Peria Jerry might be best defensive tackle in the draft

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Peria Jerry played his best games against the best teams. He played for Ole Miss in the SEC. The SEC is probably the best conference in the country.
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watch bj raji's video and it pales in comparison to jerry. Jerry is small for a dt in the pros .. even in the highlight video he was getting pushed back and out of the play a lot of the time. Now watch raji's and he's constantly getting a push into the middle of the line. and on the few occassions he gets stood up he has the awareness to keep his eye on the ball carrier and make the play
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CcHhDd wrote:watch bj raji's video and it pales in comparison to jerry. Jerry is small for a dt in the pros .. even in the highlight video he was getting pushed back and out of the play a lot of the time. Now watch raji's and he's constantly getting a push into the middle of the line. and on the few occassions he gets stood up he has the awareness to keep his eye on the ball carrier and make the play


He's listed at 6'2" 299 according to here. I think that leaves him room to bulk up/slim down for whatever role he plays in his NFL days. If he's getting pushed around, it's not b/c he's a lightweight.
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Well we could end the specualtion of us drafting a defensive tackle in the first round. :lol:
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HEROHAMO wrote:Well we could end the specualtion of us drafting a defensive tackle in the first round. :lol:


299# would be a nice DE :twisted:
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I really, really don't want Peria Jerry. He isn't that good. I was never that impressed by him as an NFL guy... college wise, he was great.
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Smithian wrote:I really, really don't want Peria Jerry. He isn't that good. I was never that impressed by him as an NFL guy... college wise, he was great.

He has never been a NFL guy :hmm:
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What I mean is I have never thought "NFL prospect" when watching him.
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I'm a Peria Jerry believer. I think he could be the best talent we have a shot at #13. BUT, I don't know how wise we'd be to pick him when Snyder backed the team into a desperate corner during free agency. The offense was the biggest concern and he spent almost all of his cap space on Haynesworth and Hall. We HAVE to pick offense at #13, which means we may not get the most value for our pick.

If we had passed on Haynesworth, then having a guy like Peria Jerry fall to us at 13 would have been a nice bonus. But with all the money tied up in Haynesworth, Griffin, Monty and Golston, drafting Jerry would be stupid unless there was a trade partner for one of our existing DT's. Even then it would leave too many holes elsewhere. This is what happens when you build through free agency instead of the draft. You end up with a top heavy roster. The few draft picks you have must be used for certain holes, which means you don't get to take advantage of many gems who fall to your draft slot.
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I don't think that we're in as bad a shape as you allude to.We're slated something like $8-10m still, which isn't great, but is probably plenty to sign our picks with and maybe even dabble in FA if we need to due to injuries.
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VetSkinsFan wrote:I don't think that we're in as bad a shape as you allude to.We're slated something like $8-10m still, which isn't great, but is probably plenty to sign our picks with and maybe even dabble in FA if we need to due to injuries.


I'm not talking about the salary cap specifically. I am talking about getting max value for your draft picks and addressing the teams greatest needs. I am not saying it is the end of the world, but once again, we will be missing some opportunities in the draft because we have some glaring needs that MUST be addressed in the draft. (RT, OLB, LE, OL depth in general) If we draft any other position at 13, it will be a mistake. Which is a shame since most of the successful NFL franchises (Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Giants) don't go into the draft with glaring needs and they actually can sometimes use that leverage to make lesser run teams (Skins, Raiders, 49ers, Lions) pay more to get the players they MUST have. I hope we aren't forced into a trade up situation to get a player that makes sense for us.
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fleetus wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:I don't think that we're in as bad a shape as you allude to.We're slated something like $8-10m still, which isn't great, but is probably plenty to sign our picks with and maybe even dabble in FA if we need to due to injuries.


I'm not talking about the salary cap specifically. I am talking about getting max value for your draft picks and addressing the teams greatest needs. I am not saying it is the end of the world, but once again, we will be missing some opportunities in the draft because we have some glaring needs that MUST be addressed in the draft. (RT, OLB, LE, OL depth in general) If we draft any other position at 13, it will be a mistake. Which is a shame since most of the successful NFL franchises (Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Giants) don't go into the draft with glaring needs and they actually can sometimes use that leverage to make lesser run teams (Skins, Raiders, 49ers, Lions) pay more to get the players they MUST have. I hope we aren't forced into a trade up situation to get a player that makes sense for us.


