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I've never found a group of soldiers dealing with this desolation, and I served under Dubya. No matter what comes from above, you pull together and you make the best of it. I think you've been reading too many war novels or where ever you get this erroneous information from

Vet while I agree in principle with you...have you seen the suicide numbers for this war...I think it's the most important untold story of the war. That being said I have grown to hate the comparison between football and the military. I would say that the morale of the team isn’t that bad but I thought RIC was referring to the fans and I can’t ever remember (I wasn’t around for the 60’s) the fans being as cynical as they are now. We were spoiled during the Gibbs year and while I have a great appreciation for how difficult it is to achieve what he did…I still can’t understand some of the things DS does.
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DEHog wrote:I can’t ever remember (I wasn’t around for the 60’s) the fans being as cynical as they are now. We were spoiled during the Gibbs year and while I have a great appreciation for how difficult it is to achieve what he did…I still can’t understand some of the things DS does.


Seriously, can't you recall the mid 90's under John Kent Cooke and Norv Turner? We had NO hope things would ever get better under those two. Zero.
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DEHog wrote:I can’t ever remember (I wasn’t around for the 60’s) the fans being as cynical as they are now. We were spoiled during the Gibbs year and while I have a great appreciation for how difficult it is to achieve what he did…I still can’t understand some of the things DS does.


Seriously, can't you recall the mid 90's under John Kent Cooke and Norv Turner? We had NO hope things would ever get better under those two. Zero.


Yea but not like this as I said people are cynical now about the Skins. I don't remember people turning in their season tickets at RFK.
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DEHog wrote:I still can’t understand some of the things DS does.


Thank you for admitting that. It's unfortunate that when some folks don't understand something, they'll simply discredit it altogether. That's not directly aimed at you, DEHog, but just in general.

Science is a perfect example. Folks can't comprehend the science, public education does very little to increase and expand the education of science, and the end conclusion, for some, is to just discredit the science altogether.

It helps them sleep better at night.

My father is a PhD physicist and I've learned a lot about physics and science over the years. You try to talk to others about it, and when some don't understand it or can't speak intelligently about it, they'll ultimately discredit the science based on their own, unrecognized, ignorance.

This isn't directed at you DEHog, as I have seen you acknowledge certain things and you aren't 100% negative all the time, but my father taught me that an ignorant man is far too ignorant to recognize his own ignorance. Some should think about that.

Jason La Canfora and the Post is another perfect example. He predicted cap hell, and based on his lack of knowledge regarding the Skins approach to contracts and managing the cap, also predicted the Skins wouldn't be able to afford to sign any free agents. He had a field day bashing the Skins regarding their "alleged" cap hell. Some did the same thing here, and prematurely concluded that Haynesworth's contract would stop them from signing positions of need, depth, and an inability to re-sign their own players. Yet a week later, they've signed Haynesworth, Dockery, Hall, Dirk Johnson, Fincher and Doughty and are still about $8 million under the cap looking to possibly sign more.

Point being, don't always knock it just because you don't understand it. NO ONE here has argued that Snyder hasn't made mistakes in the past or against the fact that the Skins have been mediocre, with just two playoff appearances in the past decade. But lumping every decision into the same category and refusing to acknowledge things they fail to comprehend is just... ... ignorant.
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SkinsFreak wrote:... Point being, don't always knock it just because you don't understand it. NO ONE here has argued that Snyder hasn't made mistakes in the past or against the fact that the Skins have been mediocre, with just two playoff appearances in the past decade. But lumping every decision into the same category and refusing to acknowledge things they fail to comprehend is just... ... ignorant.

Initially I thought the "ignorant" comment was about how some of us perceive Snyder but then I looked more closely and saw that you noted "NO ONE here has argued that Snyder hasn't made mistakes in the past or against the fact that the Skins have been mediocre, with just two playoff appearances in the past decade."

Thank you - That is it in a nutshell :wink:

I have been a Snyder supporter for a long while. In the early years I felt that he most likely just did not get good advice and then recently he and Cerrato seemed to have mended their ways and seemed to understand that this team just needs too many areas addressed in order to improve.

