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And the cancer begins to spread again:

Sources: Dallas Cowboys' Owens complained to Romo
01:48 AM CDT on Tuesday, September 30, 2008

By CALVIN WATKINS / The Dallas Morning News
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IRVING – Terrell Owens' frustration with the Dallas Cowboys offense carried over from the field to the locker room Sunday.

Owens, despite having 18 passes thrown his way in the loss to Washington, had what was deemed a serious conversation about the offense with quarterback Tony Romo after the game, according to multiple sources.

The types of routes and throws are what concerns Owens, the sources said. The receiver, who the sources said was venting to Romo about his frustrations, has not liked how some of the throws were coming from the quarterback as far back as the season opener.

But Owens said Sunday he is still confident in Romo.

In the loss to the Redskins, Owens finished with seven catches for 71 yards and one touchdown.

"There were some opportunities there, and there were some opportunities there where they were holding and the refs just didn't call it," Owens said after the game. "You can't blame the refs; we just didn't make the plays."

Owens didn't talk to reporters Monday when he slipped into the locker room near lunch time.

Owens is tied for 26th in the NFL this season with 17 receptions, and he's 15th with 264 receiving yards.

He wants better numbers and is frustrated with his lack of touches, especially in the deep passing game, he has said. Defenses are covering Owens with a cornerback underneath and with a safety 15 to 20 yards away from the line of scrimmage to prevent the Cowboys from throwing deep to him.

Owens likes to go deep. Three of his first eight receptions of the season were for 20 or more yards. But he hasn't caught a pass for more than 20 yards the last two games.

"Man, like I said, the dude's a competitor," receiver Patrick Crayton said of Owens. "Any competitor in this league, a receiver, running back, quarterback – whatever the situation is – if you don't want the ball, what are you playing that position for?"

Following Sunday's game, Owens said he didn't think he got the ball enough.

Coach Wade Phillips said he's not concerned about Owens' comments regarding his role.

"We have quite a few good players," Phillips said. "We didn't get the ball to Marion Barber. We didn't get the ball enough to Terrell last game. It's a good problem to have, but we need to be able to rectify it by controlling the ball more. Making more first downs, having longer drives – those kinds of things to help everybody get the ball."

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Just got back from Dallas!! I heard it all after the game...the refs...coaching...he missed the field goal...blah. blah ,blah..
Nothing more fun than being there when we beat them in that God Awful Stadium...For the record...I'm 2-0 down there!!
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DEHog wrote:Just got back from Dallas!! I heard it all after the game...the refs...coaching...he missed the field goal...blah. blah ,blah..
Nothing more fun than being there when we beat them in that God Awful Stadium...For the record...I'm 2-0 down there!!


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I saw this article in the DMN on Sunday morning funny story!!

Stephen Jones and his family spent a pleasant evening at the Aspen home of Dan Snyder a few years ago. Once Jones returned home, he realized he had left his cellphone.

No problem, Snyder said. Jones could have one of the kids come by and pick it up. The moment Jones' nephew returned and put the phone in his hand, it rang.

"It was this God-awful song," Jones said.

It was "Hail to the Redskins." Snyder's oldest daughter downloaded the ring tone for the Cowboys' executive vice president.


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DEHog wrote:I saw this article in the DMN on Sunday morning funny story!!

Stephen Jones and his family spent a pleasant evening at the Aspen home of Dan Snyder a few years ago. Once Jones returned home, he realized he had left his cellphone.

No problem, Snyder said. Jones could have one of the kids come by and pick it up. The moment Jones' nephew returned and put the phone in his hand, it rang.

"It was this God-awful song," Jones said.

It was "Hail to the Redskins." Snyder's oldest daughter downloaded the ring tone for the Cowboys' executive vice president.


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Great prank. Too bad it wasn't Jerry Jones' phone, though. :lol:
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Eagles seem delusional in loss to Redskins

By LES BOWEN
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HEY, 2007 CALLED. It wants its Eagles back.

Here we go again. All the traits that led to last season's frustrating last-place finish in the NFC East staged a little reunion yesterday at Lincoln Financial Field, adding a nostalgic touch to the Eagles' 23-17 loss to the Washington Redskins.

Uninspiring, struggling quarterback play - check.

Unbalanced, eminently second-guessable playcalling - check.

Repeated defensive lapses on third down - check.

Wideouts who couldn't get open or couldn't catch - check.

Poor 2-minute drill at the close of a half, boosting the opposition - check.

Confused bumbling at a critical moment late in the game - check.

And, best of all, everyone's favorite characteristic of that 8-8 team last season made a postgame appearance: The widespread delusion in the locker room that the Eagles were somehow the better team, despite having lost in a fairly convincing manner.

