Spurrier - dumb comments

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:29 am

"Hopefully, we can block a little bit better as we go through the season. If not we are in trouble. We have to block people, and I don't think we are doing it well enough to beat a lot of teams right now."

no sh*t! Is it just me or are there others out there who believe our coach is in over his head? :cry:

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:33 am

^^^^ He seems to never have an asnwer for anything.

I don't know if anyone here watches the Spurrier show. But his answers are always along the lines of "I don't know".

Ray Charles could have seen that we need to block better.

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:00 pm

I don't get to watch the show....but it probably goes something like

"ah shucks, we need to do a better job coachin' and playin' and pitchin' it around a little bit better. We ain't that good of a football team, right now...not sure we ever will be"

gives me as a fan and I'm sure the players just loads of confidence in their leader

najhril · Post by **najhril** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:44 pm

I agree, whole heartedly..This is a different game at this level, we now have the talent and he's still not very close to getting it done. This Sunday (first half only) was the first time in his short tenure, that we began the game with some plays that amounted to what I thought would be a game plan..needless to say, when it came time for second half adjustments, the Skins went without, again. Thus, resulting in yet another situation where our ole ball coach was badly out manned.

ace phoenix · Post by **ace phoenix** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:50 pm

Well maybe i am dumb for continuing to think that we are improving and that spurrier is getting better.
We have a QB that has started now 11 games, that is only 7 more than Kyle Bowler for god's sake and i think we would all rather have Ramsey.
Yes our talent is better, no we are not a Super Bowl contender. Maybe we should be, to paraphrase the coach, I don't know.
But i do know that we at least move the ball some and at times look good. To me our defense is killing us. Stupid penalties this weekend, all on them, allowing a 1st on 3rd and 15 all on them. 3 linebackers blitzing from the same spot on the same play....well who the hell knows who messed that one up...
I don't think spurrier should go and i do believe we are a better ball club, but we all want to see W's. That is all that seems to matter.
So let's get some regardless who is coaching...

learnnew · Post by **learnnew** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 8:18 pm

spurrier always speaks the same way. spoke always the same way after fsu games. the man believes a lot in his offense and is a bit reluctant to change. this is well known and it can also be a good thing. it looks like changes will be a bit slow to come. but one thing is for certain. spurrier is not an adamant man, he is flexible and has a lot of commonsense. so he will change. i expect some significant changes after the bye week in our protection schemes and just the way plays are called. right now it is not very easy to just ask P-Ram to roll left or right on each of those passing plays. he needs some time working on them. so if the coaches *have* figured out some changes to make, the question will be how easy are they to implement, considering the players only have about 2 days to practice the game plan for the next game.

it is not that spurrier has never tweaked his offense for protection. one game that comes to mind is the florida's national championship game in jan 1997. fsu hit wuerffel so often in the regular season that spurrier went for shotgun and 3-step drops all game long in the national championship game and put together a bunch of amazing plays from shotgun. result? 52-20 fl-fsu. he just needs time to put them together.

patience is a virtue

the darn thing logged me out after posting my reply!!!

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 6:12 pm

i'm not happy the way ANY of the talent is being guided at this point. the coaching staff is young, and the team is young(for the most part). maybe that means good things to come. but right now ...... i don't know, some really dumb stuff is going on right now. i even kinda sort of wish we still had marty. at least the guy is a leader and a motivator, unlike spurrier. edwards needs a little time too. the only reason we have looked good at any point is because of sheer talent, if we were all on the same page, it would be a good thing. spurrier is doing better with his play calling, but not coaching. i'll wait till the end of the season before i say anything rash, but i want to see some heads rollin at this point.

newshog · Post by **newshog** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 3:24 pm

Honestly, I'd rather hear Spurrier say "Wailp, not sure what to do about this, but we'll keep working on it" than hear him say, "I know exactly what's wrong but I've been keeping that knowledge from my team." Which is really the only alternative to the first statement.

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 6:30 pm

All I know is he better figure it out quick or he won't be around long to prove he can coach at this level.