Then came the 2009 opening of free agency ...... :shock:

I agree with you and RiC - We have been mediocre under Snyder and the Haynesworth signing just showed me that we are really missing a good football person trying to get our team back in shape.

Snyder is a businessman and depite his eagerness to help Cerrato make our team better we need a knowlegeable NFL person - somebody really good - that will make the decisions and we need Snyder to support that man and re-do this team.
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
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I've never found a group of soldiers dealing with this desolation, and I served under Dubya. No matter what comes from above, you pull together and you make the best of it. I think you've been reading too many war novels or where ever you get this erroneous information from

Vet while I agree in principle with you...have you seen the suicide numbers for this war...I think it's the most important untold story of the war. That being said I have grown to hate the comparison between football and the military. I would say that the morale of the team isn’t that bad but I thought RIC was referring to the fans and I can’t ever remember (I wasn’t around for the 60’s) the fans being as cynical as they are now. We were spoiled during the Gibbs year and while I have a great appreciation for how difficult it is to achieve what he did…I still can’t understand some of the things DS does.


I don't think the analogy of Leadership/troops is accurate to Danny/fans, but I've been known to miss points before.

If it's so bad and there's no hope under current leadership, which directly affects the output of the skins, then why hang around? Why keep yourself (in general, no one specific) in misery when, in an individual's honest opinion, there's no hope for improvement with the current circumstances? Honestly, I think some people enjoy being negative and miserable and they actually enjoy the current state of the skins. Some people enjoy whining being constantly derogatory. To each their own.

DE, I, too, dislike the comparison to war, so I am not going to even continue that portion of your post. I hope you understand.

And I agree, I don't think there's a soul on this board, unless Danny is here himself, that can say that they've understood and supported all of Danny's decisions.

As for the fans, that could be attributed to a number of things. Hell, I've noticed changes in society in general that could arguably be related to the current mindet of our #1 team's fans.
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I've never found a group of soldiers dealing with this desolation, and I served under Dubya. No matter what comes from above, you pull together and you make the best of it. I think you've been reading too many war novels or where ever you get this erroneous information from

Vet while I agree in principle with you...have you seen the suicide numbers for this war...I think it's the most important untold story of the war. That being said I have grown to hate the comparison between football and the military. I would say that the morale of the team isn’t that bad but I thought RIC was referring to the fans and I can’t ever remember (I wasn’t around for the 60’s) the fans being as cynical as they are now. We were spoiled during the Gibbs year and while I have a great appreciation for how difficult it is to achieve what he did…I still can’t understand some of the things DS does.


I don't think the analogy of Leadership/troops is accurate to Danny/fans, but I've been known to miss points before.

If it's so bad and there's no hope under current leadership, which directly affects the output of the skins, then why hang around? Why keep yourself (in general, no one specific) in misery when, in an individual's honest opinion, there's no hope for improvement with the current circumstances? Honestly, I think some people enjoy being negative and miserable and they actually enjoy the current state of the skins. Some people enjoy whining being constantly derogatory. To each their own.

DE, I, too, dislike the comparison to war, so I am not going to even continue that portion of your post. I hope you understand.

And I agree, I don't think there's a soul on this board, unless Danny is here himself, that can say that they've understood and supported all of Danny's decisions.

As for the fans, that could be attributed to a number of things. Hell, I've noticed changes in society in general that could arguably be related to the current mindet of our #1 team's fans.


Well just for the record...I have always stated that I pay for season tickets to see 10 football games...DS has yet to renege on that. Do I want them to win; of course. I guess that's why I want to see the organization (and feel it can be) run better. But in no way shape or form does it diminish my experiences as a fan. Redskins’ games have been a source of great joy for my son and I, and we have met some wonderful people along the way!!
I agree (and respect) with some of what RIC says and the way he articulates them. He has an absolute right to be here and to view his opinions. I hope he doesn’t leave, the conversation is much better with than without him.
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SkinsFreak wrote:
DEHog wrote:I still can’t understand some of the things DS does.


Thank you for admitting that. It's unfortunate that when some folks don't understand something, they'll simply discredit it altogether. That's not directly aimed at you, DEHog, but just in general.

