langleyparkjoe wrote:maybe because of past racist comments associating blacks with monkeys/apes I do think its directed at obama. to me and a lot of co-workers here (of all races as well) they see it as the same thing because in the end no matter who officially writes it or signs it, the stimulus bill is still obama's project. moreso i don't agree with the majority of things that sharpton says and some of his views but this time I agree with him 100%. Don't forget on the reverse side of the cartoon, there's a picture of Obama signing the stimulus bill. The only monkey that was shot was the "pet" monkey who went "apes" on its owner and what does that monkey have to do with our economic situation? "It broadly mocks Washington's efforts to revive the economy"... really? Cappster I disagree with you that Sharpton is trying to gather attention here, he's not the only person who is furious about it, and no, it is NOT ok to refer to Bush as an ape when they're other terms that fit him better...like.. idiot for instance. You say they try to keep racism alive, now that is the most ridiculous statement i've seen on this board since i've joined. I'm not trying to match the wrongs because blacks haven't always been on the recieving end but when Obama first ran for the office, a lot of racist whites started their nonsense as well. Just for the record I heard about the story on Hot 99.5, a white disc jokey who was furious about it that ripped New York Post a new you know what on air.. I didn't hear it from Sharpton. Also, if Sharpton didn't say anyting about it, does that mean no one else would've??? to me.. it clearly goes at Obama but whatever, go ahead and do the nonsense, he's still our guy and we should support him the same way we needed to support bush.. and bush wasn't a color issue, he made clear mistakes that he admitted to
Is it truly ridiculous that I believe Al Sharpton is trying to keep racism alive? Sharpton is a profiteer in that he will use his "cause" to keep lining his pockets with money. If he doesn't have a cause to keep fighting for, the "reverend" is out of a "job." What civil rights does he still have to fight for that aren't already granted? None in my opinion. Blacks/minorities are entitled to the same opportunity as whites are in this Country. Granted, you will have racists that still try undermine society's progress, but I feel they are in the minority and their numbers are shrinking every day. Sharpton is also a big fat hypocrite. Remember how he and his buddy Jesse Jackson came down on the accused in the Duke rape case? When the accused were aquited did you hear them apologize for defaming the character of those boys? No, but they are quick to demand an apology when there is a stupid little cartoon with a dead monkey on it. Case in point:
WALLACE: Well, let me ask you about another case. When those three students charged in the Duke rape case were charged in the case, even after people found holes in the prosecutor's argument, you continued to side with the accuser.
Here's what you told Bill O'Reilly.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SHARPTON: This D.A. is probably not one that is crazy. He would not have proceeded it he did not feel...
BILL O'REILLY, FOX NEWS HOST: I'm not criticizing him.
SHARPTON: ... that he could convict.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WALLACE: Reverend Sharpton, now that all of those students have been found innocent by the state attorney general, will you apologize to the Duke students?
SHARPTON: Mr. Wallace, maybe you played the wrong tape. I think what I said in that tape was that the D.A. is apparently not crazy, and this is what the D.A. said.
You said that you were getting ready to play a tape where I said that this case must be pushed despite the holes in it. That's not what you played. And the reason you didn't play it is because I never said that.
What I said is that the D.A., we felt, brought the charges because — the charges he felt he had evidence for. If the D.A. misled us, you want me to apologize for what, being misled?
WALLACE: Well, one could argue that, in fact, you — a lot of other people were saying let's see what happens in the court case. You were siding with the prosecutor. You were saying he's not crazy.
SHARPTON: No, I said that I did not...
WALLACE: What about the presumption of innocence, Reverend Sharpton?
SHARPTON: Wait, woah, woah.
WALLACE: What about the presumption of innocence, Reverend Sharpton?
SHARPTON: Well, first of all, again, what you are trying to do is compare a man who gets on radio that involved no case, no allegation — nobody said anything about these students — and called them nappy-headed ho's with cases that people — whether it's O.J., whether it's Michael Jackson or anything else — people have a right to take positions on what they believe in a case.
You cannot take an individual case and compare that to people getting on federally regulated broadcast stations and making, for no reason, no context, no accusation, just blanket statements. You're trying to compare apples and oranges.
WALLACE: And, Reverend Sharpton, even after the case has been completely disproved, even after the attorney general in North Carolina has said that it was an overreaching, overzealous prosecutor, you're still not willing to say...
SHARPTON: Oh, absolutely, but...
WALLACE: ... "I, Reverend Sharpton, was wrong, I owe an apology to those students?"
SHARPTON: ... you didn't ask that question. You did not ask that question.
WALLACE: Well, I'm asking it to you now, sir.
SHARPTON: I wish you would, rather than assume my answer. Not only would I said today I think clearly the prosecutor misled us, and that what happened to those young men were horrible, I said it on my show Friday. It said it immediately after it happened.
So to act as though I have not said that is not true. You should have asked that. I've said that as soon as it came down. I said it on my radio program Friday.
But again, you didn't ask that. You assumed an answer and put it in my mouth and then asked me to apologize for it.
WALLACE: I don't think that's exactly what I did. Actually, what I said was now that the attorney general says they're all innocent, do you apologize to the students.
SHARPTON: No. You said will I now...
WALLACE: In any case, Reverend Sharpton, let me ask you one...
SHARPTON: ... do it, as if I had not done it.
WALLACE: Reverend Sharpton, let me ask you one...
SHARPTON: I did it.
WALLACE: ... final question, if I may.
SHARPTON: I will again do it. I did it on Friday.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266213,00.htmlYou gotta love how he attacks Wallace for the way he asked the question instead of actually answering the question that was asked.
And here is his buddy Jesse:
The Rev. Jesse Jackson said Saturday that his Rainbow/Push Coalition will pay the college tuition for a black stripper who has made rape allegations against white members of Duke University's men's lacrosse team.
And the offer stands even if it turns out she fabricated her story.
Jackson told The Associated Press Saturday that his organization is committed to making sure the 27-year-old divorced mother of two will never again "have to stoop that low to survive."
But in a recent interview with The Associated Press, Jackson said history can't help but loom large over this case. It is particularly horrible because these white men hired black women to strip for them.
"That fantasy's as old as slave masters impregnating young slave girls," he said.
Cheshire found Jackson's comment odd, since the lacrosse players did not specifically ask for black strippers.
"There is no slave-master mentality here, and that's just another perfect example of ... self-absorbed race pandering," Cheshire said.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1091599/
Anyway, back to the topic at hand. I feel that we are going to have to hear about race the whole time Obama is in office. God forbid if SNL does a parity of Obama and offend somebody, but they probably will and we all will have to hear about for weeks on end. I just feel that every time that anyone can remotely associate a newspaper article or anything else that is negative about our government the race card will be pulled. I personally am just sick and tired of the "poor old me" mentality. Too many people are living in the past no matter how much we are trying to move forward. Not to mention that the "white man" is always painted as the big fat racist that hate black people.
Maybe I think too differently than other people as I don't get offended to easily. I just think people tend to see the negative aspect of anything and ignore the true meaning of what it was intended to be. One thing that does get under my skin is the fact that everyone refers to Obama as being black. Does being black override his other ethnicity? I think to myself, since my son is mixed (half white/half black), what if they just view him as being "African American" because that would be a false statement as is Barack Obama being an African American. Is my son not made up with 50% of my genes? Does half of his ancestry just not exist because black overrides white (I actually have Indian in my family too)? We as a society need to drop the race crap and have all of us be known as Americans. Sadly, I don't think that will ever happen.
ey is going to have to get his name changed as it could be seen as offensive.