Haynesworth Is a Redskin!!!

hector234 · Post by **hector234** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:25 am

Since Canty is out of the picture, I guess this means Taylor will return

Smithian · Post by **Smithian** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:38 am

Guys, trust me, like I said last night, as much as they're maligned, our front office is very smart when it comes to the cap. We might end this offseason with a cap room balance about 0.00, but we'll sign the guys we need. Snyder pays a lot of people a lot of money to make cap miracles happen.

sch1977 · Post by **sch1977** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:50 am

We can second guess all we like, but Haynesworth is here now and our team is instantly better on the D-Line! Is he WORTH that much money? Who knows? He is a skin now and I for one am glad he is here. The goal is for us to become a playoff team year in and year out, and get a couple of rings if we can right? We needed D-line help, and we got the best out there! HTTR

Gibbs4Life · Post by **Gibbs4Life** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:34 am

YES!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! YESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:39 am

John Clayton reported there were 6 teams negotiating to land Haynesworth, so there was a market for the guy. Sal Paolantonio thinks it's a great signing, as it now puts the rest of the NFC East on notice that they better hope their o-lines are capable to deal with AH twice a year. Offensive coordinators will now have to game plan for him, and while they can simply not throw at a top rated corner, they can't avoid a stud DT in the middle. The guys on the NFLN said regarding the buyer beware concerns, the Redskins would be the best fit for him, as Blache was a d-line coach, is a tough coach and would know how to keep AH in line. And you'll now AH will never get the full $100 M.

We re-signed Hall, and in my pinion, that was our biggest priority. So long as they're able to manage the cap, I don't really have a problem with this signing. It instantly makes our defense that much better. AH playing at half-speed is still better than our 2nd tier guys playing at full speed. Just about everyone said we needed a stud DT in the middle and now you've got it.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:42 am

Hayne + Griff sounds good. We just need them to be healthy.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:47 am

Looks like our front office continues to foolishly think that we are only one or two pieces away. They'll learn eventually. I'm a big Haynesworth fan and glad to have him but this isn't how you build a franchise.

Narc · Post by **Narc** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:48 am

Somewhere in Dallas, Andre Gurode is adding a few more straps to his helmet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwxMRPTsYeo

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:52 am

CanesSkins26 wrote:Looks like our front office continues to foolishly think that we are only one or two pieces away. They'll learn eventually. I'm a big Haynesworth fan and glad to have him but this isn't how you build a franchise.

I don't buy that nonsense. Should they rely on only 4 draft picks and sign no free agents? How else can you upgrade your team? Does every team that signs a few free agents think they're one or two players away?

Or is it about trying to get your team and your coaches the best components available to put them in a better position to be successful? And if I remember correctly, you have been one of the guys screaming for a DT this past year. :!:

PMG12569 · Post by **PMG12569** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:59 am

SkinsFreak wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:Looks like our front office continues to foolishly think that we are only one or two pieces away. They'll learn eventually. I'm a big Haynesworth fan and glad to have him but this isn't how you build a franchise.

I don't buy that nonsense. Should they rely on only 4 draft picks and sign no free agents? How else can you upgrade your team? Does every team that signs a few free agents think they're one or two players away?

Or is it about trying to get your team and your coaches the best components available to put them in a better position to be successful? And if I remember correctly, you have been one of the guys screaming for a DT this past year.

Well said. I was thinking the same thing. Hall is young and Haynesworth is 28 which is solid for a DT both in their prime. That does not mean that we are only two pieces away it just means that we are building a team. We just put a few pillars to our foundation with 7 picks next year 4 this year and we had 10 last year so I mean just keep building.

Bob 0119 · Post by **Bob 0119** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:00 am

I'm not happy with this signing.

Woo-hoo! We spent $100 million dollars so now we might move up from being the fourth rated defense to the third rated defense!

Now we'll lose games by scores of 13-7 instead of 17-7!

$\:D/$

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:00 am

SkinsFreak wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:Looks like our front office continues to foolishly think that we are only one or two pieces away. They'll learn eventually. I'm a big Haynesworth fan and glad to have him but this isn't how you build a franchise.

I don't buy that nonsense. Should they rely on only 4 draft picks and sign no free agents? How else can you upgrade your team? Does every team that signs a few free agents think they're one or two players away?

Or is it about trying to get your team and your coaches the best components available to put them in a better position to be successful? And if I remember correctly, you have been one of the guys screaming for a DT this past year.

You don't have to upgrade your team in one off-season, it's about building a team that can compete on an annual basis. T-hat's how the successful franchises do it. Have you ever seen the Colts, Steelers, or Patriots sign a non-qb for this kind of money? Look, Haynesworth is a great player, but even with him on the team we are still the fourth best team in the NFC east. We have by far the worst qb and oline situations in our division and yet we just guaranteed over $60 million to a corner and a DT. Sure DT needed to be upgraded, but that could have been done through the draft. We should be focusing first and foremost on the offensive line. All this is is another example of Snyder and Vinny trying to buy a championship. Last off-season they showed restraint and used the draft. That didn't give them a championship so they decided to blow their load on free agents this time around. They need to just pick a plan and stick with it.

VetSkinsFan · Post by **VetSkinsFan** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:00 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Hayne + Griff sounds good. We just need them to be healthy.

I'm mixing Daniels in there on the interior.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:01 am

Rotoworld is usually pretty smart about the intelligence of certain moves... and they're also pretty low on the Redskins... but they really praised this one:

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Redskins agreed to terms with Albert Haynesworth on a seven-year, $100 million contract. The deal includes $41 million guaranteed and could reach $115 million.

