If you could fire just one person

Talk about the Washington Football Team here. Do you bleed burgundy and gold?

Who would you fire?

Snyder
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45%
Cerrato
14
27%
Zorn
3
6%
Campbell
3
6%
Larry michael
5
10%
Other
3
6%
 
Total votes: 51

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If I could fire two people, I would fire Dan Snyder twice. He is the cancer.
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Snyder. Do I really need to give an explanation? We have the last nine years to go on.
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I think the past couple of off-seasons have been an improvement. And last years draft was the best Skins draft in over a decade. Anyone who judges talent and success besed on a players rookie year is missing the whole point of the draft. So, I for one say, I hope Dan and Vinny continue to work this off-season like they did last year and let's see where it leads. Funny how when we were 6-2, everyone was singing the praises of the FO, now all the sudden, they're to blame for the losses, the Irag War and the economy. :roll:

There are some players I'd like to fire though.
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fleetus wrote:I think the past couple of off-seasons have been an improvement. And last years draft was the best Skins draft in over a decade. Anyone who judges talent and success besed on a players rookie year is missing the whole point of the draft. So, I for one say, I hope Dan and Vinny continue to work this off-season like they did last year and let's see where it leads. Funny how when we were 6-2, everyone was singing the praises of the FO, now all the sudden, they're to blame for the losses, the Irag War and the economy. :roll:



:-$ Shhhh.... they'll accuse you of defending Vinny and being in love with Snyder!
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I'd fire SkinsFreak.
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VetSkinsFan wrote:I'd fire SkinsFreak.


Thanks, I appreciate that. <sarcasm>
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SkinsFreak wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:I'd fire SkinsFreak.


Thanks, I appreciate that. <sarcasm>


:lol:
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VetSkinsFan wrote:
SkinsFreak wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:I'd fire SkinsFreak.


Thanks, I appreciate that. <sarcasm>


:lol:


What a pain in the neck... :D
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PulpExposure wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:
SkinsFreak wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:I'd fire SkinsFreak.


Thanks, I appreciate that. <sarcasm>


:lol:


What a pain in the neck... :D


:lol: No doubt... :lol:
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Skinsfan55 wrote:I wouldn't fire anyone. Personally I think Danny is softening on his hands on approach and I think that Vinny C is a really capable front office man. He was recruiting coordinator for Lou Holtz's Fighting Irish, and director of college scouting (later promoted to director of player personnel) with the 49ers towards the end of their glory days. His track record is pretty good, though it's tainted somewhat because he and Snyder are such good friends. I'd just let Zorn fulfill his contract and good things will happen.


You have to be kidding.
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roybus14 wrote:Firing the owner ain't gonna happen. Vinnie needs to go because in his "real" first year on the job, he didn't address the major needs for this team at OL and DL. Instead he went for skilled positions that have not panned out yet when we have other pressing needs. If he had selected one of them and then used the other two picks on OL and DL, then he'd done something. Gibbs didn't address it either during his 2nd stint.

It is obviously that our winning percentage with free agents is pretty low even though we've won a few with guys like London. Trading picks for Taylor has not worked out or maybe it's too early to tell but right now, either him or Carter have to go and make room for a young FA or a rookie.

I say blow it up and fire Vinnie, Zorn, and the entire coaching staff. Since Danny is so good at marketing, maybe he could sell Casserly or some young assistant GM who is working behind a guy like Ossie Newsome, Ernie Acorsi, or Scott Pioli that is ready to become a full-time GM to come here.

Once you have that GM in place, then begin the search for a coach. Cowher maybe out of the picture with Cleveland looming large but what about Russ Grimm; Jim Schwartz; Steve Spagnuolo; Rex Ryan; and Mike Mularkey?? I'm sure these guys who have been successful as Coordinators on one side of the ball or the other would have sense enough to bring in one of these crusty old fired HC's to run the other side of the ball where they are effective and not try to do it all like Zorn has done in their first year. Norv is not and will never be HC material but he's a hell of a coordinator when that is all he does. Same thing with Romeo Crennel.

After the HC and staff are assembled, then evaluate the cap and the talent you have working against it. That would mean some decisions need to be made on Springs, Washington, JTaylor, Blades, Fabini/Kendall, Jansen, ARE, etc. We are too invested in Clinton to just cut him loose but Betts would be trade bait to see if we could get picks for him. RB's can be had anywhere so if Betts is traded, it wouldn't exactly kill us.

After you've cleaned house, sign D.Hall and with the draft picks we do have, focus on OL/DL, LB, and RB. If there is a young FA with talent available to fill one of those needs, then make him an offer. Otherwise, begin building the core of this team through the draft.

Lastly, announce to the die-hard fans of this team that this is your 5-year rebuilding plan and you are sticking to it. No coaching changes, no offensive or defensive changes, building through the draft and FA second and just sticking with this plan and letting your new GM and Coaching staff do what they do to make it work.