"Not taking anything away from them, but there is no way this team is better than us," Donovan McNabb said, after the Redskins (4-1) ran for 203 yards to 58 for the Eagles (2-3), outgained the Eagles 388 total yards to 254, piled up 22 first downs to the Eagles' 14, continued their streak of no offensive turnovers in 2008, and converted 10 of their final 15 third downs, after starting out 1-for-4, while the Eagles managed all of three first downs, total, after the first quarter.

After some trick plays and a 68-yard punt return touchdown from DeSean Jackson helped put the Birds up 14-0 at the end of the opening quarter, the Redskins were decisively the better team. Listeners to his postgame news conference found it difficult to fathom what game McNabb was watching; this was not much like the previous week's loss, a giveaway in Chicago, in which the Eagles were missing Brian Westbrook. Washington took this game, at least as much as the Eagles gave it.

Make no mistake: Jim Zorn was the better coach at the Linc yesterday, Jason Campbell was the more effective quarterback, and Clinton Portis was the best running back.

"It was embarrassing, these last 2 weeks. They're two teams we should not have lost to," McNabb said, lumping the Redskins in with the mistake-prone Bears, who turned the ball over four times, or four times more than the Redskins have this season. "It's what we didn't do - not what they did, but what we didn't do."

Defensive end Trent Cole, who said he never would have envisioned a team running for 203 yards on what had been the best run defense in the NFL, added: "It's embarrassing. We know we're a great team, and we have to go out there and show it. We didn't come out here today and show it."

"When you make mistakes and you don't capitalize on opportunities, things like this happen," said McNabb, who tried to audible out of a third-and-1 play at Washington's 2 midway through the fourth quarter, the Eagles trailing, 23-14.

Nobody ever gave a coherent explanation of exactly what happened, but apparently the call from the bench was a running play to the right. The tight end, apparently L.J. Smith, lined up on the left, making that the strong side. McNabb was distracted by the play clock, which erroneously was ticking down to zero as he approached the line, but as McNabb started to signal for time, Westbrook pointed to the clock resetting, and McNabb went back to calling signals. Then, noting the wrong alignment, McNabb tried to audible to a Westbrook run, to the left side. By the time the ball was finally snapped, the Redskins seemed pretty darned ready, and the blockers seemed confused. Westbrook was swarmed for a 3-yard loss.

"I didn't see any opening there," said Westbrook, who, sore ankle and all, helped author a dazzling, 80-yard opening drive, which ended with him scampering right up the middle for a 9-yard TD. It was his longest run of the day; Westbrook (12 carries, 33 yards, six catches for 51 yards) suffered a bruised rib, left briefly, and found little room when he returned, after taking a numbing injection. He said he would probably get his ribs MRI'd today.

"I think, when the play came in, it was a little miscommunication," Westbrook said.

The Eagles settled for a 23-yard David Akers field goal that ended up setting the final score. They now have four offensive touchdowns in their last three games, after scoring eight the first 2 weeks of the season.

Someone asked Andy Reid yesterday if he still thought this group could be the team the Eagles thought they were when the season started, or even 2 weeks ago, after they outlasted the Steelers.

"Yes, but we need to change this thing around, obviously," the coach said. "The last 2 weeks haven't been good weeks."

It shouldn't have had anything to do with the way the game was played in the trenches, but it almost seemed the game turned when Akers missed a 50-yard field goal that would have given the Eagles a 17-0 lead. It was wide right, as most of his misses - that's nine in a row now from 45 yards or farther - have been.

Just like the Bears last week, the Redskins used the short field to their advantage, driving for a 41-yard Shaun Suisham field goal, the first of three in a row Suisham hit to get Washington back into the game. The exchange of a miss for a make felt like a six-point swing.

The swing really picked up momentum near the end of the first half. The Eagles got it at their 40, 1:56 left in the half, up 14-6. Right away, they got called for an illegal snap - presumably, center Jamaal Jackson stood up before propelling the ball back to McNabb. First-and-15 from the 35, McNabb's pass was blocked by defensive end Andre Carter. Second-and-15, the Eagles ran an awkward-looking, no-shot draw play on which Westbrook was swarmed after it took McNabb about half an hour to hand him the ball. Third-and-15, a 7-yard pass play to Westbrook, after which the Redskins declined a holding penalty.

They punted it back with 1:04 left, leaving the Redskins time to drive 50 yards in 53 seconds - aided by the Eagles calling timeout before one early third-and-3 in hopes of getting the ball back. The Redskins closed the half with Suisham hitting from 50, through the same uprights Akers earlier couldn't split from the same distance.

