Dan Snyder article

skinsfan4life1980 · Post by **skinsfan4life1980** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:25 pm

Good read about how Snyder is running a marketing firm not a football team.

http://www.playersvoice.com/nfl/sly-snyder.html

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:34 pm

That's where he made his money in marketing. So I would say that is his main job and the Skins is merely an investment.

skinsfan4life1980 · Post by **skinsfan4life1980** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:39 pm

frankcal20 wrote:That's where he made his money in marketing. So I would say that is his main job and the Skins is merely an investment.

pretty much..and people need to stop lying to themselves

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:43 pm

I think we all know that this is just big money fantasy football for D. Snyder. He is a fan and always has been. Hell, if I could afford to buy the Redskins, I would but I can't say that I would be effective either. He's made a lot of money and he's lost a lot of money. I'm going to stick to my $100 buy in fantasy league instead of $1 billion.

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:56 pm

Same ole same ole...It just shows you how great the NFL and in particular the Redskins brand is..I have never brought anything from the Redskins because of DS I have brought it in spite of him!!

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:16 pm

frankcal20 wrote:I think we all know that this is just big money fantasy football for D. Snyder.

Snyder isn't just some super fan playing "big money fantasy football". The guy is making crazy money off this team. Nobody can argue that he hasn't been hugely successful as an owner in terms of running a profitable team.

The New England Patriots aren't the second most valuable franchise in the league, are they?

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:24 pm

frankcal20 wrote:That's where he made his money in marketing. So I would say that is his main job and the Skins is merely an investment.

So that is why he spent $100M on Haynesworth, because that will bring he a return for his investment (financially) :roll:

Anyone who believes that is just down right foolish!

He wants to win. He could be like Bill Bidwell and several other teams and just sit back, spend virtually nothing and let the other good for nothing owners pay in to be the NFL's version of a charity case.

He wants to win, he want to make money too, but he wouldn't spend as much if he really was just looking at the bottom line!

I can't believe anyone would believe the foolishness in that article.

skinsfan4life1980 · Post by **skinsfan4life1980** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:38 pm

skinsfan#33 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:That's where he made his money in marketing. So I would say that is his main job and the Skins is merely an investment.

So that is why he spent $100M on Haynesworth, because that will bring he a return for his investment (financially)

Anyone who believes that is just down right foolish!

He wants to win. He could be like Bill Bidwell and several other teams and just sit back, spend virtually nothing and let the other good for nothing owners pay in to be the NFL's version of a charity case.

He wants to win, he want to make money too, but he wouldn't spend as much if he really was just looking at the bottom line!

I can't believe anyone would believe the foolishness in that article.

Keep buying the hype. .i cant believe people are still buying that snyder wants to win crap. He spent 100 million on Haynesworth so that people like say this is our year..then buy jersey and all that other stuff. If i thought it would make a difference i would boycott the whole team

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:07 pm

skinsfan4life1980 wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:That's where he made his money in marketing. So I would say that is his main job and the Skins is merely an investment.

So that is why he spent $100M on Haynesworth, because that will bring he a return for his investment (financially)

Anyone who believes that is just down right foolish!

He wants to win. He could be like Bill Bidwell and several other teams and just sit back, spend virtually nothing and let the other good for nothing owners pay in to be the NFL's version of a charity case.

He wants to win, he want to make money too, but he wouldn't spend as much if he really was just looking at the bottom line!

I can't believe anyone would believe the foolishness in that article.

Keep buying the hype. .i cant believe people are still buying that snyder wants to win crap. He spent 100 million on Haynesworth so that people like say this is our year..then buy jersey and all that other stuff. If i thought it would make a difference i would boycott the whole team

Dude, do the math, Snyder WON"T EVER recover that money. If he was just trying to make money then he never even thinks about Haynesworth.

You tell me how many jerseys he would have to sell to make $100M.

That is just dumb!

skinsNut · Post by **skinsNut** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:21 pm

There is no math. Dan Snyder doesn't pay salaries - the league's TV contract does - every last one of the salaries - not a drop really comes out of Snyder's pocket, or any owner's pocket - not a drop.

All $127 M of this year's cap comes from the Redskins' 'portion' of the NFL revenue contract. The salary caps are determined by the league's revenue divided equally amongst its teams... and it's not like you get to keep it if you don't spend it...

So I'm not really sure what you're talking about. There's nothing to recover really... Haynesworth won't really cost Snyder a dime.

The league also splits ALL NFL merchandise revenue EVENLY to each team. So I'm not really sure what you're driving at with the jersey comment.

skinsfan4life1980 · Post by **skinsfan4life1980** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:34 pm

Thank you for correcting that dude..and might i add Haynesworth wont even make anywhere close to that 100 prob not even half of it.

