Arrington leads cheers for newly drafted Taylor

ANT7088 · Post by **ANT7088** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:05 pm

Redskins linebacker lauds Gibbs for choosing hard-hitting Miami safety

Move over, Clinton Portis. Sean Taylor, the newest Washington Redskin, has another fan: LaVar Arrington.

Arrington was the first and only player to congratulate Taylor after the team introduced its No. 5 overall choice of the 2004 draft yesterday at Redskins Park.

Rest of Story....
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl- ... orts-front

hkHog · Post by **hkHog** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:19 pm

Nice, thanks for bringing this to my attention

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:22 pm

Can't wait till they start meeting at the QB :lol:

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:16 pm

Arrington was on a number of the news broadcasts last night. He looked really happy and had great things to say about Taylor. ("I've NEVER seen a safety that big before!")

I hope this brings Lavar back around and the two a part of an awesome defense this fall.

skins fan in indiana · Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:21 pm

Mr Taylor meet Mr Arrington....
NFL QB's meet Mr Taylor and Mr Arrington

You will come to know them both very well

PS - Mr Eli meet the the entire Redskins defense

Champsturf · Post by **Champsturf** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:07 pm

Great article Ant...Thnx

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:44 pm

I guess Lavar was looking for someone athletic enough to match his "Lavar leap" on the other side of the line. I'm not crazy about Lavar anymore, but I guess it's good that he's taken a liking to the kid.

posse · Post by **posse** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:01 pm

how can you NOT be crazy about Lavar??? His deplorable agents aside, I've grown to like the guy on and off the field a lot.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:12 pm

I guess you're right. I mean how can you NOT like all the missed tackles, the ridiculous sound bites, the missed assignments, the personal fouls, and his "protest" against the media. Aside from the good year he had under Marvin Lewis, the interception that turned salvaged us from a losing season, and the hit that knocked Aikman into retirement, he's done not much of anything that has benefitted the TEAM and not himself.

BTW- I'm glad you asked, since I had to make my 100th post memorable (to me). Lavar is one bad year away from being a bust IMO. And an overpaid one, at that.

oafusp · Post by **oafusp** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:21 pm

RED(EEMED)SKIN wrote:I guess you're right. I mean how can you NOT like all the missed tackles, the ridiculous sound bites, the missed assignments, the personal fouls, and his "protest" against the media. Aside from the good year he had under Marvin Lewis, the interception that turned salvaged us from a losing season, and the hit that knocked Aikman into retirement, he's done not much of anything that has benefitted the TEAM and not himself.

BTW- I'm glad you asked, since I had to make my 100th post memorable (to me). Lavar is one bad year away from being a bust IMO. And an overpaid one, at that.

Don't sound like you are 100% Redeemed?
For me, I am 100% behind them in the good times and bad.

One year away from a bust? A 3 time ProBowler?
Laughable!

Protest against the media? I think I see Lavar on every sports show, interview. He has a weekly interview on WTEM and was a guest host on ESPN's Dream Job.

Missed tackles? I could swear Lavar led the team in tackling..I think he ties Armstead in 2002 and he was tops in 2003...I mean how did he get voted to 3 Pro Bowls?

How many games has he missed?

Oh!!! I get, you were being sarcastic. Funny guy.
-burp

Insano Hog · Post by **Insano Hog** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:26 pm

umm yeah while Lavar's play maybe hasn't been stellar at all times, you can't even begin to say that Lavar isn't one of the best LB in the game right now, and obviously that wouldn't exactly make sense for a player like that to be on the verge of a bust.

skinsfaninroanoke · Post by **skinsfaninroanoke** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 7:03 pm

I think Williams will use him right, LA will cooperate and not go rogue and we will see a return to the level of performance we saw him at under Lewis - potentially better with Washington and Barrow as well as Taylor...

Remember how Dallas blitzed the crap out of us from all directions, or NE in the preseason game? That is probably what our defense is going to look like this year...

I do feel sorry for quarterbacks... waitaminute... no I don't

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:49 am

oafusp wrote:
RED(EEMED)SKIN wrote:I guess you're right. I mean how can you NOT like all the missed tackles, the ridiculous sound bites, the missed assignments, the personal fouls, and his "protest" against the media. Aside from the good year he had under Marvin Lewis, the interception that turned salvaged us from a losing season, and the hit that knocked Aikman into retirement, he's done not much of anything that has benefitted the TEAM and not himself.

