Fans Have To Step Up

[Gibbs4Life]

For all the blame we the fans have to dish out on the team and its management, this year something happened that I'd like everyone on this board to help remedy. FedEx Field, something is wrong.

Thousands of terrible towels waving on MNF, then for the next game we hand out burgandy towels? Come on. We have a problem, our team was terrible at home alot of it could have been that they were demoralized by scenes like MNF against pit.

Now, full disclosure I live in Nashville and did not attend any Redskins games, but I was under the impression that as a team we sell out every game and there is a waiting list for years to get season tickets. Someone said that our fans were selling their tickets to Steeler fans and that's how it happened. My answer to that is wtf? What kind of fan sells their ticket to an opponents fans?

Anyone who has ever attended a football game knows that the atmosphere in the stands has a direct effect on what happens on the field, and its not just noise, its energy, and in our case attendance. Something has to be done and I'm not sure what can be, but it can't go on like this.

An opposing fan visiting a home stadium should not have a pleasant experience, I'm not advocating violence, but spill a beer or something! Or even better don't sell your ticket you piece of garbage, give it to a real fan who can't afford tickets. The more I think about the pit disaster the more I am embarrassed of us the fans and like Joe Gibbs would say I think we're all in it together and it starts with me, I never attended, but financially it was an impossibility.

I'm interested in the thoughts from those of you who actually do go to FedEx, what can be done? what are the underlying issues? How bad was it in person?


We have to do better, we had a part in the terrible home record.

[Jake]

I was very disappointed at how things turned out at the stadium this season as well but as this weekend proved, home field advantage was not so powerful this year when it mattered the most.

[Gibbs4Life]

I was very disappointed at how things turned out at the stadium this season as well but as this weekend proved, home field advantage was not so powerful this year when it mattered the most.

The playoffs are a crapshoot. Anything can happen once you're in. The key is you have to get in, and in our case it would help to win the division, we will never win the east without a homefield advantage.

[CanesSkins26]

I'm interested in the thoughts from those of you who actually do go to FedEx, what can be done? what are the underlying issues? How bad was it in person?

Prices at Fed Ex are ridiculous. Among the highest in the NFL for a very sub-par product on the field. I think that people are simply tired of paying lots of money to watch a bad football team. I finally was offered season tickets after almost 10 years on the waiting list but turned them down because I don't want to pay that much money to sit in tons of traffic and then watch bad football. A close friend of mine's family has had season tickets for over 15 years and this season they finally stopped renewing them because of the price/bad football.

[tribeofjudah]

For all the blame we the fans have to dish out on the team and its management, this year something happened that I'd like everyone on this board to help remedy. FedEx Field, something is wrong.

Thousands of terrible towels waving on MNF, then for the next game we hand out burgandy towels? Come on. We have a problem, our team was terrible at home alot of it could have been that they were demoralized by scenes like MNF against pit.

Now, full disclosure I live in Nashville and did not attend any Redskins games, but I was under the impression that as a team we sell out every game and there is a waiting list for years to get season tickets. Someone said that our fans were selling their tickets to Steeler fans and that's how it happened. My answer to that is wtf? What kind of fan sells their ticket to an opponents fans?

Anyone who has ever attended a football game knows that the atmosphere in the stands has a direct effect on what happens on the field, and its not just noise, its energy, and in our case attendance. Something has to be done and I'm not sure what can be, but it can't go on like this.

An opposing fan visiting a home stadium should not have a pleasant experience, I'm not advocating violence, but spill a beer or something! Or even better don't sell your ticket you piece of garbage, give it to a real fan who can't afford tickets. The more I think about the pit disaster the more I am embarrassed of us the fans and like Joe Gibbs would say I think we're all in it together and it starts with me, I never attended, but financially it was an impossibility.

I'm interested in the thoughts from those of you who actually do go to FedEx, what can be done? what are the underlying issues? How bad was it in person?


We have to do better, we had a part in the terrible home record.

