OFFICIAL Washington Redskins Draft Day Discussion.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:23 pm

We can't have 4 QB's on the roster though. And if he's on the PS, he'll get picked up by someone.

funbuncher · Post by **funbuncher** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:25 pm

apparently, we are comfortable with our O-line. there are some good late round prospects. maybe we're waiting for them.

...my best attempt at being an apologist.

Gibbs4Life · Post by **Gibbs4Life** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:25 pm

This is a terrible pick with Jamon starring you in the face. OL depth, perhaps even a future starter, is far more important than a special teamer, who we wont develop and will likely cut in two years becaue we are the Redskins.

Could not agree more

brad7686 · Post by **brad7686** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:25 pm

This is the worst pick i've seen since Dallas Sartz.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:25 pm

BigSkinNig wrote:This is a terrible pick with Jamon starring you in the face. OL depth, perhaps even a future starter, is far more important than a special teamer, who we wont develop and will likely cut in two years becaue we are the Redskins.

How are you qualified to say who is NFL worthy and who is not? SEVEN NFL teams since the 3rd round passed on Meredith. Including his new team Green Bay. For you to say he's a future starter or even that he is a better pick than Cody Glenn is just plain silly.

funbuncher · Post by **funbuncher** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:26 pm

Duke Robinson is still out there. (not that we need help at O-line)

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:27 pm

You didn't know that you must be an NFL Scout to post here!!!!

brad7686 · Post by **brad7686** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:27 pm

Campbell should get ready to sign with someone else now.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:27 pm

funbuncher wrote:Duke Robinson is still out there. (not that we need help at O-line)

Gone

brad7686 · Post by **brad7686** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:30 pm

The fact that Vinny thinks Heyer can start just shows the unbelievable ego that idiot has. He thinks just because he signs someone off the street and says he's a starter that he actually can be a starter.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:30 pm

frankcal20 wrote:We can't have 4 QB's on the roster though. And if he's on the PS, he'll get picked up by someone.

Getting Brian Hoyer in the draft would be our only chance to try him out. You could do a lot worse in the 6th round. If he's in camp and IS a good fit for Zorn's offense we can either:

1.) Fake an injury to one of our QB's and put them on IR. (Not good since they cannot practice with the team.)

2.) Dump Todd Collins. (I am okay with this because I don't think he does anything for us in this offense or long term.)

3.) Dump Brennan (Not really okay with this since he looks like he has some promise... of course, that's all talk from Coach Zorn.)

4.) Trade Campbell (kind of a pre-emptive thing for me but this is a LONG shot since other teams may feel they are set at QB and the market isn't good.)

funbuncher · Post by **funbuncher** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:32 pm

Skinsfan55 wrote:
BigSkinNig wrote:This is a terrible pick with Jamon starring you in the face. OL depth, perhaps even a future starter, is far more important than a special teamer, who we wont develop and will likely cut in two years becaue we are the Redskins.

How are you qualified to say who is NFL worthy and who is not? SEVEN NFL teams since the 3rd round passed on Meredith. Including his new team Green Bay. For you to say he's a future starter or even that he is a better pick than Cody Glenn is just plain silly.

missing the point. not about Glenn's worthiness. it's about value. drafting Tom brady in the 1st round is technically stupid if you can get him in the 6th. drafting a guy that likely wasn't going to be drafted is not getting bang for your draft buck. it's compounded by the fact that it's at the expense of not addressing what is universally considered a top team need. OFFENSIVE LINE

brad7686 · Post by **brad7686** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:33 pm

funbuncher wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
BigSkinNig wrote:This is a terrible pick with Jamon starring you in the face. OL depth, perhaps even a future starter, is far more important than a special teamer, who we wont develop and will likely cut in two years becaue we are the Redskins.

How are you qualified to say who is NFL worthy and who is not? SEVEN NFL teams since the 3rd round passed on Meredith. Including his new team Green Bay. For you to say he's a future starter or even that he is a better pick than Cody Glenn is just plain silly.

missing the point. not about Glenn's worthiness. it's about value. drafting Tom brady in the 1st round is technically stupid if you can get him in the 6th. drafting a guy that likely wasn't going to be drafted is not getting bang for your draft buck. it's compounded by the fact that it's at the expense of not addressing what is universally considered a top team need. OFFENSIVE LINE

Don't waste your time. He doesn't get it.

funbuncher · Post by **funbuncher** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:35 pm

Duke Robinson gone with the pick right after Meredith.

I'm done watching this. It's a beautiful day outside. we should get lives.

PAPDOG67 · Post by **PAPDOG67** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:36 pm

Cadogan is still out there.I have to think we take him if by some small miracle he's still there in round 6.

Gibbs4Life · Post by **Gibbs4Life** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:36 pm

Cody Glenn are you kidding. NFL Network has him listed at RB and no vid. Was he even at the combine?

brad7686 · Post by **brad7686** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:37 pm

PAPDOG67 wrote:Cadogan is still out there.I have to think we take him if by some small miracle he's still there in round 6.