BTW- I'm glad you asked, since I had to make my 100th post memorable (to me). Lavar is one bad year away from being a bust IMO. And an overpaid one, at that.

Don't sound like you are 100% Redeemed?
For me, I am 100% behind them in the good times and bad.

One year away from a bust? A 3 time ProBowler?
Laughable!

Protest against the media? I think I see Lavar on every sports show, interview. He has a weekly interview on WTEM and was a guest host on ESPN's Dream Job.

Missed tackles? I could swear Lavar led the team in tackling..I think he ties Armstead in 2002 and he was tops in 2003...I mean how did he get voted to 3 Pro Bowls?

How many games has he missed?

Oh!!! I get, you were being sarcastic. Funny guy.
-burp

Personal attacks on contributors to forum = not cool [-X

(as per forum rules).

I'm 100% behind the team as well $\:D/$ , which makes Lavar's actions deplorable and detrimental to the team, at times.

Yes, he shows flashes of greatness, a lot of highlight material, but hardly worthy of being placed among the elite at his position.

The Skins have had more productive LBs in the past at a smaller price tag.

I heard his interviews all season long on WTEM, which, by the way, is a PAID APPEARANCE (A LOT MORE THAN My 2 cents

FOR HIS APPEARANCE), much like the DREAM JOB gig. He is not "lending" himself to the people, but selling himself to the highest bidder (YEAH, I KNOW, FREE COUNTRY, FREE WILL, OWN MAN, etc.).

As for leading in tackles, I think our porous D-Line contributes to that number, not to mention his being all "over the field" as he jumps in on dogpiles and stuff.

If it were not for his popularity in this area, I think we would seriously begin to rethink throwing money at this guy the way Snyder has.

Anyone remember how Warren Sapp punked "big bad #56" last year? Remember Lavar "comin'out gunnin'", just to get fooled on a play twice?? What a joke.

On the positive side, I DO HOPE he makes a turnaround this year and becomes the player he was projected to be when we drafted him. Then he'd be MUCH more deserving of the accolades he receives from the media and fans alike. Let's go, SKINS!!!

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:53 am

skinsfaninroanoke wrote:I think Williams will use him right, LA will cooperate and not go rogue and we will see a return to the level of performance we saw him at under Lewis - potentially better with Washington and Barrow as well as Taylor...

Remember how Dallas blitzed the crap out of us from all directions, or NE in the preseason game? That is probably what our defense is going to look like this year...

I do feel sorry for quarterbacks... waitaminute... no I don't

Yes, this would be a nice scenario. Hopefully (à la OBC) we can see LA and the rest of the defense explode this year under the tutelage of Gregg Williams. It's about time we bring back the "Capital Defense". Y'all remember that? :celebrate:

gibbsfan · Post by **gibbsfan** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:20 am

that indeed was a great defense.yes i do remember and i,m ready to see the next version.richie p boy did his defenses get after people.

oafusp · Post by **oafusp** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:52 am

RED(EEMED)SKIN wrote:Personal attacks on contributors to forum = not cool (as per forum rules).

What? har, har, har

I disagree 100% with what you said. I am actually really shocked how down you are on Lavar. Is he playing to his potential? NO....Does he need to stop freelancing? YES
But it is proven that he is an elite LB in the league since he has been to 3 straight Pro Bowls, if you don't take my word on that then you can ask any professional sports guru and they will tell you that Lavar is right up there with the Spikes, Lewis, Brooks, etc.

I don't blame Lavar at all. The guy is a beast but has had a different defensive coach and scheme EVERY YEAR since he has been in the league. Now tell me 1 "Elite" LB that has played under those circumstances.

....i'm waiting.....

One thing I agree with you on is that we want Lavar and the defense to have a better year, but once again they have a new coach and a bunch of new players that need to jell quick.
..fingers are crossed.

trey53 · Post by **trey53** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:09 am

we bring back the "Capital Defense". Y'all remember that?

I still have the Capital Defense Poster! I'm a big D guy and I miss those days. Here's to a top five D and LA having a beast season!

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:11 pm

oafusp wrote:
RED(EEMED)SKIN wrote:I don't blame Lavar at all. The guy is a beast but has had a different defensive coach and scheme EVERY YEAR since he has been in the league. Now tell me 1 "Elite" LB that has played under those circumstances.