Good post. What kind of fans sells their tix....HARD UP ONES. Money is tight and people need to eat... I'm not making excuses - I'm just saying....

I bought 2 Skins at Niners tickets last Dec. on Ebay. Wow - that season ticket holder just sold them in a snap - like donating blood.

If I lived on the East coast, you bet I would be at Fed Ex on game day.

[tcwest10]

Homefield advantage is not what is was years ago before the advent of Direct TV.
Given the choice of lounging in the comfort of your own living room, in your own lazy boy and free parking...many have decided that braving the elements is not for them.
I expect this trend to continue, with the new PSL policies popping up everywhere. If you're a seson ticket holder, and you can't make 3 of the games on the schedule, there's an opportunity to make some of your money back.
Many take that opportunity.

[Gibbs4Life]

It sounds like lowering ticket prices and doing some things to improve traffic and parking would go a long way. Snyder has to look at it because as loyal as we are, if the team continues to be mediocre for the next 3 years we might turn into the lions.

[Redskin in Canada]

It sounds like lowering ticket prices and doing some things to improve traffic and parking would go a long way. Snyder has to look at it ...

Lowering the price of what ???

Stop scalping its own Parking permits ???

The fans might boycott the team ???

[Gibbs4Life]

Maybe we just hire "the Hell's Angels" to handle opposing fans

I really dislike pittsburgh, I'm sorry they are trumping NY and PHI right now

[Cappster]

It sounds like lowering ticket prices and doing some things to improve traffic and parking would go a long way. Snyder has to look at it ...

Lowering the price of what ???

Stop scalping its own Parking permits ???

The fans might boycott the team ???

They can start by cracking down on places like stubhub (just so happens they have a link to the site from the redskins home page). I like how they pretty much sponsor 100-300 percent markups on someone trying to resell tickets. When season ticket holders and ticket scalping sites sell tickets at extreme costs, someone like me who is a rabid fan with a family to support, can only root from my couch. I will live comfortable one day, but today is not my day.

[Fios]

The Redskins have a formal relationship with StubHub and thus have no incentive to crack down. I've found the prices there to be relatively reasonable but, again, I don't like going to games at FedEx so I don't spend much time looking.

[Cappster]

The Redskins have a formal relationship with StubHub and thus have no incentive to crack down. I've found the prices there to be relatively reasonable but, again, I don't like going to games at FedEx so I don't spend much time looking.

The only reasonable price is face value. Any ticket with a markup shouldn't be endorsed by any NFL team.

[kingfish51]

People are tired of Little Danny and his mediocre product.
If I want to see a Circus, I'll wait for the Barnum and Bailey Circus to come to town. It's also a hell of a lot cheaper and you actually get your money's worth.

[Irn-Bru]

I will live comfortable one day, but today is not my day.

And unfortunately, until that day arrives, Snyder doesn't care about you. Sad truth. . .the man does not know what he could have in the D.C. fanbase.

I do find the fans at FedEx to be disappointing but it's hard to think that things could really be any different. Danny is getting exactly what he's asking for, as everyone in life does. It might look like he's successful, but in the end he is only hurting himself.

[Fios]

The Redskins have a formal relationship with StubHub and thus have no incentive to crack down. I've found the prices there to be relatively reasonable but, again, I don't like going to games at FedEx so I don't spend much time looking.

The only reasonable price is face value. Any ticket with a markup shouldn't be endorsed by any NFL team.

I don't necessarily agree with that, I know it's a rule we enforce at THN (and I support it) but outside of sites like this one, I think the seller should be allowed to earn whatever the market will pay. I've had the supply-and-demand equation work in my favor too, I saw the Indians play at Camden last year, I had seats about 15 rows behind the Indians dugout which cost me about $30 a pop. Now, in a larger context of fans being priced out of the game, I definitely take issue with that. But if some idiot wants to pony up $500 for tickets, that's his prerogative.

