Make Cowboy Fans Unwelcome

[JWhitOC]

This is going to have a lot of mixed emotions, but after the steeler debacle at FedEx, I dont know if enough can be said about the importance of HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE.

Im not promoting violence or harsh language, but at the same time there is no way that I can agree with the lasaiz-faire attitude of our fans when it comes to mingling with fans of other teams at the stadium.

As an Ohio State Alum, I can tell you that if anyone wore any team colors into the Horseshoe or on campus during gameday, they were made to feel like the lowest person on earth.

The same can be said about the Cleveland Browns, Philadephia Eagles, Pittsburgh Steelers, Oakland Raiders and countless big time college football teams.

Is it that our FANS are soft? or that the majority of ticket holders are not bleeding burgundy and gold like the rest of us grunts that have put up with the norv and steve eras and have seen the terrible redskins teams put up losing seasons or no playoff appearences.

This is our year to do something great, and it all starts with the fans. The point is that obviously other teams fans think FedEX is a joke and dont even think twice about wearing there colors or cheering loudly. What could/ and should be done to correct the problem (and selling your ticket to redskins only fans is impossible to do pretty much in this day and age)

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS, BEAT SOME DALLASSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[tcwest10]

Man, I sure hope we don't see a repeat of the MNF game. Maybe the stadium really is too big. It's hard to get 91,000 of the same demographic in one place.

[JWhitOC]

i really cant buy that excuse for the team that has the most in apparell sales and one of the largest fan bases in the world of sports. OSU, Michigan, Tennessee, Penn State and the dreaded freakin cowboys of next year will be selling out at least 80000 to 90000 seat stadiums and it would be hard to find more than a thousand fans of the other teams there. I know the Shoe in columbus maxes out at 107000 every game and there is hardly ever another team uni or colors in site except for on the field.

[tribeofjudah]

Welcome whiteOC......... I welcome all newcomers, even the Cowpuke fans.

Welcome to you too...........

[JWhitOC]

long time board viewer, first time posting. attending the game tonite in hopes of an actual HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE.

[MDSKINSFAN]

Man, I sure hope we don't see a repeat of the MNF game. Maybe the stadium really is too big. It's hard to get 91,000 of the same demographic in one place.

I agree with that. With 90,000+ seats available its hard to sell most to Redskins fans. Although I dont think that this is an excuse for Monday night

[jmooney]

Ive attended many Ohio State games, thats definately true. The harassment that opposing teams fans take just on the walk down Lane ave. is staggering. Ive rarely seen it become violent unless the opposing fan escelates it to that level. For the most part, it remains good old fasioned ribbing, There are alot of Mi..... Mich.... eh i cant say it, that team up north, fans in the Columbus area, probably more than cowboy fans here, they dont show up on gameday. The Shoe is a larger stadium catering to a smaller fanbase than the redskins and they manage to make it a hostile place to play even if you are not a rival. Tickets arent exactly cheap, most of the venue is still much less than "state of the art" but they sell it out to homers every game. Just try to get a ticket to the OSU-Mich game, you will pay 3 times what any Redskins-Cowboy ticket would cost AND you can bet if the game is in Columbus, it wont be a Wolverine fan buying em.


Welcome to the site JwhitOC! O! H!.....

[JWhitOC]

I-O! Thats what im talkin about jmooney. We need to have that same energy level at fedex. Carrying on the same topic, I cant believe the way our half-a$$ fans at the stadium sing "HTTR" after scores. Sing that song just as you would the national anthem. Its the little things that give our team the amped up advantage they need. Hell, at the Horseshoe, the buckeyes dont even have to score and that place will be rockin with "Hang on sloopy" as if we had just won a national title.

All I know is that most die hard redskins fans have the fond memory of RFK rockin to chants of "we want dallas". What the heck happened to that kinda passion? it cant be blamed on the stadium. Something has just been lost with our fans but it is NEVER too late to relive the glory!