Science is a perfect example. Folks can't comprehend the science, public education does very little to increase and expand the education of science, and the end conclusion, for some, is to just discredit the science altogether.

It helps them sleep better at night.

My father is a PhD physicist and I've learned a lot about physics and science over the years. You try to talk to others about it, and when some don't understand it or can't speak intelligently about it, they'll ultimately discredit the science based on their own, unrecognized, ignorance.

This isn't directed at you DEHog, as I have seen you acknowledge certain things and you aren't 100% negative all the time, but my father taught me that an ignorant man is far too ignorant to recognize his own ignorance. Some should think about that.

Jason La Canfora and the Post is another perfect example. He predicted cap hell, and based on his lack of knowledge regarding the Skins approach to contracts and managing the cap, also predicted the Skins wouldn't be able to afford to sign any free agents. He had a field day bashing the Skins regarding their "alleged" cap hell. Some did the same thing here, and prematurely concluded that Haynesworth's contract would stop them from signing positions of need, depth, and an inability to re-sign their own players. Yet a week later, they've signed Haynesworth, Dockery, Hall, Dirk Johnson, Fincher and Doughty and are still about $8 million under the cap looking to possibly sign more.

Point being, don't always knock it just because you don't understand it. NO ONE here has argued that Snyder hasn't made mistakes in the past or against the fact that the Skins have been mediocre, with just two playoff appearances in the past decade. But lumping every decision into the same category and refusing to acknowledge things they fail to comprehend is just... ... ignorant.


SF I get it…and you pretty much captured what I meant by that comment. I’d add that included in that comment are things I know and have heard from some very reliable sources about DS. Some of it good and some of it bad, from both in and out of football. I get a sense from watching him interact with the players that they genuinely like him. I wish the we has fans could see that side of DS…but when he brought the team he made some mistakes that the media will never let him forget so we see a very scripted DS when he does appear.
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From what I understand and far be it for me to aticulate his position exactly - I understand that RiC is just taking a 'sabbatical' - that being said I look forward to seeing him back here as the season gets a little closer :wink:



Back to Fat Albert - I have no problem with Snyder as the owner or the team and the FO signing players who they think might help the team - I think it has been obvious that the salary cap 'hell" as predicted by all the Snyder detractors is a bit more than a big myth - my only problem with this FO and the way that Snyder and Cerrato have 'managed' the structure and make-up of the team is that the way they used to "buy" players and THE trophy has resulted in a mediocre team. I thought they were getting away from this.

My only problem with the Fat Albert signing is that I do not think it was made for the right reasons - this seems to be another effort at making the "big splash" and it also includes a lot of risk - this guy has a health concern and we have paid a premium which includes a guaranteed figure for someone that has a lot of issues about playing a full season.

I am not sure that a good NFL guy would have made that move - that is all Yawn
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
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My problem with the signing of big name FA’s is…it's always a risk bringing in somebody else’s Pro Bowl FA...I think one of the hardest thing to do is to try and speculate whether a player will be good in your system vs. good in their current system...see Dana Stubblefield. I want to draft and develop our own players...these type of contracts should be reserved for player who are playing at a Pro Bowl level in our system! That what successful teams do.
When you have to go out and “buy’ someone else’s Pro Bowlers it just screams…we can’t do it ourselves!! Look at team like N.E., Indy, Philly and Pitt the FA they bring in are complimentary players who fill voids and add depth on good teams and they are put in positions to succeed. We take a step in the right direction by staying low-key in FA and drafting 10 players…only to trade away two picks for JT and than go back out to sign a high price FA…Say what you will about the numbers but will never see 4 great years of production from AH…Tennessee got that! For those of you who keep saying who would you have gotten? Here’s an idea…just because the cap is x amount of millions does that mean we have to spend it?? I loved to see some guy playing for a contract instead of playing to live up to a contract!!
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VetSkinsFan wrote:Stop with facts and logic...it has no place here. Nothing but emotion and asumptions are allowed.

I have been going over the thread again to find out if I missed anything which could have assisted me to allow you to understand -MY- perspective.

