Who is getting cut next Tuesday?

Redskin_fan · Post by **Redskin_fan** » Tue May 25, 2004 7:41 pm

Besides Jeremiah Trotter, does anyone anticipate any surprise cuts on June 1st? Perhaps Trung Canidate?

redskindave · Post by **redskindave** » Tue May 25, 2004 8:07 pm

I think Canidate and Trotter are pretty much for sure cuts, Im interested in seeing who the number 3 Quarterback will be Hamden or Hasselbeck?... Hamden is getting some experence in NFL Europe and he has a strong arm, But can he beat out Hasselbeck?... any one have an opinion on this?... HTTR

Redskin_fan · Post by **Redskin_fan** » Tue May 25, 2004 8:23 pm

I don't think they have to make a decision on the number 3 QB until well into Training Camp. If I'm not mistaken, NFL Europe players don't count against your training camp roster as teams are forced to pair down - until they get to the second to last cut?

vpar2 · Post by **vpar2** » Tue May 25, 2004 8:50 pm

I think they will keep all four QB's--they increased the size of the practice squad this year, so 1 or 2 will be there. Plus, Hasselbeck and Hamdan both have potential, and Hasselbeck played fairly well last year, so releasing them would be a mistake.

ii7-V7 · Post by **ii7-V7** » Tue May 25, 2004 9:09 pm

redskindave wrote:I think Canidate and Trotter are pretty much for sure cuts,

I wouldn't be so sure about Candidate. I'm not saying the guy will stay around, but I don't really feel that Gibbs has shown his hand yet. Trotter is as definite as we can possible be, but not the same for Candidate.

Chad

fands57 · Post by **fands57** » Tue May 25, 2004 9:10 pm

I don't think that Canidate is a sure cut at all. The last I heard Gibbs wanted him to compete with Betts for the number 2 RB job in training camp. Canidate gives us depth at the position, and he only costs $915,000 to keep, so it wouldn't benefit us that much to cut him. Plus, he has no bonus on his contract, so why would Gibbs wait until June 1 if he really wanted to cut him. Trotter will be the only one cut in my opinion.

Smithian · Post by **Smithian** » Tue May 25, 2004 9:20 pm

fands57 wrote:I don't think that Canidate is a sure cut at all.

I hope you're right. For some reason, I really like him and think he deserves a chance.

People always say that people like Bowen and Betts will flourish under Gibbs and the right coaching... What about Ohalete and Canidate? The coaches are coaching everyone, right?

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Tue May 25, 2004 9:21 pm

I think Trotter is a sure cut. A few months ago, I thought the same about Canidate but for a little while, I've been thinking that he will be a great backup for us. I think Trung stays. I wish I could think of another cut but just can't come up with any.

JonC56 · Post by **JonC56** » Wed May 26, 2004 1:46 am

Candidate was a great back up in St. Louis. When faulk got hurt three years ago he stepped in and put up monster numbers,(had him on my fantasy team

). I think that he can be a great back up for the skins. I also iniatally though ohalete might have gotten cut, but they just re signed him so I cant really think of any off the top of my head, with the exception of trotter.

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Wed May 26, 2004 8:51 am

JonC56 wrote:Candidate was a great back up in St. Louis. When faulk got hurt three years ago he stepped in and put up monster numbers,(had him on my fantasy team ).

I disagree. He only had one good game to my knowledge (against the Jets in 2001) and never put up good stats.

Year Team G GS Att Yards Avg Lg TD 20+
2000 St. Louis Rams 3 0 3 6 2.0 3 0 0
2001 St. Louis Rams 16 2 78 441 5.7 45 6 5
2002 St. Louis Rams 16 1 17 48 2.8 22 0 1

http://nfl.com/players/playerpage/187503

JonC56 wrote:I think that he can be a great back up for the skins.

I totally agree with this statement, though. I backup running back who put up 600 yards in 10 games and has great speed is pretty nice to have.

Steve Spurrier III · Post by **Steve Spurrier III** » Wed May 26, 2004 9:21 am

5.7 yards per carry in 2001 looks like some good numbers to me...

JDC · Post by **JDC** » Wed May 26, 2004 9:57 am

Trung is a skilled player, we should keep him. I am worried about not having a muscle back though. Rock is the closest, I guess.

