CP26 50/50 for dallas?

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:29 pm

umm... I've got an idea... :idea:

The Raiders are now in need of a good corner, right?

With the wise ole' Al Davis making such sound business decisions as of late, perhaps we could trade DeAngelo Hall to the Raiders for Darren McFadden.

What? He'd probably go for it... 8-[

VetSkinsFan · Post by **VetSkinsFan** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:40 pm

BnGhog wrote:
jmooney wrote:[quoteStart Sellers at RB, he may only have 2 forward gears but he has no reverse and he blocks better than the other 2.

We dont need LB's in JC's face all night again this week.

I agree with you %100. I know we did have a backup FB on the roster, I don't know if we still do. But we all know what Sellers can do.

Brandon Jacobs ran all over Dallas, so can Sellers. Sellers is almost as agile and as fast as Jacobs.

Its simple, you have him line up at TE, then move to Single back, snap the ball, and punch Dallas in mouth on the first play of the game.

Just use him in the first half of the first quarter and see what happens. Then hit them with Sellers again in the second half.

Sellers has more catches than carries in his career:
Carries
41 135 3.3 15 3

Catches:
75 587 7.8 33 15

With huge amount of carries(the most he's had in one year is 26), how exactly do we know what he's capable of as a RB?

DaRealistJoka · Post by **DaRealistJoka** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:41 pm

Question did Zorn confirm this story of a grade 2 MCL sprain, because they should have already ruled Portis out because it is impossible to play on a grade 2 sprain because that is a partial tear of that ligament. I just hope Portis is blowin smoke.

Kearney420 · Post by **Kearney420** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:59 pm

Just saw this from KFFL:

Portis has sprained MCL

Ryan O'Halloran, of The Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins RB Clinton Portis (knee) sustained a second-degree sprain of the medial collateral ligament in his right knee during the team's Week 9 loss. Portis said he "can't straighten" his knee out, but he is hopeful of playing this season. Head coach Jim Zorn said there is a 75% chance that Portis is done for the year.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:04 pm

Head coach Jim Zorn said there is a 75% chance that Portis is done for the year.

This just keeps getting worse.

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:10 pm

JSPB22 wrote:
Head coach Jim Zorn said there is a 75% chance that Portis is done for the year.

This just keeps getting worse.

Assuming it's true, I've not seen it anywhere else, I have seen speculation that he could miss up to a month, however, which is not uncommon with his type of injury.

cleg · Post by **cleg** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:10 pm

Kearney420 wrote:Just saw this from KFFL:

Portis has sprained MCL

Ryan O'Halloran, of The Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins RB Clinton Portis (knee) sustained a second-degree sprain of the medial collateral ligament in his right knee during the team's Week 9 loss. Portis said he "can't straighten" his knee out, but he is hopeful of playing this season. Head coach Jim Zorn said there is a 75% chance that Portis is done for the year.

I went to the Washington Times and could not find this information. Is there a link?

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:13 pm

cleg wrote:
Kearney420 wrote:Just saw this from KFFL:

Portis has sprained MCL

Ryan O'Halloran, of The Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins RB Clinton Portis (knee) sustained a second-degree sprain of the medial collateral ligament in his right knee during the team's Week 9 loss. Portis said he "can't straighten" his knee out, but he is hopeful of playing this season. Head coach Jim Zorn said there is a 75% chance that Portis is done for the year.

I went to the Washington Times and could not find this information. Is there a link?

Same here, the Times is reporting the speculation that he could miss 3-4 weeks but there was no mention of the rest of the season quote from Zorn.

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:16 pm

SkinsFreak wrote:umm... I've got an idea...

The Raiders are now in need of a good corner, right?

With the wise ole' Al Davis making such sound business decisions as of late, perhaps we could trade DeAngelo Hall to the Raiders for Darren McFadden.

What? He'd probably go for it...

oneman56 · Post by **oneman56** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:37 pm

this is the absolute worst case scenario for the skins' this year. I really hope this isn't true but unfortunately it seems like it is. W/O Portis and w/o betts we will 1 dimensional and it will make it even easier for teams to take santana moss out of the game.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:49 pm

Fios wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:
Head coach Jim Zorn said there is a 75% chance that Portis is done for the year.

This just keeps getting worse.

Assuming it's true, I've not seen it anywhere else, I have seen speculation that he could miss up to a month, however, which is not uncommon with his type of injury.

Here's what's out on Yahoo today:

Nov 12 Ryan O'Halloran, of The Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins RB Clinton Portis (knee) sustained a second-degree sprain of the medial collateral ligament in his right knee during the team's Week 9 loss. Portis said he "can't straighten" his knee out, but he is hopeful of playing this week. Head coach Jim Zorn said there is a "50-50" chance Portis plays in Week 11. A second-degree sprain of the MCL is an incomplete tear and could require a recovery time of three to four weeks.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/593 ... L4NAn.uLYF

TincoSkin · Post by **TincoSkin** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:49 pm

everybody stop freaking out. we have three remaining backs. one is a little banged up and yes CP is our allstar but we have a healthy (for the first time since he was a killing machine) alexander.

i for one cant wait to see if hes up to the challenge. it will be invigorating if he is. i am excited to see if our team is championship quality. the kind of team that can fight through adversity.

can we overcome an injury to one player? yes and here is why. our D is finally all healthy plus we have a new probowl man in the secondary. dallas has a crappy O line and we have carter and the best lineman to ever dance on national television. we have a killer secondary (4 first round draft picks) and a qb who is having a career season.

i think the cowgirls are going to be over confident and we are going to play hard core D, ie multiple turnovers, and a west cost O with surprising play from alexander.