The fundamental premise of my view is that from flawed leadership follow flawed results. As a Vet, I would have thought that you accept the fact that there would be nothing more demoralising than go into battle with flawed leadership and not much of a plan. Why is it so strange then that after repeated failures the morale of the troops is so desolate that -ALL- confidence in the leadership has been lost?

Would there be an element of frustration, emotion and anger based on the RECORD? Sure, there would be. Is it justified? GREATLY.

I guess I will have to refrain from saying I TOLD YOU SO when MEDIOCRITY arrives once again next season.


I've never found a group of soldiers dealing with this desolation, and I served under Dubya. No matter what comes from above, you pull together and you make the best of it. I think you've been reading too many war novels or where ever you get this erroneous information from.

Additionally, if the leadership provided such desolate circumstances, why do players want to come here? If it's as desolate as you protray, then that should usurp greed, shouldn't it? I'm sure Haynesworth could have gotten a comparable contract somewhere else, but he chose here, among the desolate troops.

I've been reading a little this off-season, and I haven't seen where the skins are expressing any "element of frustration, emotion and anger based on the RECORD." I haven't seen where guys are asking publicly to be traded, shown frustration, or threatening to sit out. Oh yeah, Jason Taylor, the primadonna who wasn't played to his strengths, started only 1/2 a year, and didn't earn his $$$ last year didn't want to work out b/c he wanted to 'spend more time with his family.' If he can't conform to the skins requests and workout regimen, then we don't need him anyway...it's not like he was a standout last year.

Finally, I think you should place a sticky on your monitor to remind you of this conversation. Don't think I've seen myself post that the skins are going anywhere beyond mediocrity anywhere lately, so I don't know where your "I told you so!" shenanigans are going to apply to me in the foreseeable future.

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Well I served under H.W. and Clinton and there was definitely a total mood change when Clinton started slinging around legislation. and the Clinton years should have been much easier after Desert Storm, but they weren't. So, I understand what he's trying to say. and yes, you'd have to have blinders on if you didn't at least consider the effect that Snyder's management has had on the morale. How can a fan trust that this thing is going to be turned around if there hasn't been any indication that a football savvy expert is making the decisions? :shock:

There was some hope when Gibbs came back. and he almost turned it around. he certainly laid a better foundation than what Snyder has done during the years both before and after Gibbs. But with this latest fantasy football foray into free agency, my dounts have returned. It seems Snyder may have reverted to his old pre-Gibbs ways that we all were sick of 5 years ago.
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fleetus wrote: But with this latest fantasy football foray into free agency, my dounts have returned. It seems Snyder may have reverted to his old pre-Gibbs ways that we all were sick of 5 years ago.


:hmm: They signed two linemen (one offense and one defense), and a punter. Everybody else was here last year.

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DEHog wrote:Look at team like N.E., Indy, Philly and Pitt the FA they bring in are complimentary players who fill voids and add depth


You mean depth guys like Asante Samuel (huge contract for a Corner), or Adalius Thomas (highest FA contract that year)?
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PulpExposure wrote:
DEHog wrote:Look at team like N.E., Indy, Philly and Pitt the FA they bring in are complimentary players who fill voids and add depth


You mean depth guys like Asante Samuel (huge contract for a Corner), or Adalius Thomas (highest FA contract that year)?


Why did you stop there :?:
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PulpExposure wrote:
DEHog wrote:Look at team like N.E., Indy, Philly and Pitt the FA they bring in are complimentary players who fill voids and add depth


You mean depth guys like Asante Samuel (huge contract for a Corner), or Adalius Thomas (highest FA contract that year)?


Or maybe he is talking about guys like Joey Galloway (14th season), Shawn Springs (12th season), or Fred Taylor (11th season)...
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DEHog wrote:
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DEHog wrote:Look at team like N.E., Indy, Philly and Pitt the FA they bring in are complimentary players who fill voids and add depth


You mean depth guys like Asante Samuel (huge contract for a Corner), or Adalius Thomas (highest FA contract that year)?


Why did you stop there :?:


Because those were the most expensive FA signings for each respective year?
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Deadskins wrote:A business is not all they are. They are a source of civic, and in some cases, ethnic pride. RiC didn't say overcharging, he said overpriced, as in, "they don't perform up to their billing." I'm not taking either side here, BTW, I'm just trying to clear things up for you.

