ESPN Rankings

gambit187 · Post by **gambit187** » Wed May 05, 2004 2:39 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking

Eagles 2
Boys 15
Skins 18

Brandon777 · Post by **Brandon777** » Wed May 05, 2004 2:55 pm

gambit187 wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking

Eagles 2
Boys 15
Skins 18

This is BS. Don't buy anything into it. Don't you remember this being posted a few weeks ago? They had the Redskins at #3, Patriots #2 and the Eagles #1. Dallas was #7 I believe. It changed all the time.

SKINS#1 · Post by **SKINS#1** » Wed May 05, 2004 3:06 pm

WHAT'S THE POINT - IF YOU BELIEVE THESE POLLS "THE BOYS" ARE HEADED SOUTH MOVING FROM 11 IN '03 TO 15 IN '04. HOW SWEET IT IS!!!!!

THE REDSKINS POLL WILL BE MEASURED BY 2004 W and L.

daddywatson · Post by **daddywatson** » Wed May 05, 2004 3:26 pm

Gambit187 wrote:

Eagles 2
Boys 15
Skins 18

Oh come on now Gambit, You lead us to believe that with all your "knowledge", "contacts" and "savvy"... that you believe everything you read? I believe that even the"Big Tuna" is going to be more than a little bit wary of the Burgandy and Gold this year!!!

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Wed May 05, 2004 3:31 pm

This is BS. Don't buy anything into it. Don't you remember this being posted a few weeks ago? They had the Redskins at #3, Patriots #2 and the Eagles #1. Dallas was #7 I believe. It changed all the time.

Hmm, wasn't this a different website? (nflthinktank, I believe, or something like it)

As for ESPN's rankings, I'll let them think that. In truth, the Skins haven't proved anything yet, and ESPN traditionally clings to the win/loss record a bit too much for ranking (in my opinion). Last year at this time--and all the way up until the first game of the season, I believe--the Raiders were ranked number 2. Sure, no one could really see the problems that made the team as bad as it was; but it still serves to discredit what it is that those "experts" think [*cough* Pasta-reli *cough* Bias! *cough*], again, in my humble opinion.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Wed May 05, 2004 4:13 pm

It's May....

Hardly the time to talk about power rankings. But, they DO have to get paid for SOMETHING.

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Wed May 05, 2004 4:23 pm

these pre-season polls are a joke....these jokers don't have a clue this early who the powers will be next season

chicosbailbond · Post by **chicosbailbond** » Thu May 06, 2004 6:54 am

leave the rankings for college...

just watch the standings...once the season starts..

preseason polls are stupid any... for instance look at college... they have the University of GA in the top 5 every year... b/c of their recruiting classes... but they always finish somewhere between 15-20....

gambit187 · Post by **gambit187** » Thu May 06, 2004 8:16 am

See this is why i love this board.

A redskin fan can post a rating site that shows the redskins rank very high and the cowboys rank very low, and everyone gets happy and starts beating there chest. But when i post something from ESPN which probally has alittle bit more credibility then nflthinktank.com you guys chastise me like my name was OJ or Bin Laden.......you guys make me smile.

surferskin · Post by **surferskin** » Thu May 06, 2004 8:21 am

this list also put the falcons in the top ten...that speaks volumes

oafusp · Post by **oafusp** » Thu May 06, 2004 11:27 am

gambit187 wrote: Hey guys, look how smart I am
1+1=5, abcdefhjklioptuz....ahhhh nevermind!!!

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Thu May 06, 2004 11:34 am

gambit187 wrote:See this is why i love this board.

A redskin fan can post a rating site that shows the redskins rank very high and the cowboys rank very low, and everyone gets happy and starts beating there chest. But when i post something from ESPN which probally has alittle bit more credibility then nflthinktank.com you guys chastise me like my name was OJ or Bin Laden.......you guys make me smile.

Dah...it's a Redskin board. I'm sure OJ and Bin Laden are puke fans anyhow.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Thu May 06, 2004 11:48 am

The Cowboys are in for a big drop this season. The only team worse than them will be the Giants.

gambit187 · Post by **gambit187** » Thu May 06, 2004 12:15 pm

riggofan wrote:The Cowboys are in for a big drop this season. The only team worse than them will be the Giants.

And your logic and reasoing for reasoing for this is what, because u are a skin fan and you want so desperatly to beat us.

redskinz4ever · Post by **redskinz4ever** » Thu May 06, 2004 12:35 pm

no one can argue... that as much as it hurts me to say this the cowboys no matter who there Q.B. is or R.B. or anyone else for that matter is even on the roster.as long as bill parcells is the coach they will be a good football team.no i'am not kissing up to gambit,i just call em' like i see em'.so kid your self all you want the cowboy will be in the thick of things right along with the eagles and the SKINS as the giants start collecting dust at the bottom of the cellar.REDSKINZ4EVER!!!!

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Thu May 06, 2004 12:40 pm

personally, I scoffed at the rating scale that had us in the top 5...

I think it was neat to finally get some respect, no matter how silly it really was.