The $41 million is guaranteed in the first three years, which could make it relatively easy to revisit the contract then. We'll see how he reacts to all the money, but Redskins coordinator Greg Blache usually gets the most from his linemen and Haynesworth is the best free agent available in a decade. In a market full of mediocre players, he's worth it. Life just got far easier for Jason Taylor and far worse for NFC East opposing centers. A presser is scheduled
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The more I think about it the more I like it.

He's going to get double teamed all day leaving Jason Taylor and Andre Carter free to wreak havoc.

Not only that, but with Griff, Monty and Golston (if they all come back) we can rotate around moving Haynesworth to defensive end causing even more problems.

Our secondary should be strong and a much improved pass rush should help everyone behind the defensive line.

VetSkinsFan · Post by **VetSkinsFan** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:05 am

Bob 0119 wrote:I'm not happy with this signing.

Woo-hoo! We spent $100 million dollars so now we might move up from being the fourth rated defense to the third rated defense!

Now we'll lose games by scores of 13-7 instead of 17-7!

$\:D/$

I'm a bit more optimstic about it. We still have our draft, 2nd tier FA, and JC & JZ in their 2nd year together. No need to be a downer quite yet.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:07 am

I really don't know how to feel about this... I'm hopeful on one hand, as, unless the man completely disappears, this move will instantly double our sacks next season... Haynesworth is the kind of player whom must be accounted for in game planning, and not only will he get his, but the ends and LBs who can now charge in knowing that the interior line is thoroughly occupied will see a dramatic increase in opportunities as well.

On the other hand, how much will this cost in terms of our ability to repair and upgrade our seriously impaired offensive line. We have multiple needs, and limited draft picks.

I'm hopeful... but, unlike certain Haynesworth is THE answer types, I still see that there are many needs. Clearly, this limits our options in meeting those.

Gibbs4Life · Post by **Gibbs4Life** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:07 am

No need to be a downer quite yet.

No joke. All I ask in the offseason is that we get better

And we just got a whole lot better.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:11 am

Bob 0119 wrote:I'm not happy with this signing.

Woo-hoo! We spent $100 million dollars so now we might move up from being the fourth rated defense to the third rated defense!

Now we'll lose games by scores of 13-7 instead of 17-7!

$\:D/$

LOL And I'm the pessimistic one. :wink:

Sure we were ranked 4th but were dead last where it matters and that was pass rush. If we had been ranked 10th overall but in the top 5-10 with a rush, our defense may have been "better".

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:13 am

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:18 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Bob 0119 wrote:I'm not happy with this signing.

Woo-hoo! We spent $100 million dollars so now we might move up from being the fourth rated defense to the third rated defense!

Now we'll lose games by scores of 13-7 instead of 17-7!

$\:D/$

LOL And I'm the pessimistic one. Sure we were ranked 4th but were dead last where it matters and that was pass rush. If we had been ranked 10th overall but in the top 5-10 with a rush, our defense may have been "better".

That's right, Chris. And even with the 4th ranked defense, we still lost a few games at the end of last season when opposing teams ran the ball down our throats and the defense couldn't get off the field.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:21 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Bob 0119 wrote:I'm not happy with this signing.

Woo-hoo! We spent $100 million dollars so now we might move up from being the fourth rated defense to the third rated defense!

Now we'll lose games by scores of 13-7 instead of 17-7!

$\:D/$

LOL And I'm the pessimistic one. Sure we were ranked 4th but were dead last where it matters and that was pass rush. If we had been ranked 10th overall but in the top 5-10 with a rush, our defense may have been "better".

Exactly!

There's not a lot of urgency to score when the offense you're playing against is terrible.

The Redskins played some good offenses, but since we were 28th in points scored (behind the freaking Lions!) those same offenses weren't storming down the field so they could keep up with us.

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:22 am

There is no question that he immediately upgrades our line, and instantly transforms a position of weakness into one in strength. There is also no question that he's an utterly dominant force at DT.

The problem is that there are serious downsides to this, from a non-playing aspect: (1) he's had a well-documented history of injuries, and at 28 (when the season starts), it's not like big fat guys like him get healthier; (2) and the cost is freaking mindblowing.

What production on the field would justify him earning this much money? Seriously...I can't even think what would justify it out of the DT position.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:24 am

SkinsFreak wrote:That's right, Chris. And even with the 4th ranked defense, we still lost a few games at the end of last season when opposing teams ran the ball down our throats and the defense couldn't get off the field.

To be quite fair to the defense, some of that was caused by an offense not keeping them rested. They both had issues. With improvements across the board, this will solve this issue.

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:24 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:
Bob 0119 wrote:I'm not happy with this signing.

Woo-hoo! We spent $100 million dollars so now we might move up from being the fourth rated defense to the third rated defense!

Now we'll lose games by scores of 13-7 instead of 17-7!

$\:D/$

LOL And I'm the pessimistic one. Sure we were ranked 4th but were dead last where it matters and that was pass rush. If we had been ranked 10th overall but in the top 5-10 with a rush, our defense may have been "better".

28th in pass rush, not dead last, CLL. Pathetic, not abysmal. We had 24 sacks...the worst passrushing team in the NFL was the Chiefs, who had a laughable 10 sacks. TEN SACKS!

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:26 am

PulpExposure wrote:What production on the field would justify him earning this much money? Seriously...I can't even think what would justify it out of the DT position.

I don't disagree but he was gon get it from somewhere... Who else could we have picked up that was a sure thing? I dont like it but we got a sure thing if he's healthy. If he gets nicked up, we can survive without him for a few games. We KNOW we can win without him, hopefully it's not a season sending deal.

Plus we have to expect our offense to be better than 28th in points scored.