SnyderSucks wrote:KazooSkinsFan wrote:SnyderSucks wrote:So should every team that doesn't have a pro bowler dump their QB until they find one?
What a pointless question. That is so not the discussion. First of all almost everyone is saying JC should start this year, at least at the start of the season. Second of all a lot of us stuck with him to give him a real chance. I was defending him until...NOW...for example. And like the others I still want him to start, I'm just saying I'm near the end of my chances without getting more in return in performance then we've been getting from him.
Your question isn't a question, it's an agenda. If you want to argue that JC could be the answer argue that, don't play games with contrived questions that miss the discussion.
I don't think it is pointless at all. Campbell has not played at a pro bowl level, but he hasn't been a disaster. You say you are near the end of your chances without getting more in return. I take that to mean you would advocate replacing him after the season if he isn't substantially better. My point is that even if he's no better this year than last, he's still a middle of the pack NFL QB. If they dump him for a draft pick, the odds are pretty high that the draft pick is substantially worse than Campbell, and only marginal that he would be substantially better.
I'd beg to differ. Campbell has been and continues to be a "disaster". Choosing him as a "franchise QB" is a proven mistake at this point, yet he continues to be treated LIKE a "franchise QB". And aside from an injury that allowed the Redskins to reach the playoffs in 2007, the offense has been pathetic, with only brief flashes of competence that some view as potential future greatness instead of what it really was ... perpetual ineffectiveness.
Now I wouldn't classify Collins as anything more than a reasonably capable player who makes the best of his limited talent, but he is, and has been a better QB, which he proved in 2007. That should have been recognized as the RED FLAG that it was beginning 2008. But it wasn't, and Campbell was declared the starter without a hint of competition. The corner the Redskins painted themselves into by putting all of their eggs in Campbell's basket is a self inflicted wound that they seem willing to continue until yet another season (2009) is a lost cause just as they surely would have done in 2007 had Campbell not been injured.
Of course, Collins is not the long term solution. That's obvious. But Campbell isn't either, given the attempts to replace him in the offseason. And aside from a miraculous 2009 season by Campbell (anyone see that as a remote possibility?), the Redskins won't be resigning him to a big contract, and he won't re-up for backup pay. So he's most likely gone after this year anyway. So why proceed as if he is the future when the odds are that his days are already numbered?
Given the upgrades to an already stout defense .. a shorn up O-line and the talent on offense (Portis,
ey, Moss, Kelley, Davis, Betts, Mitchell), this team has the personnel to make the playoffs given "reasonable" production on offense (i.e. POINTS, not footwork or potential or strong arm). Collins has proven that he can deliver the points, while Campbell continues to prove he can't.
Why not put Collins in there now? He might provide the same level of competence he did in 2007, which would be significantly better than what we've seen from Campbell.
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