RedskinsFreak · Post by **RedskinsFreak** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:42 pm

skinsNut wrote:The salary caps are determined by the league's revenue divided amongst its teams... and it's not like you get to keep it if you don't spend it...

The cap formula is much more complicated than just "League revenues / 32". Those numbers are far from the same.

And, if you decide not to spend all of your share of the TV revenues, you certainly do get to keep it.

skinsNut · Post by **skinsNut** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:58 pm

Yeah I know, thanks - didn't think it was necessary to go into it being whatever percentage of the league's DGR (I believe it's 58% in 2009)... because I didn't think it really had anything to do with the poster's comment that somehow Dan Snyder was personally footing the bill.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:21 pm

The Redskins were purchased for 600m (I believe) and are now worth over a billion :shock:

we all know that Snyder would love to help make this team more competitive BUT despite all the money, that is not happening until he let's someone manage the team that knows what they are doing :lol:

now, let's go back a step - the team is worth over twice what it was when Snyder first got involved - why would Snyder feel that he should let someone who knows what he is doing manage this franchise :shock:

are you crazy? :lol:

skinsfan4life1980 · Post by **skinsfan4life1980** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:44 pm

SkinsJock wrote:The Redskins were purchased for 600m (I believe) and are now worth over a billion we all know that Snyder would love to help make this team more competitive BUT despite all the money, that is not happening until he let's someone manage the team that knows what they are doing

now, let's go back a step - the team is worth over twice what it was when Snyder first got involved - why would Snyder feel that he should let someone who knows what he is doing manage this franchise are you crazy?

Exactly..which is the point of the artice..as long as snyder is running the team the value will keep going up and we will never win anything...Redskins are Marketing firm..and a damn good one at that.

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:30 pm

And I ask the question again What did he do to make the Skins go up in value??

As I said my house is up 100 % since I brought it...I've done nothing!

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:03 am

DEHog wrote:And I ask the question again What did he do to make the Skins go up in value??

As I said my house is up 100 % since I brought it...I've done nothing!

Please don't tell me that you are serious when you equate a house doubling in price to a 800 million dollar valued company becoming a 1.5 billion value company...

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:05 am

PulpExposure wrote:
DEHog wrote:And I ask the question again What did he do to make the Skins go up in value??

As I said my house is up 100 % since I brought it...I've done nothing!

Please don't tell me that you are serious when you equate a house doubling in price to a 800 million dollar valued company becoming a 1.5 billion value company...

The only difference is few zeros...no one has answer the question yet?

Put in obstructed view seats?
Is the team better than when he brought it??
What is it that he’s done specifically to increase the value of the Washington Redskins??
If the Redskins were to depreciate would that be his fault??

Here's how nasty this recession is: NFL teams now are only worth as much as they were a year ago.
So says Forbes in its annual ranking of NFL team values at forbes.com, which concludes teams are still worth last year's average — a cool $1.04 billion.

That might not seem like much of a setback these days. But consider that most of the league's revenues come from national TV money — split evenly between teams — that's guaranteed via long-term deals. So while those TV deals this year boosted team revenues by 7%, says Forbes, eight teams' values — Indianapolis, Miami, Seattle, St. Louis, Detroit, Jacksonville, Atlanta and Oakland — are down this year.

Which means this is the first time in a decade that any NFL team's value dropped from the previous year. The obvious question for the rest of us: What can we do to help?

Sorry, not much. Unless you want to buy some luxury suites. Or beg your local politicians to use taxpayer money to build lavish new digs for your local NFL team.

NFL teams are largely in the commercial real estate business. Beyond their TV deals, teams also split national radio and merchandising money, then have the less-than-Herculean task of selling out eight regular-season home games.

Meaning the big variable is whether teams have an edifice complex and milk every nickel out of their stadiums. This year's seven most-valuable teams — led by Dallas at $1.65 billion and followed by Washington, New England, the New York Giants and Jets, Houston and Philadelphia — were ranked in the same order last year.

Breath easy: It will take more than this recession for any NFL owner's private jet to go wheels-up without enough Grey Poupon onboard Of random interest to me is that the Bengals, as poorly run a pro sports team in terms of on-field savvy as exists checks in at 21 and Pittsburgh, as well run on-field a sports franchise as you can hope to find comes in at 16. So Mike Brown is not being punished for his incompetence.

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:05 am

DEHog wrote:Is the team better than when he brought it??

Not a lot, but his Redskins have had a better record than the Skins post Gibbs 1.0!