I can agree with everything you said. I also don't think we'll trade up considering we only have 4 picks as it is.
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fleetus wrote:I am not saying it is the end of the world, but once again, we will be missing some opportunities in the draft because we have some glaring needs that MUST be addressed in the draft. (RT, OLB, LE, OL depth in general) If we draft any other position at 13, it will be a mistake. Which is a shame since most of the successful NFL franchises (Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Giants) don't go into the draft with glaring needs and they actually can sometimes use that leverage to make lesser run teams (Skins, Raiders, 49ers, Lions) pay more to get the players they MUST have. I hope we aren't forced into a trade up situation to get a player that makes sense for us.


That's kind of looking through things with rose-colored glasses, fleetus.

Every team goes into the NFL draft with needs. No team is perfect.

The Patriots have a bad need at inside linebacker, as they traded Vrabel away (and have no one to replace him). They also need a replacement for Bruschi, who is 36, and has declined in play the last few years. They also have needs at Corner; although they signed Shawn Springs and Leigh Bodden, they have chumps at the position otherwise (Ellis Hobbs and Terrence Wheatley are the best of the group, and they're pretty poor). And we well know how much you can count on Springs to survive an entire season as a starter.

The Giants have a HUGE hole at WR, as both Toomer and Burress aren't there. They have a group of guys who would be good #2s, but no #1 WR on the team. The Giants could also use a SLB, as they have Boley and Pierce at WLB and MLB, but no real good option at SLB. They also could use a real TE, as Kevin Boss isn't much of a receiving option.

The Steelers have a massive, gaping hole at OL. If it wasn't for Big Ben's incredible escapability, that offense would have gone nowhere. The Steelers OL, from top to bottom, is one of the worst in the NFL...without question. They're actually in worse shape than we are in that respect. According to this site they need 2 new guards and a new center as "urgent needs" and a ROT as a "strong" need.

Finally, the Colts have holes at WR3 (assuming Wayne is the WR1, and Gonzalez is the WR2), DT (as they don't have run stuffers), and LG.

Every team ends the season with holes. And every team drafts for need. Where we fail is that we just don't have enough picks, year in and year out, to fill all of those needs. While the Patriots may need 2 linebackers, they have a bajillion picks to get those 2 starters. Or they can go for a talent they like in the 1st round, knowing they can snag a decent ILB in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. We have the same number of holes as other teams...but not enough picks to fill them.

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fleetus wrote:I am not saying it is the end of the world, but once again, we will be missing some opportunities in the draft because we have some glaring needs that MUST be addressed in the draft. (RT, OLB, LE, OL depth in general) If we draft any other position at 13, it will be a mistake. Which is a shame since most of the successful NFL franchises (Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Giants) don't go into the draft with glaring needs and they actually can sometimes use that leverage to make lesser run teams (Skins, Raiders, 49ers, Lions) pay more to get the players they MUST have. I hope we aren't forced into a trade up situation to get a player that makes sense for us.


That's kind of looking through things with rose-colored glasses, fleetus.

Every team goes into the NFL draft with needs. No team is perfect.

The Patriots have a bad need at inside linebacker, as they traded Vrabel away (and have no one to replace him). They also need a replacement for Bruschi, who is 36, and has declined in play the last few years. They also have needs at Corner; although they signed Shawn Springs and Leigh Bodden, they have chumps at the position otherwise (Ellis Hobbs and Terrence Wheatley are the best of the group, and they're pretty poor). And we well know how much you can count on Springs to survive an entire season as a starter.

The Giants have a HUGE hole at WR, as both Toomer and Burress aren't there. They have a group of guys who would be good #2s, but no #1 WR on the team. The Giants could also use a SLB, as they have Boley and Pierce at WLB and MLB, but no real good option at SLB. They also could use a real TE, as Kevin Boss isn't much of a receiving option.

The Steelers have a massive, gaping hole at OL. If it wasn't for Big Ben's incredible escapability, that offense would have gone nowhere. The Steelers OL, from top to bottom, is one of the worst in the NFL...without question. They're actually in worse shape than we are in that respect. According to this site they need 2 new guards and a new center as "urgent needs" and a ROT as a "strong" need.

Finally, the Colts have holes at WR3 (assuming Wayne is the WR1, and Gonzalez is the WR2), DT (as they don't have run stuffers), and LG.