....i'm waiting.....

One thing I agree with you on is that we want Lavar and the defense to have a better year, but once again they have a new coach and a bunch of new players that need to jell quick.
..fingers are crossed.

I will say Lavar is quite popular, a big reason he's made it to the Pro Bowl 3 stright times. I will also grant you that he played under Spurrier for two years, Marty for one, and a myriad of other coaches. HOWEVER, so did Champ Bailey, a proven shut down corner, Fred Smoot, who has steadily improved and is now a locker room leader, and Ifheyani Ohalete, (likely to be cut) whose made a name for himself in the secondary. All these guys found a way to improve consistently (though Champ seemed to regress last year) yet it's too hard for Lavar.

Armstead, too was new to the team and had two different systems, no? How'd he do? Played well, but, due to the cap, is now a Panther(?).

I don't see why Lavar gets a free pass whenever he is criticized for his poor play and decision making. It boggles my mind. He IS a LARGER THAN LIFE figure for the SKINS, and YES, through the dry spell, he's been the most marketable Skin. But, I'm glad we are finally getting a solid coaching staff that will bring discipline to this squad.

DON'T GET ME WRONG, Lavar is A PHENOMENAL ATHLETE, but it's time to really buckle down and stop the blame game after each season. At one point Lavar, to me, was very exciting. But now, I just want him to be consistent, and not continuously attempt to be the "gambreaker" everyone says he. (though his antics HAVE broken up defensive stops with dumb penalties)

Let's go Lavar, it's game time baby! No more college coach, no more excuses! It's no longer about the Pro Bowl, it's about the Lombardi trophy and restoring the pride of the Redskins!

Thanks for the discussion, oafusp!

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:15 pm

trey53 wrote:
we bring back the "Capital Defense". Y'all remember that?

I still have the Capital Defense Poster! I'm a big D guy and I miss those days. Here's to a top five D and LA having a beast season!

For a minute I thought you were a covert Cowgirls operative :explode:

, but then I realized you were talking "defense" and not "dallas". Sorry.

I'm feeling the top 5 defense. All we need to do is bolster our d-line and we're set to meet at the Super Bowl.

Let's go D!!!

posse · Post by **posse** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:24 pm

Redeemed-

Arrington and Champ Bailey or Fred Smoot are not comparable situations. It doesn't matter if Gary Coleman is the coach... for CB's they have one job to do and that's cover the WR, period.

As an outside linebacker, Arrington has seen his role go from "roamer" when he entered the league, to "pass rusher" under Marvin Lewis, to "do whatever cuz we don't have a plan" last year. He is basically the QB of the defense back there and he simply has been thru too many coaches and teammates to really settle down and hone his craft.

You're right, he does take risks. But like Gregg Williams said about Taylor, we don't WANT to slow him down! He just needs a steady gameplan that doesn't ask too much of him and brings out his best abilities. I have a lot of faith that Williams' system (assuming it'll be around for 3-5 years) will make Arrington better than he has ever been, and will put him atop the linebackers in the NFL.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:09 pm

posse wrote: Arrington and Champ Bailey or Fred Smoot are not comparable situations. It doesn't matter if Gary Coleman is the coach... for CB's they have one job to do and that's cover the WR, period.

:lol: Good joke, posse.

He is basically the QB of the defense back there and he simply has been thru too many coaches and teammates to really settle down and hone his craft.

I thought that was the MLB's job to be the coach of the LBs.
Really, though, how simple must the plan be for Lavar to be more effective?

You're right though, he is now poised to be the best LB in the league, potentially. But, I doubt it will be for many years to come. His, and others', contracts may spell doom for the Skins'cap situation. For now, though, Lavar, keep bringin'it. redskinsmiley

posse · Post by **posse** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:28 pm

You're right, it's usually the MLB who's in charge.

Bring back Neil Olkewitz!!! (i know I probably misspelled that something fierce!)

trey53 · Post by **trey53** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:31 pm

For a minute I thought you were a covert Cowgirls operative , but then I realized you were talking "defense" and not "dallas". Sorry.

I'm feeling the top 5 defense. All we need to do is bolster our d-line and we're set to meet at the Super Bowl.

Let's go D!!!

If I ever refer to dallas with one letter it is always a lower case d.