[PMG12569]

That is an easy answer. The DC metro area has a lot of Government employees and a lot of businesses. It is a huge mixing bowl of the common fan. The economy the way it is right now, a lot of the people that attend the games are the yuppies that buy tickets for them and their buddies and dont really care about the outcome. They just go because they can afford it and throw a huge tailgate, and its something to do. The other times it's a fan of a visiting team that knows they are going to start saving up as soon as they know their team is coming to town (Pitt). Fedex is never going to be Heinz field or Qualcomm stadium as long as prices are that high and the mixing bowl still has corporate tickets.

[Wahoo McDaniels]

For all the blame we the fans have to dish out on the team and its management, this year something happened that I'd like everyone on this board to help remedy. FedEx Field, something is wrong.

Thousands of terrible towels waving on MNF, then for the next game we hand out burgandy towels? Come on. We have a problem, our team was terrible at home alot of it could have been that they were demoralized by scenes like MNF against pit.

Now, full disclosure I live in Nashville and did not attend any Redskins games, but I was under the impression that as a team we sell out every game and there is a waiting list for years to get season tickets. Someone said that our fans were selling their tickets to Steeler fans and that's how it happened. My answer to that is wtf? What kind of fan sells their ticket to an opponents fans?

Anyone who has ever attended a football game knows that the atmosphere in the stands has a direct effect on what happens on the field, and its not just noise, its energy, and in our case attendance. Something has to be done and I'm not sure what can be, but it can't go on like this.

An opposing fan visiting a home stadium should not have a pleasant experience, I'm not advocating violence, but spill a beer or something! Or even better don't sell your ticket you piece of garbage, give it to a real fan who can't afford tickets. The more I think about the pit disaster the more I am embarrassed of us the fans and like Joe Gibbs would say I think we're all in it together and it starts with me, I never attended, but financially it was an impossibility.

I'm interested in the thoughts from those of you who actually do go to FedEx, what can be done? what are the underlying issues? How bad was it in person?


We have to do better, we had a part in the terrible home record.

I've had enough of anybody who blames the fans for not supporting their team. I have been to every game for as long as I can remember (missing a few due to injuries and family events that I could not extricate myself from) and for the past 10 years I feel like a battered wife. I have been taken advantage of by an inferior owner who uses everything in his power to make money and I keep coming back because I'm sure "he's going to change". Here's just a few of Danny's transgressions over the past 6 years that many of the people who frequent this site may not know about...but those who religiously go to the games do know:

(1) He installed 15,000 seats into the stadium without anybody's permission. Prince George's County was shocked to learn this and he didn't make sure that there was adequate parking, police officers, or traffic control. Many of these seats are obstructed view. Don't worry, Danny installed tv's so you can see the game and diamond sheeting like the back of your pick-up so you can "stomp" and make noise (aka "the stomp zone"). Here's the problem, most Skins fans know these are terrible seats and only visitors take the seats. So you have irate visiting fans who can't see the games with access to noise by stomping their feet...great strategy again Danny.

(2) He barred fans from walking into the stadium. That's right. He made you use his parking from one of his lots that were remote to the stadium so he could reap all the revenue. He said "it was a safety concern" for fans to walk to the stadium. Funny part is he had no problem with fans walking out of the stadium. He gauged the fans so hard they took him to court and won.

(3) He refuses to put anybody with any amount of football knowledge at the head of his football operations. Whether it be Vinnie or himself, he year in and year out puts an inferior product on the field.

So, spare me the "fans have to step up" lines. Fans have been taken advantage of by an opportunistic money grubber who knows that he can take advantage of us and we'll keep coming back because we can't seem to leave our abusive loved one.

[DEHog]

(1) He installed 15,000 seats into the stadium without anybody's permission. Prince George's County was shocked to learn this and he didn't make sure that there was adequate parking, police officers, or traffic control. Many of these seats are obstructed view. Don't worry, Danny installed tv's so you can see the game and diamond sheeting like the back of your pick-up so you can "stomp" and make noise (aka "the stomp zone"). Here's the problem, most Skins fans know these are terrible seats and only visitors take the seats. So you have irate visiting fans who can't see the games with access to noise by stomping their feet...great strategy again Danny.