[jmooney]

It has to do with how many of the old season ticket holders at RFK are now ticket holders at Fed-Ex. Different fans altogether.

Season tickets then were held by families and passed down thru generations.

Alot of season tickets now are held by corporations who brings a fan base from god knows where or sell them outright.

The nature of the DC metro area is that very few people who attend these games are from here.

Unfortunately, its gonna take a superbowl or 2 to get the casual fan to jump on the bandwagon to make it what it used to be. Where the hell were all these Patriot and Colts fans a few years ago? Now look at em.

[skinsrule84]

The Redskins are 21-21 in their last 42 home games. That's pretty embarrasing. Fedex is overhyped.

[VetSkinsFan]

I can't say that I agree with this whole heartedly. As some know, my brother is a Giants fan. We've been to a Skins/Giants game together and there was some good natured ribbing, but I personalylcannot make it a bad environment for other fans. I do bleed burgundy and gold, but I'm not going to make a point ro ruin someone else's time. They paid the money just like I do; how am I better than an opposing fan(even a nasty pukes fan)? Or a friend of mine who's an Eagles fan (from NoVA, not Philly, so he's not nasty like hometown Philly fans) and we take good natured jabs at each other.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy at all about the Steelers home game they had two weeks ago, but to ruin someone else's time deliberately? Can't do it.

[tribeofjudah]

The Redskins are 21-21 in their last 42 home games. That's pretty embarrasing. Fedex is overhyped.

Back to RFK.......... those were the days, huh???

[JWhitOC]

When I go to The Linc in Philly for Redskins away games, i expect their fans to give me hell. I understand that i will be cussed and "ribbed", get shoulders thrown into my chest when i walk, but I am that hardcore of a fan to take that risk. I understand what i am getting into.

Fans should know if they go to the oppositions stadium that things will happen.

No one is saying to "ruin" their experience. But if they are dumb enough to show up to our house, we should do our best and do whatever you feel personal to make them want to get the hell out and never come back. Look at all the Huge stadiums that sell out every game in college. I garuntee their home records are amazing and the fans are the major factor in that.

We as a fan base have gone soft. Too many poser fans going to the games tapping me on my shoulder and telling me to sit down so they can watch the other teams third and short play. Or turning around and asking me if i mind not screaming on third down even though I never curse aloud.

[Irn-Bru]

Man, I sure hope we don't see a repeat of the MNF game. Maybe the stadium really is too big. It's hard to get 91,000 of the same demographic in one place.

Especially in the national melting pot that is DC.

[VetSkinsFan]

I don't think that anyone should a "have a shoulder in their chest" no matter where they go. You may "know what you're getting in to" but I don't condone that and do not support any sort of physical action such as you've illustrated at a sporting event, especially since some of us bring children to these events.

[JWhitOC]

Thats why in my first post I said that Im not talking about Redskins fan being violent or shouting F words at other fans.

As for taking children to games, I cant say Im against it since my fondest memories were of my dad taking me to RFK in the glory years (Im 25 years old). To each his own, but Im pretty sure I wouldnt take anyone under the age of 13. By then they will have seen way worse daily in public schools than even the worst of NFL stadiums.

The fact that the miami dolphins have a better home field crowd than we do is outrageously sad. Hell, they probably had at least 10000 fans on least years opening day game at FedEx. Melting pot or not, it seems as if our fan base doesnt care.

[tcwest10]

I refuse to budge from my position that having so many Steeler fans at that MNF game had an impact.
When our QB can't get his cadence out and make audibles at home because the noise level is out of control, you lose homefield advantage for the offense.
RFK was small enough to be filled with mostly Redskin fans and the seats were heirlooms as opposed to eBay items.
I attended four game at RFK. While I was too far up to get the whole "place is shaking" thing, I can tell you this.
Boy, did it smell there. I miss it, and I miss the the way the field, no matter where you sat, looked much smaller than on TV. Almost like a high school field, to me. The new stadium, while absolutely necessary, seems corporate and cold in comparision.

