skinsrule84 wrote:If you're a pessimist what's your purpose for even calling yourself a fan? If you want a surefire winner every damn year just go be a Patriots or Colts fan. It's really disgusting all the negativity I've seen around this forum the past few weeks. We as fans root for our team regardless. If we go 4-12 I'll be there watching every second. If we go 12-4 I'll be there watching every second. I am a fan through the thick or thin. I will cheer for my team and wish them the best. I'm never going to stop supporting my team because I am a true fan. Sure it doesn't look good so far, but isn't that why we're fans? To cheer on our team and support them with every move they make. So please, if you don't want to look on the bright side of things and just make comments on how horrible this team is going to be, then don't associate yourself with the Washington Redskins or our fan base. We don't want or need "fans" like you.
I never said I'd watch any fewer games (and I won't), or I'm any less of a fan (because I'm not) just because the Skins may not be good. I watched every one of their games and was just as much of a fan when they went 3-13 as I was when they won the SB. Just because I may be more realistic than some of the blindly optumistic fans doesn't make me any less of a fan.
grampi wrote:I may be more realistic than some of the blindly optumistic fans doesn't make me any less of a fan.
12-4 is optimistic
8-8 give or take with a new coach and new system is realistic
4-12 for a team that made the playoffs last year and has a lot of talent is PESSIMISTIC
That's the point. You're not saying people thinking playoffs are in a serious stretch now, you're saying a team with a good D and a lot of talent on O absolutely SUCKS. That's the point, what kind of a "fan" runs down their team? I'm not saying you're not a fan, just trying to keep you on track as to the point.
Hail to the Redskins!
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KazooSkinsFan wrote:Everyone does and says idiotic things and only most people are idiots, so there is clearly a delta even if to your point it's highly correlated. Still, room for doubt...
Is this the riddle of the Sphinx?
How can there possibly be an orderly connection of two divergent points?
For that matter, what are the two divergent points?
I understand the room for doubting anyone will agree with a 4-12 record.
BossHog wrote:No Betts, no Cartwright... so I guess if your contention is that if we lose our top 3 RBs, we're in trouble, you won't get any argument from me.
Mason has looked better than Cartwright this preseason. But yeah, any team would likely be in trouble if they lost their two top running backs.
skinsrule84 wrote:If you're a pessimist what's your purpose for even calling yourself a fan? If you want a surefire winner every damn year just go be a Patriots or Colts fan. It's really disgusting all the negativity I've seen around this forum the past few weeks. We as fans root for our team regardless. If we go 4-12 I'll be there watching every second. If we go 12-4 I'll be there watching every second. I am a fan through the thick or thin. I will cheer for my team and wish them the best. I'm never going to stop supporting my team because I am a true fan. Sure it doesn't look good so far, but isn't that why we're fans? To cheer on our team and support them with every move they make. So please, if you don't want to look on the bright side of things and just make comments on how horrible this team is going to be, then don't associate yourself with the Washington Redskins or our fan base. We don't want or need "fans" like you.
THANK YOU!!! No one is saying were going to be freaking awesome! We are just saying that we dont absolutley suck like a 4-12 record would say. We especially dont think we suck when we have not even played a dang game yet!
....for saying the Panthers game was a prelude to how the regular season is going to look. How many of you are with me now when I say this team will be lucky to go 4-12? This team is absolutely pathetic.
I remember that these players won through to the playoffs last year, even with Jason Campbell hurt.
Still too early to tell what kind of record the Redskins will end up with. 4-12 is as possible as 12-4 right now because they haven't played a single down that counts yet.
I'm not saying ownership isn't trying to win, but some of the moves with personnel and coaches haven't worked out. I don't want to think that the Redskins can't win another championship, but, well intended or not, ownerships decisions seem to be making it harder and harder to win. Given the recent track record, it does make it more difficult to be SUPER opimistic. I still have high hopes and I'm definitely pulling for the ant to move that rubber tree plant.
If you're mad at your kid, you can either raise him to be a nose tackle or send him out to play on the freeway. It's about the same. ~Bob Golic
grampi wrote:....for saying the Panthers game was a prelude to how the regular season is going to look. How many of you are with me now when I say this team will be lucky to go 4-12? This team is absolutely pathetic.
betcha' wish you had this moment back.......
People may not remember exactly what you did
or what you said....
~BUT~
they will ALWAYS remember how you made them feel.
grampi wrote:....for saying the Panthers game was a prelude to how the regular season is going to look. How many of you are with me now when I say this team will be lucky to go 4-12? This team is absolutely pathetic.
betcha' wish you had this moment back.......
Nah, I bet not. Its how the pessimists roll:
1. If the team loses....they say: "See I was right"
....for saying the Panthers game was a prelude to how the regular season is going to look. How many of you are with me now when I say this team will be lucky to go 4-12? This team is absolutely pathetic.
Yes we did make fun of you... and rightly so it would seem.
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