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OK! We have a somewhat stable roster to slide into training camp, can anyone project a 53-man roster to start the season?? Let's make it a little easier and predict 2 versions; a Probable and a Wish (allowing for trades, etc.).
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Impossible do to rising players an unexpected players making the roster and injuries and roster additions. But lets play this game with how is the roster now (no injuries or wishes). list goes in order of starters first.

QB - Jason Campbell, Todd Collins, Colt Brennan
RB Portis, Betts, Aldrige, FB - Sellers, Mason - PS
WR - Santana Moss, Devin Thomas, Randle El, Kelly, Roydell Williams,
Marko Mitchell - PS
TE - Cooley, Davis, Yoder
OL - Samuels, Dockery, Rabach, Thomas, Heyer, Bridges,Clark, Rhinehart, Jansen Edwin Williams - PS
DT- Haynesworth, Griffin, Montgomery, Golston
DE - Carter, Daniels, Buzbee, Alexander, Jackson
LB - McIntosh, Fletcher. Orakpo, Blades, Thomas, Fincher,Cody
S - Landry, Horton, Moore, Reed
CB - Hall, Rogers, Smoot, Barnes, Tyrone
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I think that Collins is gone this year. Zorn is really pushing Colt, he's going to be #2. The rookie will be #3...
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Ill take a stab at it also..

QB - Jason Campbell, Colt Brennan, Todd Collins

RB - Clinton Portis, Ladell Betts, Anthony Aldridge

FB - Mike Sellers, Rock Cartwright

TE - Chris Cooley, Fred Davis, Todd Yoder

WR - Santana Moss, Devin THomas, Malcolm Kelly, Randle El, Roydell Williams, James Thrash

OT - Chris Samuels, Jon Jansen, Stephon Heyer, Jeremy Bridges

OG - Derrick Dockery, Randy Thomas, Chad Rhineheart

C - Casey Rabach, Edwin Williams

DE - Andre Carter, Brian Orakpo, Phillip Daniels, Ranaldo Wynn

DT - Ablert Haynesworth, Cornelius Griffin, Anthony Montgomery, Cedrick Gholston

OLB - Rocky McIntosh, Chris Wilson, Cody Glenn, Alfred Fincher

MLB - London Fletcher, HB Blades, Robert Henson

S - LaRon Landry, Chris Horton, Kareen Moore, Reed Doughty

CB - DeAngelo Hall, Carlos Rodgers, Kevin Barnes, Fred Smoot, Byron Westbrook

K - Shawn Suisham

P - Hunter Smith

LS - Ethan Albright




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yeah, skins2357. I have some doubts that Westbrook will supplant Tryon as the fifth corner. Wasn't he a practice squad guy last couple of years?
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I don't see Thrash or Cartwright making the team this year.

I know both are hard workers, contribute on special teams and are good locker room guys, but I don't think their production justifies a roster spot.

Rock is an OK kick returner, but he's more safe than explosive at it. More to the point, he doesn't provide that change of pace you need on third down. And the Redskins seem to understand that or they wouldn't have recruited three or four water bugs this off-season. If the little guys implode, Rock will be back. But otherwise, I think Zorn is looking for someone who can add another dimension to his offense.

Ditto for Thrash. He's a quality person, but he brings neither size nor speed to the receiving game. Much has been made of his special teams work and how many tackles he makes, but as the gunner he's the first man down on punt coverage. Making tackles is his job. It would be news if he wasn't. That doesn't mean he's the only guy who could.
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Jeff Rhodes wrote:I don't see Thrash or Cartwright making the team this year.


Cut. Them. Both.
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Jeff Rhodes wrote:I don't see Thrash or Cartwright making the team this year.


Yep, I think they are both gone.
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Irn-Bru wrote:
Jeff Rhodes wrote:I don't see Thrash or Cartwright making the team this year.


Yep, I think they are both gone.


I agree. We may regret cutting Cartright. He is consistently good on ST. I think its time for a change. They don't trust him on offense.
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I wouldnt be shocked if thrash is cut because we have a couple young guys there. But I would put money on it that Cartwright is not cut....If thrash is cut than look for Jaison Williams or the other young guy from Nevada
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If Kelly and Thomas are healthy then Roydell Williams will be our 4th or 5th receiver, and I think given our offensive struggles last year that the team keeps six receivers in '09. Also, I firmly believe that Alridge OR Dorsey OR Mason will stick this year as a "change of pace" guy behind Portis/Betts. They are all quick and elusive, and I have to imagine one of the three at least will step up and give Zorny what he is looking for (adding a home-run threat to the backfield).

Our Defensive line...

DE- Carter, Orakpo, Daniels, Wynn
DT- Griffin, Montgomery, Haynesworth, Golston

...and secondary...

S- Horton, Landry, Moore, Doughty
CB- Hall, Smoot, Barnes, Rogers,


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ArlingtonSkinsFan wrote:If Kelly and Thomas are healthy then Roydell Williams will be our 4th or 5th receiver, and I think given our offensive struggles last year that the team keeps six receivers in '09. Also, I firmly believe that Alridge OR Dorsey OR Mason will stick this year as a "change of pace" guy behind Portis/Betts. They are all quick and elusive, and I have to imagine one of the three at least will step up and give Zorny what he is looking for (adding a home-run threat to the backfield).

