P-Ram vs Brunell

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:20 pm

I got a tip from an inside source that Gibbs loves Ramsey and that the QB decision will have little to do with the two QB's and everything to do with the O-Line. This person was told by coach Gibbs himself that he loves the way he can take a beating and keep competing but that he doesn't like him getting beat up. The talk around the park is that if the O-Line is protecting the QB well, Ramsey will likely get the nod. If not, Brunell will likely get the nod to teach P_Ram how to avoid the rush and not take sacks until either he learns or the o-line gets better.

NC43Hog · Post by **NC43Hog** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:29 pm

P-Ram needs to learn to get rid of the ball quicker - but the new offense schemes should help with that and the line can't help but be better with the Buges directing it.

NikiH · Post by **NikiH** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:42 pm

I hope this is correct info. I want to see Patrick be the star.

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:10 pm

JansenFan wrote:I got a tip from an inside source that Gibbs loves Ramsey and that the QB decision will have little to do with the two QB's and everything to do with the O-Line.

You can thank me later... I have to get back to work... :lol:

SkinsHead56 · Post by **SkinsHead56** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:21 pm

From a loalty stand point I want Patrick to win the job and become the star that he has shown flashes of. On the other hand Brunell is a local boy from Santa Maria. Bottom line I just want our team to win. With two QBs that have shown potential and have proven they can play it's win win for the fans.

DieselFan · Post by **DieselFan** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:29 pm

I have an inside source that tells me that inside sources are always B.S.

It's an open competition, fellas. If the o-line protects ramsey, it's going to protect brunell too. Therefore, whoever is the best for the job will start.

I hope I'm not bursting any bubbles here.

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:34 pm

The problem with this is that we will never know the reasonig behind Coach Gibbs' decision. But my inside source has been fairly accurate when he does volunteer information.

GibbSkins · Post by **GibbSkins** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 3:14 pm

p-ram is a gibbs type guy...and what jansenfan says is exactly what ive been thinking gibbs will do...its all up to the O-line...Gibbs wont let P-ram get beat up like spurrier did..ramsey is our future and gibbs knows that and likes that...hes a tough, hard working, smart young man...bringing brunell in, in hind sight i think was a great move..now ramsey has to compete with a bona'fide great Qb and this will make ramsey 10 time better!!!!

ChillWill · Post by **ChillWill** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:34 pm

WTEM reports that Patricks first pass during minicamp II was an interception.

SkinsHead56 · Post by **SkinsHead56** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:37 pm

Did Sean Taylor pick that one?

ChillWill · Post by **ChillWill** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:43 pm

No reports on who made the pick. I would love for it to be S. Taylor. Maybe one our other new CBs.

NikiH · Post by **NikiH** » Sat May 01, 2004 12:33 am

Ok in Patrick's defense, they are all in Redskin's jerseys, it's kind of hard to see the forest through the trees, you know????

milkbone · Post by **milkbone** » Sat May 01, 2004 2:48 am

Ramsey has never worked with a decent QB in the NFL. Whether he starts or not, just working with a vet like Brunell can only make him better.

andyjens89 · Post by **andyjens89** » Sat May 01, 2004 8:39 am

SkinsHead56 wrote:Did Sean Taylor pick that one?

no, it was iffy :mrgreen:

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Sat May 01, 2004 10:45 am

LOL - you guys do realize that Taylor is gonna have to earn that spot and that if Iffy learns it, and is better than you think, he may beat out Taylor....

Slight chance... but still there

skinsfanno9 · Post by **skinsfanno9** » Sat May 01, 2004 4:18 pm

skinsfaninroanoke wrote:LOL - you guys do realize that Taylor is gonna have to earn that spot and that if Iffy learns it, and is better than you think, he may beat out Taylor....

Slight chance... but still there

I dunno. I think Taylor is gonna be in the starting lineup unless he's injured. Yes, Taylor has to "earn" the spot but truly - he'd have to suck hard not to get the nod after being picked in the top 5. The only spot Iffy might get is the Strong Safety.

Steve Spurrier III · Post by **Steve Spurrier III** » Sat May 01, 2004 5:52 pm

Am I completley wrong in thinking that Taylor is competing with Matt Bowen and not Ohalete? Taylor plays free saftey (previously held by Bowen), while Ohalete is the incumbent strong saftey. Am I missing something?

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Sat May 01, 2004 6:34 pm

he is competing with Ohalete for Free Safety, while Bowen is supposedly moving back to strong safety where he has played since his first collegiate days.

I think...

Steve Spurrier III · Post by **Steve Spurrier III** » Sat May 01, 2004 6:45 pm

Bowen and Ohalete are just randomly switching positions? Why?

Insano Hog · Post by **Insano Hog** » Sat May 01, 2004 9:50 pm

Well apparently Bowen has played SS previously in some stage of his career and appears to be his more natural position.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Sun May 02, 2004 9:14 am

i think it will come down to the contracts. bowen is here for another four years. i assume taylor will get a 5-6 year deal, while iffy is on a one year tender. i would assume that the coaches will try to form some type of on-going chemestry with bowen and taylor.

SkinsHead56 · Post by **SkinsHead56** » Sun May 02, 2004 9:14 am

skinsfaninroanoke wrote:LOL - you guys do realize that Taylor is gonna have to earn that spot and that if Iffy learns it, and is better than you think, he may beat out Taylor....

Slight chance... but still there

I love Iffy. I hope he makes Taylor bust his :moon:

in order to win the job. The plan is brilliant. Make the young bucks compete with proven players in order to improve not only your starters but the reserves as well.

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Sun May 02, 2004 9:19 am

everyone - Iffy isn't going anywhere - even if they have upgraded - which isn't proven yet though it will be - they need depth there too. You don't go into a game on Sundays with just two freaking safeties.

Whatever your feelings about Iffy, you don't probably want Andre Lott or Franz being the backups...

SkinsHead56 · Post by **SkinsHead56** » Sun May 02, 2004 9:24 am

Steve Spurrier III wrote:Bowen and Ohalete are just randomly switching positions? Why?

I think it only seems that way because of the goofy scheme last year :hmm:

. Technically Iffy played SS while Bowen played FS. Bowen is moving to SS because he is not as accomplished in coverage as he is at knocking the snot of WRs. Taylor will battle Iffy for FS. I hope Iffy give Sean a run for his money so to speak. In the end Taylor is an undeniable talent who will most likely win the job.

SkinsHead56 · Post by **SkinsHead56** » Sun May 02, 2004 9:26 am

skinsfaninroanoke wrote:Whatever your feelings about Iffy, you don't probably want Andre Lott or Franz being the backups...

New topic: Open competition.

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