They'll probably take longsnapper, according to madden, albright is the worst player in the league lol

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:37 pm

welcome to the party.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:38 pm

funbuncher wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
BigSkinNig wrote:This is a terrible pick with Jamon starring you in the face. OL depth, perhaps even a future starter, is far more important than a special teamer, who we wont develop and will likely cut in two years becaue we are the Redskins.

How are you qualified to say who is NFL worthy and who is not? SEVEN NFL teams since the 3rd round passed on Meredith. Including his new team Green Bay. For you to say he's a future starter or even that he is a better pick than Cody Glenn is just plain silly.

missing the point. not about Glenn's worthiness. it's about value. drafting Tom brady in the 1st round is technically stupid if you can get him in the 6th. drafting a guy that likely wasn't going to be drafted is not getting bang for your draft buck. it's compounded by the fact that it's at the expense of not addressing what is universally considered a top team need. OFFENSIVE LINE

That is not at all what the first poster said. But to your point we don't know these team's draft boards, or the process. If he had gone undrafted who says he signs with us? We saw a guy we wanted in a position we thought we could get him and we pounced. The Redskins are actually working the phones talking with other teams in in their opinion this was their chance to get a guy they wanted. To assume he's a special teamer who will be cut is as ridiculous as assuming he's blossom into a superstar who will be a household name in two years.

funbunchfever · Post by **funbunchfever** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:40 pm

I'm rooting for Lydon Murtha

brad7686 · Post by **brad7686** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:41 pm

Skinsfan55 wrote:
funbuncher wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
BigSkinNig wrote:This is a terrible pick with Jamon starring you in the face. OL depth, perhaps even a future starter, is far more important than a special teamer, who we wont develop and will likely cut in two years becaue we are the Redskins.

How are you qualified to say who is NFL worthy and who is not? SEVEN NFL teams since the 3rd round passed on Meredith. Including his new team Green Bay. For you to say he's a future starter or even that he is a better pick than Cody Glenn is just plain silly.

missing the point. not about Glenn's worthiness. it's about value. drafting Tom brady in the 1st round is technically stupid if you can get him in the 6th. drafting a guy that likely wasn't going to be drafted is not getting bang for your draft buck. it's compounded by the fact that it's at the expense of not addressing what is universally considered a top team need. OFFENSIVE LINE

That is not at all what the first poster said. But to your point we don't know these team's draft boards, or the process. If he had gone undrafted who says he signs with us? We saw a guy we wanted in a position we thought we could get him and we pounced. The Redskins are actually working the phones talking with other teams in in their opinion this was their chance to get a guy they wanted. To assume he's a special teamer who will be cut is as ridiculous as assuming he's blossom into a superstar who will be a household name in two years.

There's no minor leagues in football. These project picks never work out. Especially ones that aren't special athletically anyway. Matt Jones, ARE, Brad Smith, and Pat White all succeeded because they excelled at another position and were special athletically.

brad7686 · Post by **brad7686** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:42 pm

funbunchfever wrote:I'm rooting for Lydon Murtha

He's big and fast, but soft as hell. Maybe buges could toughen him up.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:46 pm

brad7686 wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
funbuncher wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
BigSkinNig wrote:This is a terrible pick with Jamon starring you in the face. OL depth, perhaps even a future starter, is far more important than a special teamer, who we wont develop and will likely cut in two years becaue we are the Redskins.

How are you qualified to say who is NFL worthy and who is not? SEVEN NFL teams since the 3rd round passed on Meredith. Including his new team Green Bay. For you to say he's a future starter or even that he is a better pick than Cody Glenn is just plain silly.

missing the point. not about Glenn's worthiness. it's about value. drafting Tom brady in the 1st round is technically stupid if you can get him in the 6th. drafting a guy that likely wasn't going to be drafted is not getting bang for your draft buck. it's compounded by the fact that it's at the expense of not addressing what is universally considered a top team need. OFFENSIVE LINE

That is not at all what the first poster said. But to your point we don't know these team's draft boards, or the process. If he had gone undrafted who says he signs with us? We saw a guy we wanted in a position we thought we could get him and we pounced. The Redskins are actually working the phones talking with other teams in in their opinion this was their chance to get a guy they wanted. To assume he's a special teamer who will be cut is as ridiculous as assuming he's blossom into a superstar who will be a household name in two years.

There's no minor leagues in football. These project picks never work out. Especially ones that aren't special athletically anyway. Matt Jones, ARE, Brad Smith, and Pat White all succeeded because they excelled at another position and were special athletically.

Actually there are several leagues that develope players. Some still around, and some not. But just to name a few, Canadian Football League, Arena Football League, European Football Leage (No More) and lastly, the United Football League (starting 2009/2010). Feel free to speak with Jake Delhomme, Mike Sellers, Kurt Warner to name a few.

funbuncher · Post by **funbuncher** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:46 pm

If we're going to go looking for projects how bout some O-line?

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingr ... ollmer.php

Gibbs4Life · Post by **Gibbs4Life** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:46 pm

Iggles Pies and Gnats all have had 100 picks each today