Casserly = Cerrato.

No thanks. Casserly did nothing but kill the skins in the 90s. The only success he had was inheriting a SB team. After that SB, he destroyed the franchise.
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I would fire Casey Husband because I can't stand those stupid sweater vests he wears!!!
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VetSkinsFan wrote:I'd fire SkinsFreak.


Hell, I'd fire 90% of the members on this message board if you wanna go down that route. :lol:
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Jake wrote:
VetSkinsFan wrote:I'd fire SkinsFreak.


Hell, I'd fire 90% of the members on this message board if you wanna go down that route. :lol:

It was a poor attempt at humor that escaped the forum medium and I apologized to SF already. On that note, some days I'd probably fire me, too, though ROTFALMAO
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Chris Luva Luva wrote:There is only one logical answer. Snyder. Removing Snyder would remove Cerrato. 2 rats with one stone.


I was tempted to vote for Larry Michael.

agree, I can't believe any put someone else other than Snyder.
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skins2357 wrote:some ppl on here are unbelievable. I am in NO WAY defending Danny boy...but come on. As an owner goes, he is not as bad as yall are making him out to be.



I totally agree. Here in Bears country, people tell me all the time that they wish they had an owner that cared about the team and spent money. Sure he's had to learn at our expense, but he's getting better, and he'll make this work. I truely think we are finally about to take the next step. That's why I would ban the Skins if they fired Zorn. That's the wrong direction. Fire Cerrato? Maybe. I voted for Larry Michael. Oh man is that guy bad.
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chiefhog44 wrote:Here in Bears country, people tell me all the time that they wish they had an owner that cared about the team and spent money.

But, as we've seen, that's hardly enough. THAT he cares and THAT he spends isn't the issue. It's the HOW.
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RedskinsFreak wrote:
chiefhog44 wrote:Here in Bears country, people tell me all the time that they wish they had an owner that cared about the team and spent money.

But, as we've seen, that's hardly enough. THAT he cares and THAT he spends isn't the issue. It's the HOW.


Yeah, well, every team misses on players. I'd love for anyone to prove otherwise.
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SKINFAN wrote:I voted Campbell, I fell from the bandwagon and it hurt... I think he is a good QB, but I don't think he is the right fit for us.


Thanks for being honest. I think it was so easy to fall for him while your other option was Brunell. Now we're going through the same thing with Colt Brennan.
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SkinsFreak wrote:
RedskinsFreak wrote:
chiefhog44 wrote:Here in Bears country, people tell me all the time that they wish they had an owner that cared about the team and spent money.

But, as we've seen, that's hardly enough. THAT he cares and THAT he spends isn't the issue. It's the HOW.


Yeah, well, every team misses on players. I'd love for anyone to prove otherwise.

I think many here can't see the forest for the trees. Sure, everyone misses. To pare it down to one find or one miss or say "they drafted player A at pick #71, when B, C and D (who wound up to be better than A) were still on the board" is missing the point.

It's a "body of work" issue. This adminstration has a 10-year-long body of work, and it's not anywhere close to championship caliber. It got close on a few occasions and, each time, regressed the next season.

The parts that keep changing aren't the cause of the problems. It's the parts that have stayed the same.
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RedskinsFreak wrote:
SkinsFreak wrote:
RedskinsFreak wrote:
chiefhog44 wrote:Here in Bears country, people tell me all the time that they wish they had an owner that cared about the team and spent money.

But, as we've seen, that's hardly enough. THAT he cares and THAT he spends isn't the issue. It's the HOW.


Yeah, well, every team misses on players. I'd love for anyone to prove otherwise.

I think many here can't see the forest for the trees. Sure, everyone misses. To pare it down to one find or one miss or say "they drafted player A at pick #71, when B, C and D (who wound up to be better than A) were still on the board" is missing the point.

It's a "body of work" issue. This adminstration has a 10-year-long body of work, and it's not anywhere close to championship caliber. It got close on a few occasions and, each time, regressed the next season.

The parts that keep changing aren't the cause of the problems. It's the parts that have stayed the same.


Agreed. But in all fairness, the constant changes ARE part of the problem.

The way I see it, Vinny is the only change that could and should be made. Snyder isn't selling the team and there's no one to "fire him", as the poll comically suggests. And since it seems Snyder likes Vinny, what other change could be made?

I'd love to see Vinny replaced, but I just don't see that happening, at least any time soon. And to be fair, he has gotten better in recent years, thanks in large part to Gibbs. I think the team is heading in the right direction, so let's see if that trends continues.

At the very least, if Vinny stays, at least ya'll will still have someone to blame. :wink: :lol:
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fire snyder would maybe improve play calling or get freddy adoo on the team.
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