[Irn-Bru]

The fact that the miami dolphins have a better home field crowd than we do is outrageously sad. Hell, they probably had at least 10000 fans on least years opening day game at FedEx. Melting pot or not, it seems as if our fan base doesnt care.

That's because with Snyder "caring" means $$$. But many (certainly not all) of the people with $$$ lack the passion that we see from the hard core fans. I'm convinced this will never change with Snyder at the helm.

[VetSkinsFan]

I refuse to budge from my position that having so many Steeler fans at that MNF game had an impact.
When our QB can't get his cadence out and make audibles at home because the noise level is out of control, you lose homefield advantage for the offense.
RFK was small enough to be filled with mostly Redskin fans and the seats were heirlooms as opposed to eBay items.
I attended four game at RFK. While I was too far up to get the whole "place is shaking" thing, I can tell you this.
Boy, did it smell there. I miss it, and I miss the the way the field, no matter where you sat, looked much smaller than on TV. Almost like a high school field, to me. The new stadium, while absolutely necessary, seems corporate and cold in comparision.

I never said that the Steelers fiasco was acceptable. You're discussing two different subjects that happen to be related in this example.

[tcwest10]

I was actually responding to the MDSkins fan post on the first page. Didn't mean to interrupt the flow.

[Countertrey]

Especially in the national melting pot that is DC.

That's a load. It was a "national melting pot" when RFK was rocking. It wasn't a problem to find 51000 to raise the decibel level at RFK to unbearable levels. In a metro area the size of DC, 40000 more seats should not be a big deal. Currently, there are not even enough hard core fans at FedEx to fill half the seats at RFK.

[tcwest10]

Besides...we don't use pots for melting anymore. We use microwaves.

[Redskin in Canada]

... there was some good natured ribbing, but I personaly cannot make it a bad environment for other fans.

Amen.

I would not want to be compared to the Philthy Eagles and the Linc. We want a civilized environment. But a 100% Redskin Fan base environment sounds good to me.

[DEHog]

When I go to The Linc in Philly for Redskins away games, i expect their fans to give me hell. I understand that i will be cussed and "ribbed", get shoulders thrown into my chest when i walk, but I am that hardcore of a fan to take that risk. I understand what i am getting into.

Fans should know if they go to the oppositions stadium that things will happen.

No one is saying to "ruin" their experience. But if they are dumb enough to show up to our house, we should do our best and do whatever you feel personal to make them want to get the hell out and never come back. Look at all the Huge stadiums that sell out every game in college. I garuntee their home records are amazing and the fans are the major factor in that.

We as a fan base have gone soft. Too many poser fans going to the games tapping me on my shoulder and telling me to sit down so they can watch the other teams third and short play. Or turning around and asking me if i mind not screaming on third down even though I never curse aloud.

Why would we want to act like that?? When I go to Dallas. Tampa, K.C. (i won't go tot Philly) I expect to see a football game. The fans condust is all about what's wrong with the NFL today...This year has been the worst you say make Dallas fan feel uncomfortable I see way more SKins on Skins bashing at the stadium this year. I for one will not lower myself to act like Philly fans.

Here's an idea...want to make Dallas fans feel uncomfartable make them watch it at home!

[PulpExposure]

... there was some good natured ribbing, but I personaly cannot make it a bad environment for other fans.

Amen.

I would not want to be compared to the Philthy Eagles and the Linc. We want a civilized environment.

Yeah...I mean these are the same fans who boo their own team, throw iceballs on the field (at their own players), and are proud they have a freaking JAIL in their stadium.

There is no way I want Redskins fans to be considered similar to that low-class set of fans.

It's like the Terps (my alma mater) in basketball. Comcast Center is the only place in the ACC that Coach K will not bring his family, because he fears for their safety. I remember Carlos Boozer's mom getting pelted with water bottle during a game (she was also a Maryland alum).

I know some people think that's awesome; I think it's seriously pathetic. I mean I hate Duke as any red-blooded american should, but...it's a freaking game.