Our Defensive line...

DE- Carter, Orakpo, Daniels, Wynn
DT- Griffin, Montgomery, Haynesworth, Golston

...and secondary...

S- Horton, Landry, Moore, Doughty
CB- Hall, Smoot, Barnes, Rogers,


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I would imagine we would keep 5 CBs. Probably add Tryon to that list and I can get on board.
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I think Westbrook beats out Tryon. Just a gut feeling I have.....

I believe Aldridge will be our change of pace guy and he'll be back there with Cartwright returning kicks and maybe punts by midseason. I saw some highlights of Aldridge doing returns in college and the kid is unbelievably fast
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skins2357 wrote:I think Westbrook beats out Tryon. Just a gut feeling I have.....

I believe Aldridge will be our change of pace guy and he'll be back there with Cartwright returning kicks and maybe punts by midseason. I saw some highlights of Aldridge doing returns in college and the kid is unbelievably fast


You think we're carrying 4 RBs this year? I think with the O & D line issues, we could better use that slot for one of those.
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IMO, I'd let both Betts and Rock go.

Bring in Mason and Aldridge. That might be a bit radical since both are unproven on Sunday but I think Mason is a better fit than Betts... But the way we run through backs we should keep Betts...
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i think doughty has demonstrated that he no longer deserves a roster spot
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Thrash is done. Time to cut him. He's outlasted his worth.
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Californiaskin wrote:i think doughty has demonstrated that he no longer deserves a roster spot


Doughty will have one as long as there's no one to take that spot. I don't think we've pbrought anyone in to compete with him for it, either.
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VetSkinsFan wrote:
Californiaskin wrote:i think doughty has demonstrated that he no longer deserves a roster spot


Doughty will have one as long as there's no one to take that spot. I don't think we've pbrought anyone in to compete with him for it, either.


I agree, no one to replace him - especially when they go with three safeties.

If the plan is to play Orakpo at RDE on third down, what happens to Carter? Does he play LDE or move in to tackle?
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ya- they could sign anybody non drafted college player would be better than doughty
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SnyderSucks wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:
Californiaskin wrote:i think doughty has demonstrated that he no longer deserves a roster spot


Doughty will have one as long as there's no one to take that spot. I don't think we've pbrought anyone in to compete with him for it, either.


I agree, no one to replace him - especially when they go with three safeties.

If the plan is to play Orakpo at RDE on third down, what happens to Carter? Does he play LDE or move in to tackle?

Orakpo plays LDE on third down and Carter stays at RDE.
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i have cartwight listed as a Fb on my depth chart. Portis betts and aldridge as the 3 rbs
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id convert a corner to safety.......i dont think doughty will will make the 53
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Whyall the hostility to Doughty. He played well in 07 when we had to win to make the playoffs. Last yr he had a back injury. If he's healthy, he will contribute on both ST & D.
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QB Campbell, Jason Collins, Todd Brennan, Colt

RB/FB Portis, Clinton Betts, Ladell Mason, Marcus Alridge, Anthony

TE Cooley, Chris Davis, Fred Yoder, Todd

T Samuels, Chris Heyer, Stephon Bridges, Jeremy

G Dockery, Derrick Rinehart, Chad

C Rabach, Casey Jansen, Jon Albright, Ethan

G Thomas, Randy Bridges, Jeremy

T Williams, Mike Jansen, Jon Heyer, Stephon

WR Moss, Santana Williams, Roydell Kelly, Malcolm

WR Thomas, Devin Randle El, Antwaan


LS Albright, Ethan

K Suisham, Shaun

P Smith, Hunter

KR/PR Alridge, Anthony Mason, Marcus


DE Carter, Andre Buzbee, Alex Wilson, Chris

DT Griffin, Cornelius Montgomery, Anthony

DT Haynesworth, Albert Golston, Kedric Alexander, Lorenzo

DE Orakpo, Brian Daniels, Phillip Jackson, Rob

OLB McIntosh, Rocky Thomas, Robert

MLB Fletcher, London Henson, Robert

OLB Blades, H.B. Orakpo, Brian Wilson, Chris

CB Hall, DeAngelo Barnes, Kevin Tryon, Justin

CB Rogers, Carlos Smoot, Fred

S Horton, Chris Doughty, Reed

S Landry, LaRon Moore, Kareem


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Mitchell, Marko WR -on final if they go with 6 wideouts
Williams, Eddie FB -might beat out Sellers on final 53
Clark, Devin OL -could make final 53 as a additional lineman
Westbrook, Byron CB -may beat out Tryon on final 53
Evans, Jonathan FB -if Williams makes final 53 in place of Sellers
Daniel, Chase QB
Williams, Edwin C
Glenn, Cody LB
Holmes, Lendy S
Eloi, Keith WR
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