As I've said before, I think he's over his head at the head coaching level and would be better suited as an OC. Way too many things are going left uncorrected that the head coach is ultimately responsbile for. God, I hope he proves me wrong.

NORM · Post by **NORM** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:03 pm

IT SEEMS LIKE THE WHOLE TEAM HAS GIVEN UP EXCEPT THE PUNTER AND KICKER. CAN'T THIS MAN MOTIVATE A TEAM ?. THEIR IS TOO MUCH TALENT ON THIS TEAM TO BE PLAYING THIS BAD .

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:08 pm

Agreed Norm, I think as you scope us out here you won't see anyone disagreeing with you.

(One small favor - all caps is like shouting, can you cut that off? thanks!)

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:12 pm

Hell Rich, I think he was shouting... I know I have been all day

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:14 pm

waitadamnminute

Why am I laughing - I ain't a happy camper either...

::sigh:: guess I have to get my chuckles where I can right now...

NORM · Post by **NORM** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:58 am

ONE CAN ONLY WONDER WHAT KIND OF TEAM THE JETS WOULD HAVE IF THEY HAD ONLY KEPT THOSE PLAYERS THEY LET THE SKINS GET . EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT HAVING THAT GOOD OF YEAR . THE JETS PLAY WITH DESIRE. THE SKINS HAVE NO DESIRE OUT ON THE FIELD. I BLAME THAT ON THE COACHING. MOTAVATION AND DESIRE IS WHAT MAKES A GOOD TEAM. IT'S TIME TO MAKE A CHANGE. NORM

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 1:44 pm

Ever heard their coach speak - that man could light a church up any day he wanted to retire from football - and he wouldn't need electricity to do it.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 2:37 pm

skinsfaninroanoke wrote:Ever heard their coach speak - that man could light a church up any day he wanted to retire from football - and he wouldn't need electricity to do it.

Personally, I think Herm's a jerk. But that's just me.

I'm not ready to throw in the towel on Spurrier just yet. I don't put all of the blame on him. He's got a O-line coach who probably would have the Hogs giving up 7 sacks per game. That guy can't coach his way out of a wet paper sack.

Then you've got an owner who tries his best to be Jerrah. Only difference between him and Jerrah is that Jerrah knows enough about football to do a respectable job. He also lets his coach do his job (and I *HATE* Jerrah). As much as I hate seeing Jerrah strolling the sidelines, at least he is doing it more as a cheerleader. If THE-DANNY were to do the same, he'd probably be taking Steve's headset and calling plays. I would even bet my house that Snyder has checked into getting some device that would allow him to conference-call to Ramsay's helmet while Spurrier is giving him the play!

The problem ain't Spurrier! The problem is the midget in the luxury box and his evil minion (Mini-Me), Vinny Cerrato!!

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 3:23 pm

I disagree, but that is my opinion. I still think the man went out and spent 5 mil a year to bring in someone who could turn the offense around and the man is not working out and isn't adjusting. Spurrier is the one looking like an idiot on the sidelines

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 4:05 pm

I disagree, The owner is the right man for the job. He brings in the players that the coaches want. He wants to win just like the fans.

Guest.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 4:20 pm

redskincity wrote:I disagree, The owner is the right man for the job. He brings in the players that the coaches want. He wants to win just like the fans. Guest.

I'm hoping that somehow I'm missing sarcasm ..

The owner obviously wants to win. I think on occasion he's made the right move, personnell-wise. But then he goes and gets the coach *HE* wanted, and at every turn he pulls the rug out from under 'im! Bringing in consultants is the worst way of telling your coach that "you have no clue, so I'm bringing some SMART people in to help."

Is it too much to ask for the owner to let the coach, coach?!

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 4:30 pm

I wasn't laughing when giving the board my opinion. So.... whatever. The power of positive thinking

Guest, cause and effect, prompted the Owner to do what he had to do. We are doing worst with better players. :roll:

What are the coaches doing to prevent such embarrassment :wink:

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 6:38 pm

redskincity wrote:I wasn't laughing when giving the board my opinion. So.... whatever. The power of positive thinking

Guest, cause and effect, prompted the Owner to do what he had to do. We are doing worst with better players.