I'm sure with P.G. County and in particular Jack Johnson all was forgiving after all JJ doesn't want to lose his "free" 50 yard line suite at FedEx!

[Jake]

I was very disappointed at how things turned out at the stadium this season as well but as this weekend proved, home field advantage was not so powerful this year when it mattered the most.

The playoffs are a crapshoot. Anything can happen once you're in.

The same applies to the regular season.

[Chris Luva Luva]

Fans don't have to do jack but sit in their seats.

Let's charge the organization with some aultimatems before passing that on to the paying customer.

Cheering won't help Carlos catch.
Cheering won't make Clinton stop running his mouth.
Cheering won't make Jason a viable option at QB.
Cheering won't make Zorn teach better.
Cheering won't inact proper utilization of the draft.
Cheering won't teach them how to groom young talent.
etc.
etc.
etc.

How about charging the organization with giving the fans something to cheer about.

Snyder should be thanking his lucky stars that people those who do attend are as faithful as they are.

[RedskinsFreak]

Cheering won't help Carlos catch.
Cheering won't make Clinton stop running his mouth.
Cheering won't make Jason a viable option at QB.
Cheering won't make Zorn teach better.
Cheering won't inact proper utilization of the draft.
Cheering won't teach them how to groom young talent.
etc.

How about charging the organization with giving the fans something to cheer about.

If I'm visiting my sister and attending my nephew's 10-year-old soccer game, I'm giving him that "nice try, get 'em again" supportive type of cheer.

But I don't see how that's my obligation if/when (and it's a much bigger if than a when) I go to a Redskins game. Big difference.

[Fios]

Sorry, I'm not in the camp that says you can't boo a team when they suck but if you aren't going to be vocal, stay home.

[Redskin in Canada]

So, spare me the "fans have to step up" lines. Fans have been taken advantage of by an opportunistic money grubber who knows that he can take advantage of us and we'll keep coming back because we can't seem to leave our abusive loved one.

Amen brother.

In fact, I would argue that

-THE FANS HAVE TO STEP DOWN- !!!

If and when revenue REALLY drops, he will sell the team.

Daniel Snyder is a greedy SOB (son of a bill) !!!

How greedy, you might ask???

Well, let me tell you: The organization turns the HIGHEST profit among the entire companies that he owns. And still ... just because revenue did not achieve his EXPECTED levels this year, he fired at least 20 employees. What? You do not believe me, right?

Look:

Redskins Fire at Least 20 Employees, Washington Post Reports
By Curtis Eichelberger

Jan. 9 (Bloomberg) -- The Washington Redskins fired at least 20 employees because of a decline in revenue, the Washington Post reported.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... O6yJHyA9vs

What kind of an owner BLAMES the Cheerleaders for the team foes??

Yeah, the Cheerleaders !!! Read the article above.

This is his version of ACCOUNTability

How about LOYALTY, you might ask? This his version of loyalty:

As a condition of their benefits and severance packages, outgoing employees must sign a confidentiality agreement, which precludes them from speaking publicly about the organization or the conditions of their departure. Several did speak on the condition of anonymity, however.

"It was very sad," one of the departing employees said. "We were all just sitting there waiting to see who was next. There were a lot of tears shed."

Several of the longest-serving members of the organization, including some who worked for owner Daniel Snyder previously at Snyder Communications, were among those let go.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redski ... insinsider

And some of you guys want that the fans step up???

[funbunch65]

I agree, if you are going to the game you have to be as vocal as possible. A true fan will try and give their team any advantage within their power. I live in Ohio, so I had the chance to see the Skins play the Bengals and I was treated like crap during and after the game. These guys had only won 1 game and are horrible every year yet still they were giving me the business, and just going crazy supporting their team. I would love to have the chance to return the favor at Fed Ex and hopefully the rest of the fans would be rowdy as well.

[ChocolateMilk]

all i know is that i went to 3 games this year and every time i left with no voice..