When the Birds punted the ball back with 2:08 left in the third, they hadn't managed a first down since their first play of the second quarter. The offense spent long stretches on the sideline, as Washington ate up yards and minutes with its effective running and short passing game.

Not surprisingly, the Eagles' defense wore down. The touchdown that put the Redskins ahead, the 18-yard Antwaan Randle El option pass to Chris Cooley midway through the third quarter, was the first TD the Birds had allowed at the Linc since the third quarter of the loss to the Giants back on Dec. 9 last year. It was the only touchdown pass of the day, by either team.

"They played a physical game," said Eagles middle linebacker Stewart Bradley, who was fooled on the Randle El pass and was a couple of steps behind Cooley when he caught the ball. "They dominated the line of scrimmage, ran the ball well."

The Redskins converted third-and-9 three times in the final half; the Birds, who got their only sack early, from Brian Dawkins, couldn't get to Campbell and couldn't cover the middle of the field, where both offenses set up shop.

Of Washington's 17 completions for 194 yards, nine were to tight ends (for 112 yards) and three more were to backs, for 20 yards, which left them with 62 yards' worth of completions to their wideouts, much of that on wide-receiver screens. Santana Moss was shut out, but it didn't matter; Portis ran for 145 yards on 29 carries, and the Eagles couldn't get the ball outside either, though McNabb was never sacked, and seemed to have time on most throws. Jackson caught one pass for 8 yards, a career low for the blazing rookie.

"Nothing fancy," Eagles defensive coordinator Jim Johnson said. "They blocked us. We couldn't get off blocks . . . A lot of times we had an eight-man front and we didn't do a good job with it."

"Early on, we had a lot of energy," said Reggie Brown, who caught four passes for 84 yards. "We were executing, we were doing things right, we were making plays. I don't know where that went . . . I think they were pretty consistent in what they did, throughout the game. They didn't really show us anything we couldn't handle. They're a good defense, but we just weren't connecting."

It can get late early for the only team in the NFC East with more than one loss. The Birds travel to face San Francisco, which also is 2-3, next week. Then they have their bye. Reid is 9-0 the week after the bye, but he has lost six of his last seven going into it. *


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Looks like he was full of poop after the game. Could explain why that crap came out of his mouth. Look at the the white guy's face who is staring at McNabb.
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Geez Cappster, did I miss deadline? No sweat, I'll post another in just a minute.
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JSPB22 wrote:Geez Cappster, did I miss deadline? No sweat, I'll post another in just a minute.


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I was looking forward to seeing this thread resurrected this morning. :twisted:
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McNabb is clearly frustrated with his ability to not win when it counts. Who can blame him?
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From the pages of the Philadelphia Inquirer:

Eagles knocked down by Redskins
By Bob Brookover

Inquirer Staff Writer

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Now the Eagles are standing on a fault line.
There is no way of knowing if the Earth is going to open beneath them and swallow them whole or if they'll still have some nice beachfront property three months from now in their posh NFC East community.

All that's known for sure is that they are the team in their talent-rich division with the least margin for error with 12 weeks remaining on the NFL's regular-season calendar.

The Eagles placed themselves in this precarious position yesterday by squandering an early two-touchdown lead on their way to a 23-17 loss to the surging Washington Redskins at Lincoln Financial Field.

A second straight loss left the last-place Eagles at 2-3 in a division in which the other three teams - the Redskins, New York Giants, and Dallas Cowboys - are a combined 12-2.

"It was going to be a tough fight anyway," veteran Eagles safety Brian Dawkins said. "But we definitely didn't help ourselves out today by allowing the Redskins to do what they did - controlling the ball and controlling the clock and winning this game. We didn't help ourselves out."

All the things you might have thought about the Eagles just two weeks ago after they beat up the Pittsburgh Steelers are now open for debate.

The offense that was so explosive in a win over St. Louis and a loss at Dallas got running back Brian Westbrook back yesterday, but it didn't look any more explosive and wasn't any more effective at picking up one lousy yard near the goal line in the fourth quarter.

The defense, ranked first against the run and third overall coming into the game, was carved up for 203 rushing yards by the Redskins. Clinton Portis (29 carries for 145 yards) did the bulk of the damage.

Special teams provided an early punt return for a touchdown by rookie DeSean Jackson but also allowed the momentum to swing back to the Redskins late in the first quarter when David Akers missed another long field goal.

Afterward, Andy Reid spoke in that language only he seems to truly understand or at least appreciate.