However, I don't think the Cowboys are better than us, and now that we are using the blitzing, aggressive defense that many of the top defensively rated teams are using as well as having a proven runner with a proven coaching staff to back up Ramsey/Brunell and our WR corps... I think we are probably top 15 material.

The only real hole I see, and it is only my opinion looking from the outside in is the defensive line, which may be addressed post June 1st, or Williams may have an idea to use a smaller stunting DL to create blitz lanes.

I don't believe the Eagles are going to do as well this year with the losses on their defensive side, but I think the Skins, Giants and Cowboys will do fairly well this year under their coaching staffs.

The Giants were hurt by the injury bug last year, but overall have a decent team. The addition of Manning won't hurt them as much as people think, but their lack of OL will keep them from being a contender. Some losses on defense, like Barrow, won't help either.

The Cowboys still haven't addressed a few issues, such as QB solution for this year, the RB solution has question marks, and their WR corps gained a possession style receiver and lost a ton of speed. Their OL isn't getting better....

I still see the division as being anyone's race, with teams mostly splitting the intra division games - in fact it wouldn't surprise me to see all of the teams going 3-3 in the division.

With the Skins schedule, we have a serious chance at 9-7 or 10-6, as do all the other teams in the division. It could be a rat race at the end...

I would love to see the Skins be the class of the East again... and it is possible under Joe and his very talented staff. I am just not counting on it.

Gambit - even though you are a Puke, I like ya... but sometimes when you ask something like this and someone provides you with reasoning (albeit biased) you don't reply.

So, I have provided you with reasoning here... I do believe that our team is better this year, by far, with the addition of talent and especially a totally dedicated staff. You know the difference staff can make - you can't deny it - Parcells took almost the same team that went 5-11 to a 10-6 record.

I don't believe that there will be a "basement" in the NFC East this year, not by the common definition of where the Giants and Skins ended up - at 5-11 or worse. I do believe with the changes we have seen that we might be seeing a division this year with 8-8 being the bottom of the barrel... just like the good old days.

I don't agree that the Pukes will suck... Parcells is a good coach... but I certainly repudiate any claim on your part that the Skins will be terrible again this year, especially when people who are biased against us are grading us with an obvious bias in their eyes...

silent1903 · Post by **silent1903** » Thu May 06, 2004 2:19 pm

gambit187 wrote:See this is why i love this board.

A redskin fan can post a rating site that shows the redskins rank very high and the cowboys rank very low, and everyone gets happy and starts beating there chest. But when i post something from ESPN which probally has alittle bit more credibility then nflthinktank.com you guys chastise me like my name was OJ or Bin Laden.......you guys make me smile.

I can't believe that anyone bit on Gambit's posting. These rankings, be it nflthinktank or ESPN mean diddly. Personally I hope they rank the girls as high and the Redskins as low as possible, just like girls fans like to do, this year setting themselves up for a bigger fall.

John Manfreda · Post by **John Manfreda** » Thu May 06, 2004 2:44 pm

Gambit you should know the Seahawks can't beat the Panthers. Don't try to deny this isn't bs.

John Manfreda · Post by **John Manfreda** » Thu May 06, 2004 2:46 pm

The Seahawks can't beat the Panthers.

gambit187 · Post by **gambit187** » Thu May 06, 2004 2:46 pm

silent1903 wrote:
gambit187 wrote:See this is why i love this board.

A redskin fan can post a rating site that shows the redskins rank very high and the cowboys rank very low, and everyone gets happy and starts beating there chest. But when i post something from ESPN which probally has alittle bit more credibility then nflthinktank.com you guys chastise me like my name was OJ or Bin Laden.......you guys make me smile.

I can't believe that anyone bit on Gambit's posting. These rankings, be it nflthinktank or ESPN mean diddly. Personally I hope they rank the girls as high and the Redskins as low as possible, just like girls fans like to do, this year setting themselves up for a bigger fall.

You kinda got the intent of it Silent1903, i posted it not to prove a point that we are better then yall, but to see what kinda of responses i would get from others. Thats why i threw in that nflthinktank thing.

Brandon777 · Post by **Brandon777** » Thu May 06, 2004 8:44 pm

FanfromAnnapolis wrote:
This is BS. Don't buy anything into it. Don't you remember this being posted a few weeks ago? They had the Redskins at #3, Patriots #2 and the Eagles #1. Dallas was #7 I believe. It changed all the time.

Hmm, wasn't this a different website? (nflthinktank, I believe, or something like it)

As for ESPN's rankings, I'll let them think that. In truth, the Skins haven't proved anything yet, and ESPN traditionally clings to the win/loss record a bit too much for ranking (in my opinion). Last year at this time--and all the way up until the first game of the season, I believe--the Raiders were ranked number 2. Sure, no one could really see the problems that made the team as bad as it was; but it still serves to discredit what it is that those "experts" think [*cough* Pasta-reli *cough* Bias! *cough*], again, in my humble opinion.

I believe it was the same one. The one I saw, it was on this board awhile back. It looked the same to me. I'm pretty sure it was the same one. Oh well, maybe not.

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