WINS in 2009

screwgun · Post by **screwgun** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:46 am

Seriously fans, How many wins do you think we are getting this year ?? The general consensous is 8-8 . I feel it's more like 10-6

But will that be good enough for a playoff spot ??

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:29 am

11 or 12.

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:00 am

I am with the consensus plus / minus one game: 9-7 , 8-8, or 7-9

No playoffs, of course.

redskindave · Post by **redskindave** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:00 am

Im going with 11 Wins

ArlingtonSkinsFan · Post by **ArlingtonSkinsFan** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:36 am

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:40 am

ArlingtonSkinsFan wrote:16

72 Dolphins or 08 Lions?

Just asking ... :lol:

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:55 am

Gun to my head...betting the house...I say we go 6-4 outside the division. Playoffs will hinge on division record...I'm going 7-9

FanofallthatisGibbs · Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:16 am

I'll take a stab at it (all hinges on injuries and turnovers, so this is meaningless but fun):

@ NYG - L - sorry, this team is not quite there yet and in NY to start the season - brutal again!

vs. Rams - W - home opener + revenge factor = success

@ Lions - W - Lions really still not there, but this one will be scary to watch I think.

vs. Bucs - W - on the eve of my birthday, my Skins come through for me!

@ Panthers - L - we just don't play them well, and they are a tough team that stylistically will be a bad matchup IMO. EDIT: I stand corrected thanks to Mursilis that we have only lost once to them in the regular season. I still think this one will be a tough battle we lose.

vs. Chiefs - W - get back on track at home against a team who is struggling to ID their QB. That's just the tip of the iceberg for KC.

vs. Eagles - W - Somehow the Redskins will perform in Primetime. I think our D is exactly the type of team the Eagles will suffer against. I see them as the 4th team in the East honestly. Too many changes to overcome.

@ Falcons - L - tough one to call. Should be a great game. I see home field advantage as the difference here in two Wild Card caliber.

vs. Broncos - W - a franchise that has hit bottom this year. Are they this year's version of last year's Lions?

@ Cowboys - L - this one hurts, but the Cowboys will find a way to win in their new home. I threw up in my mouth a little writing that.

@ Eagles - W - Haynesworth and Co. continue to wreak havoc on McNabb and friends... Philly fans start booing and calling for Vick to start at QB.

vs. Saints - W - this would be nice. I dunno, we seem to find a way to beat the Saints regardless of how good or bad they are.

@ Oakland - W - Raider nation just stays in the parking lots to get hammered by this time of year. Long trip, easy win though.

vs. NYG - L - Giants are similar to the Skins, but better in most aspects of the game. Giants clinch NFC East with this win.

vs. Cowboys - W - when the Wild Card is on the line, the Skins rise to the occasion against the cow pies.

@ Chargers - L - tough road game against the best in the AFC West. Disclaimer - if the rest of the AFC West is that bad, we may be playing against the 2nd string team. Let's hope so if playoffs are on the line.

That comes to a 10-6 season. I think it's reasonable. The schedule is fairly weak with the AFC West. Giants win 11 or 12 games I bet. Cowboys lose out in tie breaker and fail to make the playoffs. Eagles are a mediocre 8-8 with Philly fans calling for McNabb's head again.

Only a week to go to see how it all really goes down! HAIL!!!

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:17 am

The way the Norm was treated here, I don't think so. I think he would run the score up on us if he could.

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:21 am

I'm going with 9-7. It's a tough division. The entire division was .500 and over last year and both the Pies and Eagles beat us by one game, finishing at 9-7. In fact, the NFC East and the NFC South were the only divisions in football to finish the season with all teams at .500 or better. So in my opinion, 9-7 in this division isn't that bad. The Eagles made it to the NFC Championship coming off a 9-7 record. I'm not suggesting that the Skins are going to the conference championship, but 9-7 still may see the playoffs.

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:03 pm

Redskin in Canada wrote:I am with the consensus plus / minus one game: 9-7 , 8-8, or 7-9

No playoffs, of course.

Come on RIC.....stay positive

TeeterSalad · Post by **TeeterSalad** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:19 pm

I'll go "on the record" and say i think the skins will go 10-6 this season.

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:56 pm

SkinsFreak wrote:I'm going with 9-7. It's a tough division. The entire division was .500 and over last year and both the Pies and Eagles beat us by one game, finishing at 9-7. In fact, the NFC East and the NFC South were the only divisions in football to finish the season with all teams at .500 or better. So in my opinion, 9-7 in this division isn't that bad. The Eagles made it to the NFC Championship coming off a 9-7 record. I'm not suggesting that the Skins are going to the conference championship, but 9-7 still may see the playoffs.

If gambles with OL pay off, nine wins sounds right.

cleg · Post by **cleg** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:47 pm

Since the schedule came out I have seen this as a 7-9, 8-8 or 9-7 team. I got all geeked up for a bit and thought 10-6 or 11-5 then I watched the preseason and came back down to earth.

I do think though, if we upset the Gnats in Week 1 then we go to the playoffs barring any loses to the Rams or Lions like last year (rams and bengles).