What are the coaches doing to prevent such embarrassment

The key event of this whole season is when Snyder showed a lack of trust in his $5million coach by siding with Mini-Me in cutting Wuerffel! What a **DUMB** decision THAT was! The arrogance (again!) of Snyder that "it's okay .. Wuerffel will be sitting by the phone just waiting for us to call." That, I think, will be the one thing that started the downward spiral in the Spurrier era!

I will say it til I turn BLUE! Snyder is THE problem!! This coaching staff doesn't even have trust in their head coach because he doesn't have the trust of the owner. How many times do we have to watch this owner undermine his coach-of-the-week?!

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:54 pm

You can keep saying it and there is nothing to be done about it. If that is the way you feel, so be it, but I feel like it is wasted energy.

The owner has tried - people suggested Marty - he came in and wreaked havoc trading away people who are good starters on other teams... no - scratch that... he didn't get anything for 'em - he released them. He pissed off the players and we went 0-5. The defense wasn't good and the offense looked almost as bad as now.

People thought, and dammit I know I read hundreds of "OH HELL YEAH" posts on many different boards when Spurrier was hired, that Snyder did a great thing hiring Spurrier. Oh, but now, after hiring him, bringing in tons of talent that the coach wanted.... it is all HIS fault that the coach looks like a ninny and doesn't have a clue that his system won't work versus the NFL's speed?

I don't care who says it. Snyder may muddle into things sometimes, but Spurrier is at fault for the system, the defensive coordinator and the problems with the team as we speak. To tell me the owner, with obvious pain in his eyes, watching the game from the owner's box in Dallas is the one with the problems when Spurrier looks lost on the sidelines - whatever.

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 11:02 pm

The Man

well written

Riggo · Post by **Riggo** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:54 pm

(BTW -- those posts were from me -- I wasn't logged in when I posted them)

I didn't say that we could do anything about the owner. I'm not stupid. I also don't have ~$1Billion laying around to buy the team.

**BUT**

I also think that you're giving too much credit to Snyder. You're in effect saying that he has done everything right, and has followed good advice. I disagree. I think that Snyder does what (arrogant) Snyder wants! Has he made some good moves? Absolutely. I still think that hiring Spurrier was a good idea. I think he'll turn it around *IF* Snyder doesn't pull the rug out from under him again!

Spurrier was the coach HE wanted. If he throws in the towel before the end of next season on Spurrier, who is he going to get to coach the team next?! No one in their right mind would even consider working for Snyder. Then again, are there any coaches "in their right mind?"

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:14 am

No - I said he is doing what people have told him to do, which isn't the same thing as not making mistakes. He admitted he screwed up spending on the Jeff George era Skins. He admitted that he made decisions that are wrong.

I have simply grown tired of listening to grown people stating that someone that owns a team doesn't have the right or the ability to lead. I have agreed that we need to boot Cerrato and get a good GM in there for personnel decisions.

I have disagreed with personnel decisions Snyder has made.

I still say that Spurrier and his cadre of coaches are LOST. They look LOST, they sound LOST and they refuse to adapt or learn.

For goodness sake - they have been schooled and all people can do is blame Snyder. You can call him arrogant - although if you have never met him and actually gotten to know him, you can't be sure he is. I can't be sure he isn't cause I haven't met him.

I still say that if he makes ANY move right now, people will call him all these names and he is in a no win situation.

I have said that he has followed the advice of the people around him, gotten the talent the coaches wanted, spent money like water doing what Cerrato and the rest of the scouts and front office thought was right. I still say that the man is being made a scapegoat for a system that is not adapting well to the NFL and that isn't being fixed on the coaching level.

If the coaches won't change and they keep LOSING, what would you do in your non egotistical non arrogant non evil way? Keep sticking with him like John Cooke kept with moron boy Turner? When you increase the talent on the team and have a worse record, you have to challenge the coach's thinking.

Quite frankly, with the idea that we should just sit and wait on Spurrier and Edwards et al to wise up, I am personally glad that there are some fans that don't have the money

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