Every team ends the season with holes. And every team drafts for need. Where we fail is that we just don't have enough picks, year in and year out, to fill all of those needs. While the Patriots may need 2 linebackers, they have a bajillion picks to get those 2 starters. Or they can go for a talent they like in the 1st round, knowing they can snag a decent ILB in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. We have the same number of holes as other teams...but not enough picks to fill them.

No more trading draft picks. NO MORE.


You're over simplifying and cherry picking parts of the whole story. Maybe not intentionally, but still. The Patriots and Giants, that you say have needs, have way more than 4 picks!!! In fact, the Patriots have:

one 1st round pick
three 2nd rounders
two 3rd rounders
one 4th
two 5th
two 6th
one 7th
[b]for a total of 12 picks!!! :shock:

The Giants have:

one 1st round pick
two 2nd rounders
two 3rd
a 4th
two 5th
one 6th
one 7th
for a total of 10 picks!!! We have 5 picks, only 2 in the first 3 rounds. AND there is no way you'll get me to believe the needs of the Giants and PAtriots are as dire as the Redskins. So thank you for helping to illustrate my point further. As usual, the Skins are not dealing from a position of leverage, so we either have to hope the right player lands in our lap but most likely we will get lesser value for the few picks we have and there will be more pressure place on those rookies to perform.
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fleetus wrote:
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fleetus wrote:I am not saying it is the end of the world, but once again, we will be missing some opportunities in the draft because we have some glaring needs that MUST be addressed in the draft. (RT, OLB, LE, OL depth in general) If we draft any other position at 13, it will be a mistake. Which is a shame since most of the successful NFL franchises (Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Giants) don't go into the draft with glaring needs and they actually can sometimes use that leverage to make lesser run teams (Skins, Raiders, 49ers, Lions) pay more to get the players they MUST have. I hope we aren't forced into a trade up situation to get a player that makes sense for us.


That's kind of looking through things with rose-colored glasses, fleetus.

Every team goes into the NFL draft with needs. No team is perfect.

The Patriots have a bad need at inside linebacker, as they traded Vrabel away (and have no one to replace him). They also need a replacement for Bruschi, who is 36, and has declined in play the last few years. They also have needs at Corner; although they signed Shawn Springs and Leigh Bodden, they have chumps at the position otherwise (Ellis Hobbs and Terrence Wheatley are the best of the group, and they're pretty poor). And we well know how much you can count on Springs to survive an entire season as a starter.

The Giants have a HUGE hole at WR, as both Toomer and Burress aren't there. They have a group of guys who would be good #2s, but no #1 WR on the team. The Giants could also use a SLB, as they have Boley and Pierce at WLB and MLB, but no real good option at SLB. They also could use a real TE, as Kevin Boss isn't much of a receiving option.

The Steelers have a massive, gaping hole at OL. If it wasn't for Big Ben's incredible escapability, that offense would have gone nowhere. The Steelers OL, from top to bottom, is one of the worst in the NFL...without question. They're actually in worse shape than we are in that respect. According to this site they need 2 new guards and a new center as "urgent needs" and a ROT as a "strong" need.

Finally, the Colts have holes at WR3 (assuming Wayne is the WR1, and Gonzalez is the WR2), DT (as they don't have run stuffers), and LG.

Every team ends the season with holes. And every team drafts for need. Where we fail is that we just don't have enough picks, year in and year out, to fill all of those needs. While the Patriots may need 2 linebackers, they have a bajillion picks to get those 2 starters. Or they can go for a talent they like in the 1st round, knowing they can snag a decent ILB in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. We have the same number of holes as other teams...but not enough picks to fill them.

No more trading draft picks. NO MORE.


You're over simplifying and cherry picking parts of the whole story. Maybe not intentionally, but still. The Patriots and Giants, that you say have needs, have way more than 4 picks!!! In fact, the Patriots have:

one 1st round pick
three 2nd rounders
two 3rd rounders
one 4th
two 5th
two 6th
one 7th
for a total of 12 picks!!! :shock:

The Giants have:

one 1st round pick
two 2nd rounders
two 3rd
a 4th
two 5th
one 6th
one 7th
for a total of 10 picks!!! We have 5 picks, only 2 in the first 3 rounds. AND there is no way you'll get me to believe the needs of the Giants and PAtriots are as dire as the Redskins. So thank you for helping to illustrate my point further. As usual, the Skins are not dealing from a position of leverage, so we either have to hope the right player lands in our lap but most likely we will get lesser value for the few picks we have and there will be more pressure place on those rookies to perform.

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