I'm not sure how repeating RiC's assertion clears anything up, but thanks for trying. You say they are not just a business, they are a bunch of other stuff that you and RiC see as being dichotomous to being a business and I see as being one and the same.
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Irn-Bru wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:OK, so let me put it this way on water. If someone doesn't know that water bottles aren't allowed going into sports stadiums they aren't paying attention. If someone doesn't know water bottles cost like a dime at home if bought in bulk and several dollars at stadiums they aren't paying attention. If someone didn't account for that in spending hundreds of dollars to go to a game, tens more parking and that it was going to be in the 90s, they are clueless. And if it's a financial burden to them they shouldn't be spending that much money for a luxury in the first place.

The 'water bottle incident' didn't happen at a normal game. It was a scrimmage that was taking place on 'Fan Appreciation Day.'


Kaz wrote:So did I address your point now (address, agreement is your choice) or am I still missing it?

This specific one, no. But it does seem like you aren't familiar with the story (I assumed you were) so I understand why this point didn't register initially, or perhaps even now.

All I can say is... :-({|=

Ohhh, Danny took water on fan appreciation day costing fans a few bucks. Clearly it's about MONEY with the WHINERS as well as Danny. This is such a nit. I have no more sympathy for Danny then the whiners. I will grant Danny this, Danny is doing NOTHING to improve his reputation in this regard, and he's not whining about the criticism he's getting for it. For him and the whiners it's about $$$$. The whiners while saying it's about Danny's "greed" :roll: conveniently want him to prove his lack of same by putting money in their own wallets. And we both know if he does that their greedy Dan song will be no less resound.

I get your point in that it would have been a nice gesture to not take water on a hot day on fan appreciation day. I do not get the complete lack of perspective over such a tiny issue, or your own failure to grasp that it's a MONEY issue for the whiners as well. If there are REAL issues, those should be the focus and not the microscopic nits like this. The only one I've seen raise a potential real issue is DEHog with the seating upgrades. I only say potential because it made sense, I just don't have enough personal knowledge of both sides of the story to be stronger. But all this whining about water and jerseys and stuff is pathetic.
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KazooSkinsFan wrote:So if you look at the third quote in your chain, all it says is there is other unnamed stuff. I'm not seeing how I unreasonably ignore unnamed issues in the fourth quote.

You can ignore the unnamed stuff but it doesn't justify ignoring the named stuff

We're going in circles on this one. I'm saying reading the thread I DID address the named stuff and asked what you saw a hadn't addressed. You came back with I was ignoring named stuff. Same question, NAME it.
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Redskin in Canada wrote:What Vet is saying is that Snyder is not taking an opinion poll, he's looking at his bottom line and so long as you willingly contribute to that bottom line, you essentially endorse what he does. Danny says "well, ticket sales/jersey sales/etc. are up, ipso facto the people purchasing them support the decisions I have made." You can go to a Redskins game and tell everyone you can't stand Dan Snyder but all Snyder knows is: you bought the ticket.

This is essentially true, RiC, but you make it too personal. He's not going to see buying seats as validation or not of his individual decisions and he's not going to relate them to approval by the specific people who bought them, but that the overall organization he is leading is getting the maximum profit.

You also need to separate tickets from other items. With tickets, if someone else will buy them, you may feel better about not buying them but you're sending no message at all by not buying them.

With things like Jerseys, they are priced to maximize profit. Basically as you raise prices sales fall and you price to charge as much as you can before reduced sales cost you more then increased prices make you. So yes, you are at least one less sale in that equation.

But here's what's wrong with your general argument. Danny doesn't make money by focusing on the outliers, he makes money by focusing on the main market. DC is a city with lots of money, it's largely recession proof because of government. People who live there just pay and they can afford it. Arguing that Danny should satisfy the fringe people who want the product but don't like what it costs and then turn abound and buy it anyway when most of his base just pay it and are fine with it may get you lots of agreement within the fringe but no leverage with The Man making the decisions.

None of this makes Danny a good owner. But it doesn't make him "greedy" either.
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