"Obviously, Washington played a better football game than we did," the Eagles' coach said. "I'll tell you that it's my responsibility that we play better. That's absolutely my responsibility. I have to get guys in better positions to make plays and when they're in those positions, we have to make sure that the plays get made."

Quarterback Donovan McNabb was clearly disturbed by the defeat, which saw the offense get just five first downs and three points after the opening quarter.

"I was embarrassed these last two weeks," McNabb said. "I mean, we lost to two teams we shouldn't have lost to. When you make mistakes and you don't capitalize on opportunities, things like this happen.

"Not taking anything away from them, but there is no way that team is better than us. The same went for last week and then you find yourself here wondering why. It's what we didn't do. Not what they did, but what we didn't do."

The list of things the Eagles didn't do was long.

From the end of the first quarter until their final offensive possession, the offense was in hibernation. And when the Eagles finally got things going with a 12-play, 86-yard drive in the final quarter, the result - a 23-yard field goal by Akers - was still disappointing.

The Eagles had a second-and-1 situation from the 2-yard line with just over nine minutes left in the game. After Westbrook failed to pick up any yardage on second down, confusion ensued on third down.

McNabb started to signal for a time-out because he thought the play clock was going to expire. Alerted that the play clock had been reset to 15 seconds, the quarterback called an audible at the line of scrimmage.

Westbrook said he thought the original play could have worked, but he didn't dismiss McNabb's audible as a bad play call.

"I think when the play came in, there was a little miscommunication," Westbrook said. "We didn't execute the play very well."

That much was obvious. Westbrook was stopped for a 3-yard loss by defensive end Andre Carter and the field-goal unit was sent onto the field. Akers' kick made it 23-17, leaving the game in the hands of the Eagles' defense.

More than seven minutes remained and the Eagles had two time-outs and the two-minute warning on their side, but the defense could not give the malfunctioning offense one more chance to win the game.

Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell converted a third-and-4 chance with an 11-yard pass to Antwaan Randle El, then scrambled for 15 yards on a third-and-9 play.

Faced with a fourth and 1 from the Eagles' 38, Redskins rookie coach Jim Zorn gambled and went for it. Portis rewarded him with a 3-yard run that allowed Washington to run out the clock and celebrate its fourth straight win since an opening-night defeat to the unbeaten New York Giants.

"We had the right defense on fourth down," defensive coordinator Jim Johnson said. "We had an eight-man front and two backers blitzing, but [Portis] just kind of bowled us over."

That was just the final failure for the Eagles' defense, which surrendered a season-high 388 yards and 22 first downs while also allowing the Redskins to convert 11 of 19 third downs.

"We can't get in a hole in this division because there are so many talented teams, once you start to slide downhill, it's a mudslide after that and you get covered up," wide receiver Reggie Brown said.

Next stop is San Francisco, an appropriate location for a team standing on a fault line.

"I think it's very important that we get a win next week." Brown said. "I think everybody knows that we need to get a win."

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McNabb is the only one here in Philly that thinks they were the better team. The Iggle fans have sobered up this morning and are trudging into work fully understanding there team is bad. By lunch they will have moved on to buying flowers and trying to put the pieces of their marrages back together after their shenanagans yesterdays watching the game.
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I don't think they're bad. They just look that way, compared to the rest of the NFC East.
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JSPB22 wrote:I don't think they're bad. They just look that way, compared to the rest of the NFC East.


I don't think anyone thinks the Eagles are a bad team...they're a good team, but it's just pure sore-loser to say:

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BadgerKing wrote:This is becoming my favourite thread...I just love loser papers.

Yes, it's much better when there are posts in this thread EVERY WEEK!!!!
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PulpExposure wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:I don't think they're bad. They just look that way, compared to the rest of the NFC East.


I don't think anyone thinks the Eagles are a bad team...they're a good team, but it's just pure sore-loser to say:

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I'm glad McNabb mouthed off like that. I hope Zorn reminds the troops about it come 12/21, when Philly comes down here. I've had a fair bit of respect for McNabb, but that comment was pretty low. The better team is usually the team with the most points at the end of the game, and it wasn't your Eagles, McNabb.
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I like the fact that the Skins are flat out beating teams and they are still getting no respect from opponents. It should keep them hungry and leave that chip on their shoulder.

You see it in the stupid Power Rankings and from what people say. They are playing very disciplined football as a team, smart football. The talent is adequate to win, period. Anyway, here is the latest knock on the Skins from the Eagles QB:

Quote from Donovan McNabb after loss to Redskins:

"Not to take anything away from them, but there is no way this team is better than us."

Ridiculous statement. This is a team sport and it's obvious who the better team is, at least at this point. I'd take inspiration from this for when the Eagles come to FedEx Field.

