, from the Redskins' open locker room:

"It starts not only with players and coaches, it starts with the ownership. They bring everybody in and they've got last say-so of everything, so that's where it starts, I guess."

We've all been saying it but now a player is. Honestly, I love it. You can't put the blame solely on the player's and coaches. The problem starts at the top and it's nice to hear that come from someone inside the organization. I expect him to be gone really soon b/c Danny never likes anyone talking about him even though we all do.

Somebody won't be getting a new contract. But, seriously I am glad CR said this but there are at least a half seasons worth of wins in his 5 years that he lost by his total inability to hold onto an INT.

[frankcal20]

I was going to start another post on this b/c I've been wondering why we never brought this guy in at least for a workout.

Mark Touscher - previously with GB - has been available all season. With all of the O-line issues we've had, why would you not bring him in, work him out so that if there is an issue, like we have had, he can come in and play right then. This is the type of back up you need - not a Batiste. This is a proven guy who has been a starter in the league since being a 7th round draft pick.

This is just another example of how our ownership/management fail to realize the real problems this team has.

[JansenFan]

More on (or should it be moron??) Dan Snyder right here...

[skins2357]

Tauscher just got signed by Green Bay. It would of made too much sense to bring him in. There is another guy named Jon Runyan who is enemployed too. But again it makes too much sense to bring him in, I would rather have 2 undrafted tackles starting!

[Redskin in Canada]

More on (or should it be moron??) Dan Snyder right here...

Thanks!

Ialready added a comment on it.

[RedskinsFreak]

More on (or should it be moron??) Dan Snyder right here...

Boss hits it so on the nail again.

All of the splashy signings and hoop-de-do on game day is the equivalent of this:



Which is nothing but a smokescreeen to keep our attention diverted so we don't notice:

[frankcal20]

Look - it's Dan Snyder.

[yupchagee]

Rogers on Redskins' Struggles

Carlos Rogers, from the Redskins' open locker room:

"It starts not only with players and coaches, it starts with the ownership. They bring everybody in and they've got last say-so of everything, so that's where it starts, I guess."

We've all been saying it but now a player is. Honestly, I love it. You can't put the blame solely on the player's and coaches. The problem starts at the top and it's nice to hear that come from someone inside the organization. I expect him to be gone really soon b/c Danny never likes anyone talking about him even though we all do.

Sounds like he has no interest in returning next year.

[yupchagee]

Tauscher just got signed by Green Bay. It would of made too much sense to bring him in. There is another guy named Jon Runyan who is enemployed too. But again it makes too much sense to bring him in, I would rather have 2 undrafted tackles starting!

At this point I wouldn't bring in over the hill guys. This season is a waste. Play the young guys.

[RayNAustin]

I've said this before, and I'll say it again. The luring of Joe Gibbs back for his second tour of duty was a fine move on Snyder's part. Yet the results were less than hoped for.

Many of us remembered Gibbs 1 coming in and taking the Redskins to the Super Bowl in his second year, but this time, not even close.

The reason is simple. Joe Gibbs was the coach of the great Redskin teams of the 1980's, but Bobby Beathard was the architect. Beathard built the roster, and he was the one who brought in Gibbs.

If I were Snyder, I would be doing everything humanly possible to convince Beathard to come back in and put the final stamp on his legacy as one of, if not the best GM's of all time in the NFL.

I have zero doubt in my mind that of any person alive today, Beathard could turn this franchise back into champions, just as he did before with KC, Miami, Washington, and San Diego.

Danny ... give the man total control of football operations ... give him whatever money he wants (he'd easily be worth three Albert Haynesworths), and sit back and be the fan that you are, and enjoy another decade of Redskin domination.

Just do it.

[frankcal20]

B. Mitch said today on his show that Danny offered him an ebarrasing contract before. I'm not sure Bobby does not see that as a slap in the face to someone who did so much for this organization. The way he throws money around, to do something to Bobby like that, I would be offended.

[RayNAustin]

B. Mitch said today on his show that Danny offered him an ebarrasing contract before. I'm not sure Bobby does not see that as a slap in the face to someone who did so much for this organization. The way he throws money around, to do something to Bobby like that, I would be offended.

Snyder, like many others has never come to the realization that it was Beathard who made the Redskins what they were. Even Cooke made that mistake when he began taking Gibbs side in the arguments over personnel. Gibbs wound up getting most of the credit, and Beathard, finally fed up with it, left, and went on to re-build San Diego, while the talent pool of the Reskins slowly deteriorated around Gibbs by his own hands.

This was true with Gibbs II also. Several of Gibbs personnel decisions were suspect during that 4 year period ... Brunell, Campbell, Rogers, letting Pierce go to your main rival, Arrington, Ducket, among others. At best, Gibbs was 50/50 on good versus bad personnel moves.

Really, not much better than Snyder/Cerrato, IMHO.

So, Snyder is the second owner of the Redskins who failed to see the true value of Bobby Beathard.

Anyone got Danny's phone number? I'll give him a call.

[DEHog]

Rogers on Redskins' Struggles

Carlos Rogers, from the Redskins' open locker room:

"It starts not only with players and coaches, it starts with the ownership. They bring everybody in and they've got last say-so of everything, so that's where it starts, I guess."

We've all been saying it but now a player is. Honestly, I love it. You can't put the blame solely on the player's and coaches. The problem starts at the top and it's nice to hear that come from someone inside the organization. I expect him to be gone really soon b/c Danny never likes anyone talking about him even though we all do.

Sounds like he has no interest in returning next year.