No more negative talk!!

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!!

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:53 pm

TincoSkin wrote:everybody stop freaking out. we have three remaining backs. one is a little banged up and yes CP is our allstar but we have a healthy (for the first time since he was a killing machine) alexander.

i for one cant wait to see if hes up to the challenge. it will be invigorating if he is. i am excited to see if our team is championship quality. the kind of team that can fight through adversity.

can we overcome an injury to one player? yes and here is why. our D is finally all healthy plus we have a new probowl man in the secondary. dallas has a crappy O line and we have carter and the best lineman to ever dance on national television. we have a killer secondary (4 first round draft picks) and a qb who is having a career season.

i think the cowgirls are going to be over confident and we are going to play hard core D, ie multiple turnovers, and a west cost O with surprising play from alexander.

No more negative talk!!

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!!

I hope your right my friend but in the meantime, I'll continue to [-o<

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:54 pm

Also, the bye week was week one of his recovery, so that means two to three more weeks. I feel better now.

cleg · Post by **cleg** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:13 pm

Is Betts back for sure? If so between he, Rock and Alexander it should take enough pressure off J. Camp and the O. I hope so anyway.

VetSkinsFan · Post by **VetSkinsFan** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:59 pm

Betts won't be 100% this week.

Remember what Betts did for us last time, as I previously stated. If Betts is gtg on the health and only needs the conditioning, we could be okay. The largest part of this loss of CP (if it happens) is that noone can block even remotely as well in the backfield as CP. I think Alexander can catch out of the backfield for CP. Betts, when he's back to 10)%, can run for CP. It's the blocking we don't have the replacement for.

spudstr04 · Post by **spudstr04** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:07 pm

Can we go 4-3 without Portis? That is the main question headed into the 2nd half. If we can get to 10-6, we should be in the playoffs. If Betts can come back healthy and hold onto the ball, then I can easily see us going 4-3. I think we'll beat the Seahawks, 49ers, Bengals. So that leaves us with the Giants, Ravens, Cowboys, and the Eagles to get 1 win over.

I don't think that Romo is fully ready to play and hopefully that shows in Sunday's game. I see him throwing a couple of picks. Our pass rush has actually been better without J-Taylor the past 2 weeks, so may be we can get to Mr. Romo and make him make some mistakes.

I think the Giants are real good, but they are beatable...the Browns proved that.

I think the Eagles are better than their record, but they are 0-3 vs. the NFC East and if they don't pull it together fast, they'll be eating scraps at the bottom of the pile with the Cowboys. Brian Westbrook isn't 100% and is averaging less than 4 yards a carry (his worst total in his career)

The Ravens are sneaky good and have put up big numbers in the past 4 weeks, but look who they played...Dolphins, Raiders, Browns, and the Texans. If they can put up a strong effort against the NY Giants, then I might consider them a playoff contender.

After looking at our schedule in the last games. Here's how I see it:

Cowboys - Win
Seahawks - Win
Giants - Loss
Ravens - Win
Bengals - Win
Eagles - Loss
49ers - Win

So that's 5-2 with a overall record of 11-5. I know that it's easy to sit here on my bed and pick easy games and hard games, but I really think we can make the playoffs and go deep without Portis.

Hopefully, Portis will take off the next 2-3 weeks and be ready for the playoff push. I think a 80-90% Betts can help the Skins maintain a decent running game. At least enough to keep the D off of Campbell's back. I like the idea that some of you are saying about giving the ball to Mike Sellers some. He really hasn't been used at all, despite constantly asking Zorn.

I really just hope that Jason Taylor smashes Romo's hand.

MDSKINSFAN · Post by **MDSKINSFAN** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:57 pm

On a positive note at least Betts is starting to practice

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:01 pm

TRADE BETTS NOW

spudstr04 · Post by **spudstr04** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:11 pm

Fios wrote:TRADE BETTS NOW

huh?

chiefhog44 · Post by **chiefhog44** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:21 pm

spudstr04 wrote:Can we go 4-3 without Portis? That is the main question headed into the 2nd half. If we can get to 10-6, we should be in the playoffs. If Betts can come back healthy and hold onto the ball, then I can easily see us going 4-3. I think we'll beat the Seahawks, 49ers, Bengals. So that leaves us with the Giants, Ravens, Cowboys, and the Eagles to get 1 win over.

