Brandon Lloyd looking good for the Bears

[Chris Luva Luva]

Keep in mind, Lloyd's limited playing time in DC was less to do with talent or ability and much more to do with a lousy attitude, poor behavior and causing trouble in the locker room and behind the scenes. Throwing your helmet, verbally attacking coaches and staff and giving up on plays when given a chance will not win you points with any coach.

Gibbs was in a tough position, but couldn't reward that kind of behavior as it would set a bad example for the rest of the locker room. Lloyd also had troubles in San Fransisco as well.

Perhaps Lloyd is a bit more matured and realizes this may be his last chance. His successes with the Bears may be evidence of a new attitude, knowing if he fails or gets cut again, it could be all over for him.




Then again, he may have finally realized his rap career was going nowhere, so to keep a roof over his head, needed to earn a paycheck playing football.

I knew the damage control for Gibbs would arrive sooner or later. I simply refuse to believe that Lloyd simply went bonkers for no reason.

I look at Steve Smith that physically beat the brakes off a teammate and is back in action. Gibbs put Lloyd on a two year "time out" cus of a temper tantrum that I'm sure was provoked??!? Give me a break.

Since Gibb's departure you have many offensive players breathing a respectful sigh of relief...

[SkinsFreak]

I knew the damage control for Gibbs would arrive sooner or later. I simply refuse to believe that Lloyd simply went bonkers for no reason.

I doubt it was for no reason either. But as we all know, there is a level of subordination that comes with all jobs. We will never know what really happened, but I refuse to believe that after Gibbs went and got this guy, Gibbs decided not to play him for no reason. Gibbs has dealt with troubled players before, so he does, in fact, have a history of working out problems with troubled players for the sake of the team. Some can say what they want about Joe Gibbs, but no one can deny this is a man of extremely high character.

I look at Steve Smith that physically beat the brakes off a teammate and is back in action. Gibbs put Lloyd on a two year "time out" cus of a temper tantrum that I'm sure was provoked??!? Give me a break.

That was one incident with Smith. Lloyd had a laundry list of incidents and problems with the team. Even though we don't specifically know what happened in each incident, we do know he gave up on plays on the field and we saw the helmet throwing incident on the sideline. That does lend credibility to Gibbs' position. Steve Smith never gives up on plays.

Since Gibb's departure you have many offensive players breathing a respectful sigh of relief...

As much as I love and respect Joe Gibbs, I'm one of the guys breathing a big sigh of relief. I'm extremely happy to get a new coach and a more modern system, so I don't doubt for a minute there are players happy as well.

But all I'm suggesting is that perhaps Lloyd has a new attitude. No one denies the guy has some skills. All I was saying is that the lack of playing time had nothing to do with a lack of talent. I'm sure both Lloyd and Gibbs are not innocent and both share some level of responsibility for what happened in DC.

[gibbs4president]

What other receiver are the Bears going to the throw the ball to? Rashied Davis? Marty Booker?

Lloyd is tied for the team lead in receptions (13) with RB Matt Forte. He also has 216 receiving yards, which is more than double the amount of any else so far on the team.

Besides utilizing Forte and throwing the ball to their two TEs, Desmond Clark and Greg Olsen, the Bears don't have many other options, especially when throwing the ball down the field.

The Redskins had three better options in the passing game when Lloyd was here -- Moss, ey, and Randle El -- and he just never stood up and made a big impact. I give him props for what he's doing with the Bears; he's helping them. But they don't really have that many options at this point. Besides, I'm sure he's still trying to show some people he's not as bad as he was in Washington.

[Chris Luva Luva]

We've all been down this road countless times, there's no need for me to reply to specific parts of posts anymore.

All I know is that he's proving the believers right. The believers that many players were simply mishandled during the past regime, the coaches simply didn't know what to do with the players they had.

Their stats pre-skins prove it...
Their redskin stats prove it...
Their post-skins stats prove it...

[SkinsFreak]

I agree we don't need to rehash this argument again. Each went their separate ways searching for brighter days. Lloyd has a fresh start and a clean slate in Chicago. The Skins also have a fresh start with Zorn, a new offensive philosophy and our recent 2nd round draft picks, all pass catchers.

In my initial post, I was actually trying to pay Lloyd a compliment, in that his talent or abilities was never the issue. So the fact that he's having some level of success with the Bears is not a surprise.

[BearSkins]

A wee article here http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/fo ... ory?page=1

[Deadskins]

Good for him. I hope he does well in Chicago, except when he plays us.

[Chris Luva Luva]

I haven't seen him tonight, has anyone else?

[BearSkins]

Yep.

[Chris Luva Luva]

He's made two very nice grabs thus far. He's hurt now though.

[Chris Luva Luva]

I'm loving Lolovan McLol tonight.

[Chris Luva Luva]

Lolkers just missed his 2nd FG of the night, goooo Iggles! Lolovan looks terrible still.

[JansenFan]

I missed it. What was his injury?

[SkinsJock]

Good for him. I hope he does well in Chicago, except when he plays us.

I agree - I was one that thought he might work out better than he did and am sorry that he did not - no worries.

I also hope that he becomes a great WR for Chicago - why would you hate on someone just because he did not fit in here - we never really know what the circumstances were. There was probably mistakes on both sides but this kid has talent and we did not take full advantage of it, and now he's doing well for the Bears - good luck to him.

[BossHog]

Good for him. I hope he does well in Chicago, except when he plays us.

I agree - I was one that thought he might work out better than he did and am sorry that he did not - no worries.

I also hope that he becomes a great WR for Chicago - why would you hate on someone just because he did not fit in here - we never really know what the circumstances were. There was probably mistakes on both sides but this kid has talent and we did not take full advantage of it, and now he's doing well for the Bears - good luck to him.

Actually, some of us have REPEATEDLY tried to explain some of the misconceptions about Brandon to people and many just choose not to listen. They prefer to think that we don't have a clue what we're talking about instead of admitting that a lot of politics can sometimes be involved in a football organization. We were actually fortunate enough to earn B's full confidence and talk about a lot of things you'll probably never hear us repeat out of respect for B's trust.

And you guys would just believe what you wanted to believe anyway.


I hope B's knee is fine, and he can continue to 'Shine'

[SkinsJock]

I hear you BH! I do remember a number of our THN staff supporting BL and trying to ask some here to be aware that we were not as "informed" as we thought.

I was not trying to aggravate anyone - just stating that I remember thinking that we were lucky to get BL because I had seen some of his athletic ability and was hoping we could take advantage of his vertical receiving talents.

I wish him well - I value the opinions of those who got to know him better and hope things work out for him.