That was my first thought...can you blame him...he'll go elsewhere and catch everything!

[dmwc]

I think that most vet players that come here just for a check...

I think that some players dont want to play for a TEAM like this... We the Fans love the TEAM but we dont work for the org...

I feel sorry for ey right now... i truely believe he is one of the best TEs in the game and we dont even throw to him...

[SkinsJock]

Regarding Rogers - it would seem to me that he's looking to be elsewhere and soon.

The Blog by Boss Hog is spot on in my opinion because this team is in need of a complete culture change and while it would be painful - quick turnarounds are very rare - I would also support going through the process

The reason I became worried about the team was because of the effort we see on the field - Snyder has just brought in players and coaches that he thinks will become a team but he does not know enough about the game - this franchise has a lot of guys under Snyder (from Vinny on down) with little to no accountability - they all just seem to be going through the motion and justifying their lack of succes by thinking "well it's not all on me .... "

we have not seen a team with very much passion for the game in quite a long while

I think that Snyder would be amazed how much credit he would get if he brought in someone and just let him run things - it does not need to be a Beathard just someone that has the knowledge and the drive to make things work around this franchise. I agree also with Boss on this, the guy needs to have total control of the team. I would also think this will only work with Snyder's complete support - Snyder actually could not lose in this situation in my opinion - if we become a better team on the field, he will get credit for doing it and if it does not work then he cannot be held accountable as he is now.

[MEZZSKIN]

Regarding Rogers - it would seem to me that he's looking to be elsewhere and soon.

The Blog by Boss Hog is spot on in my opinion because this team is in need of a complete culture change and while it would be painful - quick turnarounds are very rare - I would also support going through the process

The reason I became worried about the team was because of the effort we see on the field - Snyder has just brought in players and coaches that he thinks will become a team but he does not know enough about the game - this franchise has a lot of guys under Snyder (from Vinny on down) with little to no accountability - they all just seem to be going through the motion and justifying their lack of succes by thinking "well it's not all on me .... "

we have not seen a team with very much passion for the game in quite a long while

I think that Snyder would be amazed how much credit he would get if he brought in someone and just let him run things - it does not need to be a Beathard just someone that has the knowledge and the drive to make things work around this franchise. I agree also with Boss on this, the guy needs to have total control of the team. I would also think this will only work with Snyder's complete support - Snyder actually could not lose in this situation in my opinion - if we become a better team on the field, he will get credit for doing it and if it does not work then he cannot be held accountable as he is now.

It needs to be done but it wont. Snyder wants to have say and wants to be involved and it doesnt matter what people think or what logic says.

Secondly I see alot posts about Passion and heart on this board and others.
The reality of the sitaution is---were not very good ..and were probably reached the point of being bad.
Sometimes lack of execution gets miscontrued has a team having no heart and no passion
These guys care ...They were playoff team in 07 and were 6-2 mid year last year......problem is.....THERE NOT VERY GOOD . That run was more of an anamoly than the norm

Having a glaring defiency of talent /depth at OLINE is not a passion problem....we have talent issues ....Landry plays out of position..Orakpo ditto that..to compensate for lack of solutions at these positions

Raiders have a passion problem they mail it in every week....

Redskins play games out but they arent very good...and when your not good and you play at the NFL LEVEL...You will get undressed more often than not.
And thats excatly what the OLINE will have done to them, for remainder of season
and it will not be from lack of passion I will tell you that. Vince Lombardi couldnt get these guys to block for 4 quarters

Its more an FO /Ownership problem...period end of story

[Chris Luva Luva]

I won't be mad if Carlos doesn't come back, I hate to see players rot on a POS team anyway. ey will bail eventually too, it broke poor Tony Gonzalez's heart to do it but he got fed up. These guys know that this franchise aint right.

[SkinsJock]

It needs to be done but it wont. Snyder wants to have say and wants to be involved and it doesnt matter what people think or what logic says.

Secondly I see alot posts about Passion and heart on this board and others.
The reality of the sitaution is---were not very good ..and were probably reached the point of being bad.
Sometimes lack of execution gets miscontrued has a team having no heart and no passion
These guys care ...They were playoff team in 07 and were 6-2 mid year last year......problem is.....THERE NOT VERY GOOD . That run was more of an anamoly than the norm


Having a glaring defiency of talent /depth at OLINE is not a passion problem....we have talent issues ....Landry plays out of position..Orakpo ditto that..to compensate for lack of solutions at these positions

Raiders have a passion problem they mail it in every week....

Redskins play games out but they arent very good...and when your not good and you play at the NFL LEVEL...You will get undressed more often than not.
And thats excatly what the OLINE will have done to them, for remainder of season
and it will not be from lack of passion I will tell you that. Vince Lombardi couldnt get these guys to block for 4 quarters

Its more an FO /Ownership problem...period end of story

I understand that the players and coaches would love to do well, that is not what I'm referring to - this is not last year's team or the team of 2007 - the way this team is playing the games this year has nothing at all to do with any other team - that is almost as stupid as the guys who say that we lost to an 0-19 team - the current Lions team is not the same team that lost the 16 games last year

playing with passion (or heart) is evident to me when you see the players and the coaches desire in the way they play or in their body language on the sidelines - I understand that certain players may not feel that the team around them is trying very well or not giving them the effort that they need in order to do their particular job well - AND that the team is not managed well - but some players play well just because that is what they do and we do not seem to have a lot of those type of players on this team

the reasons for the team not being as successful as it should be or as we expected is one thing but not playing with intensity is another -