I don't think that Romo is fully ready to play and hopefully that shows in Sunday's game. I see him throwing a couple of picks. Our pass rush has actually been better without J-Taylor the past 2 weeks, so may be we can get to Mr. Romo and make him make some mistakes.

I think the Giants are real good, but they are beatable...the Browns proved that.

I think the Eagles are better than their record, but they are 0-3 vs. the NFC East and if they don't pull it together fast, they'll be eating scraps at the bottom of the pile with the Cowboys. Brian Westbrook isn't 100% and is averaging less than 4 yards a carry (his worst total in his career)

The Ravens are sneaky good and have put up big numbers in the past 4 weeks, but look who they played...Dolphins, Raiders, Browns, and the Texans. If they can put up a strong effort against the NY Giants, then I might consider them a playoff contender.

After looking at our schedule in the last games. Here's how I see it:

Cowboys - Win
Seahawks - Win
Giants - Loss
Ravens - Win
Bengals - Win
Eagles - Loss
49ers - Win

So that's 5-2 with a overall record of 11-5. I know that it's easy to sit here on my bed and pick easy games and hard games, but I really think we can make the playoffs and go deep without Portis.

Hopefully, Portis will take off the next 2-3 weeks and be ready for the playoff push. I think a 80-90% Betts can help the Skins maintain a decent running game. At least enough to keep the D off of Campbell's back. I like the idea that some of you are saying about giving the ball to Mike Sellers some. He really hasn't been used at all, despite constantly asking Zorn.

I really just hope that Jason Taylor smashes Romo's hand.

I think we have to be 11-5 at the end of it. We have to be 2-2 from the following games...Cowboys, Giants, Eagles, and Ravens. We have to go 3-0 against Seahawks (which is going to be a tough game in my opinion with Hasselback back), San Fran, and the Bungles.

Look at the remaining games that Tampa and Atlanta have. They both have an easier upcoming schedule in my opinion.

cleg · Post by **cleg** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:01 am

The wagles are not better than their record. They have been a mediocre team since the SB loss and worse than mediocre when McNab is QB. It is 2008 people, not 2003. The world and the NFC is better now and the Eagles have not caught up.

That said we need 11 wins to get in the playoffs - not because of the Eagles but the damn NFC Redneck. Those teams are good. If CP is out 11 wins will be tough. Couple that with the mediocre play of the last few weeks and there is reason for concern. No matter what happens this season has been more exciting than I could have hoped for.

rbrhett · Post by **rbrhett** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:25 am

cleg wrote:The wagles are not better than their record. They have been a mediocre team since the SB loss and worse than mediocre when McNab is QB. It is 2008 people, not 2003. The world and the NFC is better now and the Eagles have not caught up.

That said we need 11 wins to get in the playoffs - not because of the Eagles but the damn NFC Redneck. Those teams are good. If CP is out 11 wins will be tough. Couple that with the mediocre play of the last few weeks and there is reason for concern. No matter what happens this season has been more exciting than I could have hoped for.

Um, you do know that two teams in the NFC East would be considered part of the South right? The Skins and the Cowboys. In fact, MANY people in the South used to root for the Skins before the Falcons and the Panthers. So, in reality, the NFC East is nothing more than the NFC "Redneck" light. You root for a redneck team. Get over it.

From Alabama.

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:52 am

rbrhett wrote:
cleg wrote:The wagles are not better than their record. They have been a mediocre team since the SB loss and worse than mediocre when McNab is QB. It is 2008 people, not 2003. The world and the NFC is better now and the Eagles have not caught up.

That said we need 11 wins to get in the playoffs - not because of the Eagles but the damn NFC Redneck. Those teams are good. If CP is out 11 wins will be tough. Couple that with the mediocre play of the last few weeks and there is reason for concern. No matter what happens this season has been more exciting than I could have hoped for.

Um, you do know that two teams in the NFC East would be considered part of the South right? The Skins and the Cowboys. In fact, MANY people in the South used to root for the Skins before the Falcons and the Panthers. So, in reality, the NFC East is nothing more than the NFC "Redneck" light. You root for a redneck team. Get over it.

From Alabama.

Oh my gosh, rednecks rooting for redskins.. awesome!

cleg · Post by **cleg** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:04 am

rbrhett wrote:
cleg wrote:The wagles are not better than their record. They have been a mediocre team since the SB loss and worse than mediocre when McNab is QB. It is 2008 people, not 2003. The world and the NFC is better now and the Eagles have not caught up.

That said we need 11 wins to get in the playoffs - not because of the Eagles but the damn NFC Redneck. Those teams are good. If CP is out 11 wins will be tough. Couple that with the mediocre play of the last few weeks and there is reason for concern. No matter what happens this season has been more exciting than I could have hoped for.

Um, you do know that two teams in the NFC East would be considered part of the South right? The Skins and the Cowboys. In fact, MANY people in the South used to root for the Skins before the Falcons and the Panthers. So, in reality, the NFC East is nothing more than the NFC "Redneck" light. You root for a redneck team. Get over it.

From Alabama.

Dude, relax - I lived for 10 years in Birmingham and Atlanta. I love the redneck states.