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PulpExposure wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:I don't think they're bad. They just look that way, compared to the rest of the NFC East.


I don't think anyone thinks the Eagles are a bad team.

cleg does:

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I disagree, I think the Eagles are a bad team and have thought so for a long time. Andy Reid makes them a bad team because he is unable or unwilling to adapt to the game. His arrogance holds the team back. I actually think he is a better GM than coach because they have talent. But the ownership of the team still feels he is the guy for the job even though they've missed the playoffs two of the last three years and three of the last three with McNab under center. Those years coincide with the reemergence of the NFC and the Eagles have not kept pace.

Whether Danny and Vinny knew it when they hired coach Z but have a guy who is coaching up Gibbs players by adjusting, listening to players and is willing to adapt.

I doubt the Eagles will turn it around this year because of the coaching and the players have proven over the years that they lack the mental fortitude to deal with pressure and I think that is a product of poor coaching.
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Do you think Reid and/or McNabb are out after this season, cleg?
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Irn-Bru wrote:Do you think Reid and/or McNabb are out after this season, cleg?


That would be a bit extreme, at least at this point. Teams like Minny and the Texans would still fall all over themselves to get a QB like McNabb. Reid would also have no problem getting another job in this league.
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Irn-Bru wrote:Do you think Reid and/or McNabb are out after this season, cleg?
I think there is a very good chance both will be gone after this year. But if I had to guess McNab will be gone and the ownership will let Reid rebuild with Kevin Kolb. I personally think the Eagles would have another run with their current squad if they dumped Reid and brought in another coach.
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Mursilis wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:Do you think Reid and/or McNabb are out after this season, cleg?


That would be a bit extreme, at least at this point. Teams like Minny and the Texans would still fall all over themselves to get a QB like McNabb. Reid would also have no problem getting another job in this league.


Maybe I should attach a qualification to this: assuming Philly finishes 8-8 or worse, which looks like a real possibility.
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Birds' Eye View
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UP-DOWN DRILL WEEK 5
Now that the Up-Down Drill is back in the newspaper, you shouldn't have to wait to see it in print. Here's the ups and downs -- mostly downs for the Eagles -- from Washington's 23-17 win today at the Linc.

DOWN

ANDY REID

The head coach said this 2-3 start is his responsibility. It’s his fault, too.

UP

JIM ZORN

The Redskins’ rookie head coach has his team flying high with four straight wins since an opening-night loss to the New York Giants.

UP

JASON CAMPBELL

He might be the best quarterback in the NFC East.

DOWN

DONOVAN MCNABB

He might be the fourth best quarterback in the NFC East.

DOWN

BRIAN WESTBROOK

He returned from an ankle injury, but he was the second best running back on the field and suffered a rib contusion.

UP

CLINTON PORTIS

The Redskins’ star running back dispelled the notion that you can’t run against the Eagles.

DOWN

DAVID AKERS

Another 50-yarder, another miss.

UP

SHAUN SUISHAM

Meanwhile, the Redskins’ kicker connected on three field goals from beyond 40 yards, including a 50-yarder just before halftime.

DOWN

CORRELL BUCKHALTER

Westbrook returned to the field and Buckhalter returned to the bench. He carried the football just twice the entire game.

UP

DESEAN JACKSON

When was the last time the Eagles had a rookie this good? The answer may be never, but for some reason the ball was rarely thrown to him after his electrifying punt return put the Eagles up 14-0 in the first quarter.

UP

ANTWAAN RANDLE EL

His career passing stats are 19-for-23 for 264 yards and four touchdowns and that includes the 18-yard TD he threw to Chris Cooley today.

UP

CHRIS COOLEY

Another tight end has a big day against the Eagles. In fact, Cooley, with eight catches for 109 yards and a touchdown, did even more damage that Dallas ’ Jason Witten in that Monday night game.

DOWN

L.J. SMITH

The Eagles went to him twice early in the game, then just once the rest of the game.

DOWN

STEWART BRADLEY

The Eagles’ linebacker lost coverage on Cooley more than once, including on the touchdown pass from Randle El that put the Redskins ahead in the third quarter.

DOWN

TRENT COLE

The Eagles’ defensive end said during the practice week that Redskins offensive tackle Chris Samuels is the best in the business. Cole did nothing to disprove his own theory.

DOWN

TANK DANIELS

The linebacker’s costly penalty at the end of a Randle El punt return gave the Redskins the ball at the Eagles’ 42 and Washington turned its outstanding field position into six points.

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Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.


Hog Bowl IV Champion (2012)

Hail to the Redskins!
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