Chisel Monkey · Post by **Chisel Monkey** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:33 pm

Aren't we giving too much credit to the other teams in our division? Last I checked the other teams have lost some key players. T.O. to Buffalo...Plaxico shooting himself...and the Eagles losing their defensive playmakers.

I think NY will be fine because of their D and running game but the cowgirls and iggles have huge questions. I think we will fare well in our division and at worst split for the year. If that is the case AND we actually come out and perform for the ones we should win...10-6 or even 11-5 is a possibility.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:49 pm

7-9, 8-8 or 9-7

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:51 pm

7-9, 8-8 or 9-7

Mursilis · Post by **Mursilis** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:55 am

I'm going the pragmatic route and picking a repeat of last year - 8-8. It's really going to hinge on the offense - if they can put up a good-to-great performance, 10+ wins is easily possible. Otherwise, 8 wins might even be too generous. The season will hinge on whether the passing attack goes to the next level or not, basically.

FanofallthatisGibbs wrote:@ Panthers - L - we just don't play them well, and they are a tough team that stylistically will be a bad matchup IMO.

I just don't get comments like this. Historically, the 'skins are 7-1 against the Panthers, and last time they met, the disastrous (for the 'skins, who went 5-11) 2006 season, the 'skins won, despite the fact Carolina was a better team (8-8) that year and Campbell was only playing in his second game as a starter. But hey, I guess "we just don't play them well". :-k

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:12 am

10-6

If the offense improves marginally, I say the defense improves enough to be worth an addtional 2 wins.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:22 am

Mursilis wrote:Historically, the 'skins are 7-1 against the Panthers

And that one loss is in dispute in my book. I think Steven Davis fumbled before breaking the plane on the winning TD.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:37 am

I will say 8-8 but if we can get to 9-7, I agree with SkinsFreak - that might be good enough to be a playoff spot considering both the NFC East and the fact that the NFC East is against the NFC South this year

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:21 am

I think that having our first game of the season be against the giants could be a good thing - the giants obviously are having some concerns about their WR position in that they have decided to keep 7 :shock:

I'm not predicting a win but at the same time, beating the giants will be a little easier when they cannot really prepare for what our team looks like this year - I know the same holds true for our team but ..... :twisted:

RedskinjXd · Post by **RedskinjXd** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:59 am

i posted this on a different thread...
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i am pretty confident the skins will be favored in 8 of 16 games this year. i know betting lines mean very little, but i am pretty good at guessing betting lines.. so i figured i would have some fun with it. (and yes, i know many factors will change future odds. but this is what i think the lines would be if they played week 1)

I would love to hear arguments either way if you think any of my lines are off!!!

okay... game by game...

@giants: +6
this is the current line. no dispute

rams: -14
week 6 last year had this same matchup. the line was -14 then. i think the skins are better and rams are worse. but i'll still say -14.

@lions: -6
last year, skins played in detroit, were 7.5 point favorites, and won by 8. lions, even with a rookie QB are better than last year. trim 1.5 off that line.

bucs: -3.5
last year in week 3, the skins were 3 point favs at home over the cards. i think that cards team going into that game was better than what the bucs will offer.

@panthers: +4
if the giants are 6 point favs in the season opener, then the panthers should be fav'd by a little less than that. infact, the eagles are 1 point favorites AT carolina in week 1.

chiefs: -7
k.c. is not a good football team. better than last year, though. and baltimore is 10 point home favorite in week 1 over the chiefs. i'll knock 3 off of that for the skins home matchup.

eagles: +5
eagles are betting darlings. last year, they were 5 point favs in washington. skins won that one 10-3. still, that line may hold up again this year.

@falcons: +3.5
falcons are a 4 point fav at home vs. the dolphins. skins are better than miami.

broncos: -6.5
what does it say when the bengals are 4 point favs over the broncos in week one. wow. this could be a very bad team this year.

@cowboys: +4
giants are 6 in the opener. cowboys, not as good as giants.

@eagles: +8
eagles are better than cowboys and giants. and get bet more than both. last year was 6 in philly

saints: -1
week 2 last year featured this matchup. line was -1 one then. both teams improved a bit. keep'n the line the same.

@raiders: -4.5
another bad football team. road game keeps this line smaller than it should be. chargers favored by 9 at oakland in week 1. conservatively knocking that down by half.

giants: +3
using the standard 3 point adjustment, home to away, to come up with +3.

cowboys: -2
a little more of a betting line swing here than the 3 used in the giants and eagles matchups due to huge rivalry storyline. dallas was fav'd by 2 in d.c. last year. skins got better, dallas got worse.

@chargers: +6
put them on par with the giants... and giants are 6 point home fav's. line could change dramatically into the skins favor if the chargers have the AFC west wrapped up. don't see how they don't.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:53 pm

Deadskins wrote:
Mursilis wrote:Historically, the 'skins are 7-1 against the Panthers

And that one loss is in dispute in my book. I think Steven Davis fumbled before breaking the plane on the winning TD.

HEROHAMO · Post by **HEROHAMO** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:05 pm

I am with RIC 8-8 with the plus/minus one game.