GoSkins · Post by **GoSkins** » Wed May 26, 2004 10:05 am

I am much more interested in who the OTHER teams will cut on 6/1. I believe Trotter will our only cut. I also believe we will sign 1-2 DL after 6/1. Then we should be set.

redskinchica · Post by **redskinchica** » Wed May 26, 2004 10:11 am

So training camp starts June 1st?

Redskins1974 · Post by **Redskins1974** » Wed May 26, 2004 10:24 am

Nope - just June 1st cuts, 'skinschica.

I agree that Trotter is gone. I hope Rock makes it through, I love that dude - he's a beast for a 5'7" guy.

redskinchica · Post by **redskinchica** » Wed May 26, 2004 10:29 am

Okay, thanks!

When do camp start?

Redskins Rule · Post by **Redskins Rule** » Wed May 26, 2004 10:48 am

I have to say that for June 1 it will only be Trotter. Whether Trung or Hasselbeck/Hamdan get cut....well I think that will be determined in training camp and the preseason games.

JonC56 · Post by **JonC56** » Wed May 26, 2004 12:26 pm

Jake, I was reffering to the numbers he put up when he started for the rams when faulk went out. Here are his game by game stats for 2001, take a look for your self.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/g ... 0.htm#2001

I would say that of the 2 games he started and the one game he played the majority of, those are monster numbers.

23 carries-195 yds 37 yds recieving and 2 touchdowns. absoultely amazing for a backup, and then he followed it up with 2 extremely solid games

ace phoenix · Post by **ace phoenix** » Wed May 26, 2004 12:27 pm

The real question is who will everyone else cut and who can we pick up to help fill in our d-line. Outside of the d-line i feel we are set with starters and back-ups at every position. So let's hope for a few good linemen on the wire...

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Wed May 26, 2004 2:15 pm

JonC56 wrote:Jake, I was reffering to the numbers he put up when he started for the rams when faulk went out. Here are his game by game stats for 2001, take a look for your self.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/g ... 0.htm#2001

I would say that of the 2 games he started and the one game he played the majority of, those are monster numbers.

23 carries-195 yds 37 yds recieving and 2 touchdowns. absoultely amazing for a backup, and then he followed it up with 2 extremely solid games

OK, if you were referring to him filling in for Faulk, then I agree, he did a decent job in 2001. Not really for his whole career in St. Louis.

ChillWill · Post by **ChillWill** » Wed May 26, 2004 4:26 pm

Trung has one major handicap in a Joe Gibs offense and that is he cannot block. He may benefit greatly from working with Ernest Byner who in his day could block with the best of them and will not tolerate soft play from Trung.

Smithian · Post by **Smithian** » Wed May 26, 2004 5:11 pm

ChillWill wrote:Trung has one major handicap in a Joe Gibs offense and that is he cannot block.

I hate to say it, but I disagree. Canidate can block, but not way too well. I have watched highlights online, and, sometimes, you'll see Canidate through a crucial block on a scoring play.

I forget which game it was, but I know one game on a scoring play where our QB, Hasselbeck or Ramsey, I think Ramsey, ran around in the backfield a tiny bit before throwing... Trung Canidate literally killed a blitzing linebacker. The linebacker got to the outside, didn't pay attention to Trung. Canidate smashed into him with his entire body and the guy was smashed to the ground.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Wed May 26, 2004 5:13 pm

ChillWill wrote:Trung has one major handicap in a Joe Gibs offense and that is he cannot block.

Are you basing this solely on last year? 'Cause Spurrier's offense made many a Skin look inept. Rock looked like a matador on several ocassions. OLÉ!!!

ChillWill · Post by **ChillWill** » Wed May 26, 2004 5:21 pm

Points well taken gentlemen.

I believe that most of our backs did not have a clue last year where the blitzes were coming from. That aside their blocking technique was lacking.

One thing that a lot of folks overlook with Stephen Davis is that he's always been a pretty good blocker.

I wonder if Chad Morton wil run from scrimmage at all next season with this glut of running backs.

HitDoctor · Post by **HitDoctor** » Wed May 26, 2004 10:13 pm

I'm not happy about giving up trotter.